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“Collapse Of Civilisation Is On The Horizon” World Leaders Warned

Enviroment

– “Time is running out” – Sir David Attenborough
Continuation of civilisation is in your hands,” Attenborough warns world leaders
– Mass extinction is “on the horizon”
– Failure to ‘join the dots’ between environmental risks and significant economic challenges

(Editors note: The world faces some very serious ecological challenges due to the pollution, destruction and over consumption of our natural resources. What we find quite bizarre is the complete cognitive dissonance between the increasingly alarming warnings of absolute environmental Armageddon and the complete complacency of investors and market participants.

There is a complete failure to ‘join the dots’ between environmental challenges of today and how they may impact our economies and global markets.

The notion that our global economy and financial markets including frothy risk assets such as stock and bond markets would not be impacted by “civilisation collapse” is irrational and complacent in the extreme. Our economies and markets are dependent on our planet. If civilisation collapses then so will companies, governments and economies and the markets which are all a subset of our civilisation and our planet.

Whether the severe environmental challenges of today will result in the complete collapse of civilisation is yet to be determined. We hope and believe that humanity will step back from the brink. 

However, it would be prudent for people to take stock of the risks, take a long term view and diversify into physical gold and silver. Both have protected people from societal and economic collapse throughout history.

Precious metals in coin and bar form (taken insured delivery of or in allocated and segregated storage) remain vital forms of financial insurance and hedges against various worst case scenarios such as financial and currency crashes, global pandemics, world wars, natural disasters such as earthquakes, super volcanoes and ecological disasters.

“Collapse Of Civilisation Is On The Horizon” – Attenborough Warns

The world faces a “disaster of global scale” that poses the greatest threat to civilization and the natural world for thousands of years, Sir David Attenborough warned yesterday.

The broadcaster and environmentalist, 92, spoke ominously about his view on the catastrophic effects of climate change at a United Nations summit in Poland.

Attenborough, who is famous for his amazing nature programmes, urged world leaders at the UN conference to “take action” to prevent the “collapse of civilisation.”

“Right now we are facing a manmade disaster of global scale, our greatest threat in thousands of years: climate change,” he warned in a speech at the two-week climate conference in Poland.

“If we don’t take action, the collapse of our civilisations and the extinction of much of the natural world is on the horizon.”

GoldCore, Zerohedge



162 Comments on "“Collapse Of Civilisation Is On The Horizon” World Leaders Warned"

  1. Outcast_Searcher on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 12:57 pm 

    As though, aside from the denialist crowd, this is anything new. “On the horizon” doesn’t mean “now”, it means many decades (or even a century or three) out.

    But of course, for the likes of the constantly panicking and badly predicting zerohedge, anything negative is what they publish — even if there is nothing new to say.

    By the way, I’m a climate alarmist and believe a FF tax on transpo fuels, quickly escalating to an equivalent of $20 a gallon would be the way to rapidly accelerate the shift to EV’s and slow the madness.

    But of course, you can’t get even US liberals (See Washington State) to vote for a TINY CO2 tax, so good luck with getting anything more done than the “kick the can” approach of the Paris Climate Accords.

  2. Frankie on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 2:01 pm 

    Speaking of bizzare and complete cognitive dissonance…….see above post by outcast.

    “On the horizon” doesn’t mean “now”, it means many decades (or even a century or three) out. By the way, I’m a climate alarmist.”

  3. I AM THE MOB on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 2:05 pm 

    Outcast

    The collapse will happen within the next decade..

    Simple really….when the World Economy Collapses everything shuts down…the end… We’re talking about grids down all over the world and 7.5B people dropping like f*** flies in short order. The collapse will be absolutely horrible..There is no collapse or horror movie ever produced that has even come close to imagining what the collapse of BAU might look like. I’m talking about every corporation and every social program going bankrupt at once. I’m talking about people eating people. I’m talking about the Worst Catastrophe to ever happen in the history of mankind. Nothing has ever, or will ever come close…(Meadows, 1972) (Motesharrei, 2014) (Turchin, 2010) (Ehrlich, 2013) (Turner, 2014) (Korowicz, 2012)

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/apocalypse-soon-has-civilization-passed-the-environmental-point-of-no-return/
    https://www.nature.com/articles/463608a
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800914000615
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3574335/
    https://www.scribd.com/document/379418787/Is-Global-Collapse-Imminent-An-Updated-Comparison-of-The-Limits-to-Growth-with-Historical-Data-Turner-2014
    http://www.feasta.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Trade-Off1.pdf

    Peak Oil & Drastic Oil Shortages Imminent, Says IEA
    https://cleantechnica.com/2018/11/22/peak-oil-drastic-oil-shortages-imminent-says-iea/

  4. I AM THE MOB on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 2:06 pm 

    Frankie

    In rearguards to outcast’s word salad..

    Humans can not live without illusions. For the men and woman of today, an irrational faith in progress may be the only antidote to nihilism. Without the hope that the future will be better than the past they could not go on.

    -John N Gray

  5. Uncle Bill on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 2:07 pm 

    If you’re over 50, don’t worry, you lived your life for the most part….others sorry but party hardy like it’s 2020

  6. I AM THE MOB on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 2:17 pm 

    Outcast

    IEA Chief warns of world oil shortages by 2020 as discoveries fall to record lows
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000

    There will be an oil shortage in the 2020’s, Goldman Sachs says
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/09/goldman-sachs-there-will-be-an-oil-shortage-in-the-2020s.html

    Growing demand for oil will lead to shortage and high prices in 2020s
    https://www.newscientist.com/article/2185046-growing-demand-for-oil-will-lead-to-shortage-and-high-prices-in-2020s/

    German Military (leaked) Peak Oil study: oil is used in the production of 95% of all industrial goods, so a shortage of oil would collapse the world economy & world governments
    https://www.scribd.com/document/387459134/german

    Imminent peak oil could burst US, global economic bubble – study
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/nov/19/peak-oil-economicgrowth

  7. onlooker on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 2:37 pm 

    We have 7 plus billion people and counting depleting and degrading the Earth’s Environment and it’s resources, so this goes beyond the mode of our existence this is about our very existence as a species

  8. Davy on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 3:52 pm 

    I see this playing out over decades not years although the party is over. Prosperity will be declining from here on out. The changes are going to start coming at us fast and hard only to worsen down the road. I am sure glad I don’t live in Miami Beach or Manilla.

  9. I Am Bob the Cog on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 4:20 pm 

    The world has been coming to an end for the past several centuries, even millenia. Face it, nothing gets people excited as much as doom and apocalypse. Who cares how it’s coming, it’s coming!!! If it takes another 10,000 years to come, you’d better be ready to say I was right all along! heh heh

  10. makati1 on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 4:57 pm 

    Onlooker, yes we have that many, but most of the “depleting” is being done by less than one billion, the West. Collapse the system and buy more time for the planet and us. The biggest die-off would be in the developed world that relies on JIT deliveries of everything, including necessities. Billions in the rest of the world would not notice the loss.

  11. Davy on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 5:00 pm 

    “Billions in the rest of the world would not notice the loss.”

    Your billions will starve within a month.

  12. makati1 on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 5:01 pm 

    Timeline?

    If it remains BAU, maybe 10 years, plus or minus until the human die-off is significant.
    If globalization occurs soon, maybe more time, but definitely before 2100.
    If the US keeps trying to start a major war and succeeds, game over.

  13. makati1 on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 5:09 pm 

    Davy, you keep sucking down that imperial koolaid. Maybe you need rehab? Most non-Western countries could manage without globalization of trade. After all, they did for thousands of years. It is the JIT delivery countries…notably the US/EU/Japan… that will fail big time. But, you will believe what you are told to believe by your masters. So be it.

    If the shelves were empty tomorrow, what would happen in the US? Starvation. Few have more than enough groceries on hand to last more than a week. Some only days. Ditto for life saving drugs (insulin,etc.), etc. When the SHTF, no one knows the extent of the damages it will cause, but logic says that the higher on the ladder, the harder the fall. SPLAT!

  14. Davy on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 5:29 pm 

    “Most non-Western countries could manage without globalization of trade.”

    Clueless billy, first of all aren’t you generalizing bigtime? This is a big world maybe too big for your little mind. Much of your DM world needs food and energy to survive. Many of your DM nations are way into population overshoot. If you noticed I didn’t argue that the western world does not face issues. I accept that. You on the other hand are going one-sided and stupid just because you have this sick turd world agenda to uphold.

  15. onlooker on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 5:48 pm 

    Arable land per capita. Not true Makati
    See this chart and see India and China and even PHIL how little arable land per capita they have. The US on the other hand is way up there on the list.
    Then this :The minimum amount of agricultural land necessary for sustainable food security, with a diversified diet similar to those of North America and Western Europe (hence including meat), is 0.5 of a hectare per person. This does not allow for any land degradation such as soil erosion, and it assumes adequate water supplies. Very few populous countries have more than an average of 0.25 of a hectare. It is realistic to suppose that the absolute minimum of arable land to support one person is a mere 0.07 of a hectare–and this assumes a largely vegetarian diet, no land degradation or water shortages, virtually no post-harvest waste, and farmers who know precisely when and how to plant, fertilize, irrigate, 

    https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Agriculture/Arable-land/Hectares-per-capita

  16. onlooker on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 5:53 pm 

    We know much of the world”s land is degraded and fresh water is a problem for large parts of Asia, Africa and Middle East

  17. onlooker on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 5:55 pm 

    Fresh Water is critical for agriculture

  18. makati1 on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 6:04 pm 

    onlooker, where did I mention “arable land? Does that matter? If you can live on a bowl of rice and some fish/chicken, how much land does that take? Come and see how it really is in Asia.

    You have no idea because you don’t think in small terms, it seems. Sure, pork, beef and the like will disappear. Humans will eat the grains used to feed meat animals. Did you know that if we stopped eating beef, there would be enough grains to feed more than a billion people?

    I live in the PS and can tell you that there is at least twice as much unused “arable” land available as is currently used. I am not talking level, plow-able fields, that is western farming. I am talking about a permaculture type of farming used here. Our front yard is a sweet potato patch shaded by banana and mango trees. There is also cassava and other native edibles scattered around the yard.

    I would suggest that Americans stop listening to their master’s voice and do some real research and original thinking before swallowing the bullshit. Americans want to believe that others will suffer more than they will out of pure arrogance, not fact.

  19. Davy on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 6:08 pm 

    PS HAS 100MIL people in the space of Arizona….nuffffff said lol

  20. onlooker on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 6:22 pm 

    Makati, do you know that the land of Africa is being bought up by rich countries and corporations. You should know that this is a might makes right world. China as we speak is spreading its tentacles all over the planet especially in its own neighborhood. Do you want to know why the WORLD ECONOMY is still standing and makes money out of nothing. Because the the game is rigged and the rich and powerful make the rules. The elite of PHIL would sell out the masses of PHIL in a heartbeat. And as for your permaculture, the third world has been into the Green Revolution for decades and its only gotten worse with Globalization and mega food multinationals Plus as we speak the Aquifers and wells are fast depleting because of the excess population of Asia. You cannot get around overpopulation, it is the principal way that us humans are in overshoot

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Revolution

  21. makati1 on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 7:45 pm 

    Epidemic of insanity in America: “To a Nation of Snowflakes, Christmas Has Become Another Trigger Word”

    “When I was a child in the 1950s, the magic of Christmas was promoted in the schools….Fast forward to the present day, and there is a phobia surrounding Christmas that has turned it into fodder for the politically correct culture wars….it is part and parcel of the greater trend in recent years to whittle away at free speech and trample the First Amendment underfoot….

    This is censorship, driven by a politically correct need to pander to those who are easily offended….Unfortunately, all too often it is common sense and individual liberty that get trampled underfoot…

    Zero tolerance policies are ultimately about programming people into compliance with the government’s dictates. The government doesn’t care about Christmas. It cares about control…. “we the people” have stopped thinking for ourselves and relinquished responsibility for our lives and well-being to a government entity that sees us only as useful idiots….

    Never forget, the police state wants us to be a nation of snowflakes, snitches and book burners: a legalistic, intolerant, elitist, squealing bystander nation willing to turn on each other and turn each other in for the slightest offense….

    “We’re developing a new citizenry. One that will be very selective about cereals and automobiles, but won’t be able to think.” – Rod Sterling

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2018/12/04/to-a-nation-of-snowflakes-christmas-has-become-another-trigger-word/#more-187968

    Slip slidin’…

  22. makati1 on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 8:00 pm 

    onlooker, after the SHTF, ownership will mean little or nothing. If the ability to ship huge amounts of stuff becomes very expensive or impossible, global trade will shut down. Countries will subsist on what they can produce themselves or do without. I don’t see China disappearing because some American writer think it will out of arrogance.

    China has been China for about 5,000 years and will continue to be China until there are no humans left. Ditto for most non-western countries, including the Philippines. China plans decades ahead. They are not stupid like Americans.

    You need to look at what necessities the US has to import to survive, then rethink your failure scenario. Do you know that the Us has to import over 20% of its food? About 1/3 or more of its energy needs? Most of its medicines? The list is long and most Americans have no idea. They think it will all magically appear on the store shelves. They exported the means to be “self sufficient” decades ago and it is not coming back.

    http://www.worldstopexports.com/united-states-top-10-imports/
    https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-imports-and-exports-components-and-statistics-3306270

  23. makati1 on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 8:11 pm 

    Davy, your ignorance is blatant. 100,000,000+ people manage just fine already and use very little oil/NG to do so. Why do you think that a collapsing world trade is going to change that? Sure, the cities will thin out, but the Ps does not depend only on oil and NG for electric or power. It has wind, geothermal and hydro also, not to mention NG fields. Diesel can be replaced with palm oil if necessary. The fishing fleet can go back to sail if necessary. And on and on.

    Much as you want the Ps and Asia to go down hard, you are going to be disappointed. Better look around at the thin support under your own lifestyle and not try to point a crooked, hypocritical finger at others.

  24. Davy on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 8:12 pm 

    makati1 has made some very good points onlooker.

  25. Free Speech Message Board on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 8:12 pm 

    When the shit hits the fan, some say the US will have a Civil War between the Nazis and the Commies or a race war, but one hopes that the 99% wakes up instead and unites against the elites who are the real enemy.

  26. onlooker on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 8:19 pm 

    Makati when TSHTF, then as you admit no more trade you have to live within the environmental constraints. Problem is Asia, Africa and Middle East are vastly overpopulated related to key resources like arable land, potable water and they face an increasingly hostile and unpredictable climate regime. The masses of these places will burn what remains of the forest and timber for cooking and warmth/ shelter. Then the crop fields will lose their top soil to wind and water erosion and it will rain less and drought and wildfires will become the new normal as well as barren desertification landscape. The fresh water us running out, it will not be replenished fast enough to be of avail for AG.

  27. onlooker on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 8:20 pm 

    Agreeing with you Davy

  28. makati1 on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 9:02 pm 

    Onlooker, how do YOU know they are “overpopulated”? Government propaganda? I will agree that the ME is desert and survives on imports for oil, but Africa and Asia are not desolate sand. Have you also considered that “arable land” is different in different places? In the US it is mostly a one crop per year climate whereas, here it is year round with 2-3 crops on average. That more than doubles the growing area. Don’t compare apples and carrots as equal.

    Perhaps if the US/West stopped meddling and destroying in Africa and Asia, they would be self sufficient? Do you consider that the West has plundered Asia and Africa for at least 500 years?

    I guess you are discounting the droughts, fires and floods in the US? They are not getting worse? California is going back into desert. With it goes at least 20% of the US food supply. Not to mention the Mid-West where it is drying out and weather abnormalities put crops in danger of failure more every year? Climate change is not just happening in other countries. Look around.

  29. makati1 on Tue, 4th Dec 2018 10:53 pm 

    “Agricultural land takes up about a fifth of the country….the actual land area used to grow the food Americans eat is much smaller—only about the size of Indiana, Illinois and half of Iowa combined.”

    That is about 310,000 sqkm or about 1 million people per 1,000 sqkm of ag land.

    The Philippines has about 108,000 sqkm or about 1 million people per sqkm. Same as the US. Now, double the crops per sqkm, due to climate, and you get a country in much better shape than the US.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_use_statistics_by_country
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_area
    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-us-land-use/?srnd=premium-asia

    “While the U.S. benefits from an overall agricultural trade surplus, Americans imported 15 percent of their food and beverage products in 2016. More than 30 percent of the fresh fruits and vegetables Americans consume come from other countries, predominantly Mexico and Canada.”

    More will be imported as California dries up. American food security? LMAO!

  30. makati1 on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 3:25 am 

    “America and Britain Complicit in Saudi Acts of Genocide in Yemen: 85,000 Children Dead, 14 Million at “Risk of Starvation””

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-uk-complicit-saudi-acts-genocide-yemen/5661830

    America, the land of the baby killers. Nuff said.

  31. Dirty Juan on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 4:50 am 

    onlooker, LOL, you believed I was Davy. I am the greatest of deceptionist. I even fool my friends.

  32. Cloggie on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 4:52 am 

    Yabut makati, don’t ya know that globalresearch is an.ti.a.mur.ri.can?

    /davy-mode

  33. Cloggie on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 4:59 am 

    “When the shit hits the fan, some say the US will have a Civil War between the Nazis and the Commies or a race war, but one hopes that the 99% wakes up instead and unites against the elites who are the real enemy.”

    There is a slight chance that CW2 can be avoided if what happened to the Reps will happen to the Dems as well and a non-certified candidate hijacks the party.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard

    https://medium.com/@MPMagayon/the-incomparable-tulsi-gabbard-and-her-inevitable-rise-to-world-prominence-part-one-3cab2615eba3

  34. Cloggie on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 5:04 am 

    …cancel empire, devolute and restyle America in a sort of post-Soviet GIS of semi-independent states and ALL troops brought home and put all neocons on some train to the East.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Independent_States

  35. Davy on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 5:12 am 

    “Onlooker, how do YOU know they are “overpopulated”? Government propaganda?
    LMFAO, billy, you do realize there is something called science? You are pissing on yourself.

    “Have you also considered that “arable land” is different in different places? In the US it is mostly a one crop per year climate whereas, here it is year round with 2-3 crops on average. That more than doubles the growing area. Don’t compare apples and carrots as equal.”
    Billy you import food and fuel into the P’s. Your fisheries and forest are in localized failure. Erosion is getting worse by the year. There is salt water intrusions into your aquifers near large cities. Population is one of your biggest demons. The P’s is a mess like everywhere else but on steroids because of overpopulation. You are so far into la la land with your agenda it is hilarious.

    “I guess you are discounting the droughts, fires and floods in the US?”
    Billy onlooker is not saying the US does not have its share of problems the point he is making is the third world will have starvation when SHTF because of overpopulation. You can’t argue away science with emotions. When you are losing the argument you start changing the topic.

    “Agricultural land takes up about a fifth of the country….the actual land area used to grow the food Americans eat is much smaller—only about the size of Indiana, Illinois and half of Iowa combined.”
    BS, billy, that does not include grazing and fisheries. That concerns grains.

    “That is about 310,000 sqkm or about 1 million people per 1,000 sqkm of ag land. The Philippines has about 108,000 sqkm or about 1 million people per sqkm. Same as the US. Now, double the crops per sqkm, due to climate, and you get a country in much better shape than the US.”
    LMFAO at the old man’s math and reasoning. He is in la la land. Billy, the P’s imports food and fuel. What part of reality do you not understand? The US imports luxury foods. It is a global food exporter. Get a grip. Plus, billy your country is the double the size of my insignificant state with 16 times the populations but a similar GDP. Are you going to call that propaganda? If so what are your 2 wiki and a Bloomberg references? You call wiki and Bloomberg propaganda unless you are using it.

    “While the U.S. benefits from an overall agricultural trade surplus, Americans imported 15 percent of their food and beverage products in 2016. More than 30 percent of the fresh fruits and vegetables Americans consume come from other countries, predominantly Mexico and Canada.”
    AH, billy, did you see trade surplus and do you realize Americans will be able to fee d themselves easier than any country in Asia. It will not be easy because of economics of location and urbanization but the economics will depend on the type of shit hitting the fan. You in Asia are greatly disadvantaged if your food import stop.

  36. Davy on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 5:14 am 

    “Yabut makati, don’t ya know that globalresearch is an.ti.a.mur.ri.can? /davy-mode”

    You mean nutter and extremist.

  37. Davy on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 5:15 am 

    “There is a slight chance that CW2 can be avoided if what happened to the Reps will happen to the Dems as well and a non-certified candidate hijacks the party.”

    Listen to the anti-American neder nazi whine about the US when his continent burns with problems. LMFAO

  38. Davy on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 5:17 am 

    “cancel empire, devolute and restyle America in a sort of post-Soviet GIS of semi-independent states and ALL troops brought home and put all neocons on some train to the East.”

    How about look at what is happening to your Eurotardland as we speak. Hint, it ain’t PBM fantasies. LOL

  39. JuanP on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 5:38 am 

    RUSSIA, CHINA, NORTH KOREA, CUBA, IRAN YA YA YA. LONG LIVE THEM. DOWN WITH THE US. I HATE AMERICANS

    Exceptionalist it is a new day and I will harass you constantly today.

  40. Davy on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 5:40 am 

    JuanPee, you do realize there are others who post here and visit? You loser, you can’t stand the fact I have kicked your ass with reason and debate. LOSER. cheerlead that up your ass.

  41. Davy on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 6:27 am 

    Billy some good science for you to catch up on. LOL

    Food Security & Nutrition around the World
    https://tinyurl.com/y9tutdr6

    For the third year in a row, there has been a rise in world hunger. The absolute number of undernourished people, i.e. those facing chronic food deprivation, has increased to nearly 821 million in 2017, from around 804 million in 2016. These are levels from almost a decade ago.

    The situation is worsening in South America and most regions of Africa (Table 1). Africa remains the continent with the highest PoU, affecting almost 21 percent of the population (more than 256 million people). The situation is also deteriorating in South America, where the PoU has increased from 4.7 percent in 2014 to a projected 5.0 percent in 2017. Asia’s decreasing trend in undernourishment seems to be slowing down significantly. The projected PoU for Asia in 2017 is 11.4 percent, which represents more than 515 million people. Without increased efforts, the world will fall far short of achieving the SDG target of eradicating hunger by 2030.

  42. Davy on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 6:34 am 

    Billy, if you won’t read the science then check these graphs out:

    “Shocking Maps Show How Humans Have Reshaped Earth Since 1992”
    https://tinyurl.com/y7mjwwcv

    “Generated from satellite data, the maps track losses and gains of land used for agriculture, forests, urbanization, and more.”
    https://tinyurl.com/yc3ae5vg
    https://tinyurl.com/y7mye7ua
    https://tinyurl.com/ybjzjhdq

  43. Fred Magyar on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 7:12 am 

    What more than a few of the commenters here seem to have failed to grasp is the universal truth that the entire global economy and the civilization it supports is a subsidiary of Ecosystems Inc..
    Right now the data is in. Ecosystems such as coral reefs are already pretty much doomed. A lot of fish depend on them. Insect biomass the world over has disappeared at alarming rates. That is a food source for all kinds of vertebrates and are part of all the food webs. Humans are in deep ecological overshoot in every corner of the globe. The sixth mass extinction is well underway. We are faced with climate change and ocean acidification and are still adding about 80 million humans to the planet every year and people here are worried about economic collapse?! Perhaps a reality check is in order…
    Cheers!

  44. Эй, братья, пожалуйста, ударьте антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранитного форума on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 8:24 am 

    RUSSIA, CHINA, NORTH KOREA, CUBA, IRAN YA YA YA. LONG LIVE THEM. DOWN WITH THE US. I HATE AMERICANS

    supertard obv.

  45. Эй, братья, пожалуйста, ударьте антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранитного форума on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 8:35 am 

    Aswange JuanPee obv

  46. Davy on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 9:04 am 

    I’m not fooling anybody with my sock pupeering. obv.

  47. Dirty Juan on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 9:32 am 

    That was me that took Davy’s handle above. I am a piece of shit

  48. Douglas McKee on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 10:06 am 

    No civilization has EVER survived because all have been based on competition. Competition rewards aggression so the most aggressive become leaders. Competition does not unite us. It isolates and separates us.
    Individual lives are the glue that holds civilizations together. When we thrive, they thrive. When we fail, they fail, and we are failing in record numbers.

  49. Davy on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 10:30 am 

    “No civilization has EVER survived because all have been based on competition.”

    That is in debate. I am reading a book now and it deals with the subject. It is widely believed human nature is based competition. We know this is the case with other primates but not so clear cut with humans depending on how we study the topic.

    “The Patterning Instinct: A Cultural History of Humanity’s Search for Meaning”
    By Jeremy Lent
    More info at: http://www.jeremylent.com

    “This fresh perspective on crucial questions of history identifies the root metaphors that cultures have used to construct meaning in their world. It offers a glimpse into the minds of a vast range of different peoples: early hunter-gatherers and farmers, ancient Egyptians, traditional Chinese sages, the founders of Christianity, trail-blazers of the Scientific Revolution, and those who constructed our modern consumer society. Taking the reader on an archaeological exploration of the mind, the author, an entrepreneur and sustainability leader, uses recent findings in cognitive science and systems theory to reveal the hidden layers of values that form today’s cultural norms. Uprooting the tired clichés of the science-religion debate, he shows how medieval Christian rationalism acted as an incubator for scientific thought, which in turn shaped our modern vision of the conquest of nature. The author probes our current crisis of unsustainability and argues that it is not an inevitable result of human nature, but is culturally driven: a product of particular mental patterns that could conceivably be reshaped. By shining a light on our possible futures, the book foresees a coming struggle between two contrasting views of humanity: one driving to a technological endgame of artificially enhanced humans, the other enabling a sustainable future arising from our intrinsic connectedness with each other and the natural world. This struggle, it concludes, is one in which each of us will play a role through the meaning we choose to forge from the lives we lead.”

  50. JuanP on Wed, 5th Dec 2018 12:52 pm 

    Nonsense!

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