farmlad wrote:Taking into account the inaction of the Broward County police, the lack of witness accounts coming out, and the bias of the media, it seems quite likely that there is far more to this story and a good chance that there were more shooters involved.
Ibon wrote:I am challenging all of you not just Cog.
Is this site capable of intelligent well reasoned compromised dialogue considering the comoplexity of the issue.
Ibon wrote:I have had dozens of guests this past week and have enjoyed the reasoned dialogue that sitting with folks face to face engenders.
dissident wrote:That is an interesting story. But really has nothing to offer as a solution. Nutjobs will always be around. The issue is why they can bring automatic and semi-automatic rifles onto school grounds. This is a gross failure of the system to impose minimum security standards. Instead of crying rivers of fake tears, the media and the rest of the "community" can make sure that schools have gun control checkpoints and that no student or random clown off the street can enter the building and school grounds fully loaded.
onlooker wrote:dissident wrote:That is an interesting story. But really has nothing to offer as a solution. Nutjobs will always be around. The issue is why they can bring automatic and semi-automatic rifles onto school grounds. This is a gross failure of the system to impose minimum security standards. Instead of crying rivers of fake tears, the media and the rest of the "community" can make sure that schools have gun control checkpoints and that no student or random clown off the street can enter the building and school grounds fully loaded.
But , now Dissident actually our President is proposing that teachers carry guns.
I agree the cat is out of the bag, guns are pretty ubiquitous that is not going to change. But, we need to tone down the specter of violence and set examples of compromise and passivity. Because, we are not just talking about mad criminally insane people, but also people who for whatever reason lose their tempier and cannot control themselves from committing violence with a very accessible and very easy to use lethal instrument which is a gun or any other potential weapon available. Just step back and look, we are descending into the Wild West. And allowing the culture of violence and aggression to overcome our more civilized and passive postures. So, people will just attack people and even perhaps out of a feeling of vulnerability and excessive defensiveness. All product of a violence inducing culture.
Newfie wrote:Cog,
I didn’t hear anyone in the past few posts attack your right to own. Relax a wee bit.
Philadelphia high schools have had security checks/scanners for many years. I’m pretty sure that is “normal” in big city schools. It would be interesting to see how many districts already have this. These were instituted because of students carrying handguns but obviously work for assault weapons as well.
Am I correct is assuming all these school mass shootings occur in suburban schools only?
Would it be fair to say this is an issue the cities have dealt with already?
I detest the idea that our kids need metal detectors to enter school, but it seems the case.
Newfie wrote:Think about this, the single largest reason for commercial airline related death is pilot suicide where they take the passengers with them.
dissident wrote: Instead of crying rivers of fake tears, the media and the rest of the "community" can make sure that schools have gun control checkpoints and that no student or random clown off the street can enter the building and school grounds fully loaded.
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