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Furious China Shadows Two US Warships Sailing Through Disputed Waters, Warns Them To Leave

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China is again furious after the US sailed several warships through the heavily disputed waters in the South China Sea, military sources told Reuters.  The move by the US has escalated tensions between both countries, already tense as the latest round of trade talks have fallen apart, and the signing of the phase one trade deal has likely been delayed

The USS Gabrielle Giffords (LCS-10), an Independence-class littoral combat ship, on Wednesday sailed within 12 nautical miles of Mischief Reef, a militarized island in the South China Sea operated by China.

Then on Thursday, USS Wayne E. Meyer, an Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer, sailed through the Paracel islands in the South China Sea.

“These missions are based in the rule of law and demonstrate our commitment to upholding the rights, freedoms, and lawful uses of the sea and airspace guaranteed to all nations,” Commander Reann Mommsen, a spokeswoman for the US Navy’s Seventh Fleet, told Reuters.

China’s People’s Liberation Army shadowed the two US warships as they both transited through the disputed waters, and “warned them to leave.” China’s military warned the US has to stop sending warships near its militarized islands to “avoid the happening of any mishap.”

“The US has kept sending naval vessels to stir up trouble in the South China Sea under the pretext of freedom of navigation,” a statement from the Chinese military, with the Southern Theatre Command said. “We call on the US to stop such provocative acts to avoid the happening of any mishap.”

China’s Foreign Ministry Geng Shuang, at a press briefing on Friday, told reporters, “the US actions severely damage China’s sovereignty and safety, destroy the peace and stability in the South China Sea, and we express our resolute opposition.”

The US has increased freedom of navigation operations since the trade war began, attempting to counter China not just on economic fronts, but also on military ones. The latest freedom of navigation missions conducted by the US is coinciding with new reports this week, that the phase one trade deal between both countries has been delayed until 2020. The Trump administration is reportedly not willing to roll back tariffs for a deal that doesn’t include intellectual property and technology transfer. This has caused renewed anxieties between Washington and Beijing.

As trade wars continue to be unresolved, it’s becoming increasingly evident that military tensions between both countries are increasing as well.

Zero Hedge



169 Comments on "Furious China Shadows Two US Warships Sailing Through Disputed Waters, Warns Them To Leave"

  1. JuanP ID theft on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 5:12 am 

    this is mindless stupid but at least he is not doing creative muzzie writing or low IQ Davy ad-homs. JuanP is contributing an article so lets support the high school drop out. I am also proud of him that he follows my style of referencing articles. Good for you tiger!!

    Davy said “Thanksgiving Is Canceled” https://tinyurl.com/rkp

    Davy said “Stuffed? Woman Needs Her Ass Amputated After R…

  2. REAL Green on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 5:21 am 

    Symptoms of schizophrenia.

    DELUSIONS:

    These are false beliefs that are not based in reality. For example, you think that you’re being harmed or harassed; certain gestures or comments are directed at you; you have exceptional ability or fame; or a major catastrophe is about to occur. Delusions occur in most people with schizophrenia.

    DISORGANIZED THINKING:

    Effective communication can be impaired, and answers to questions may be partially or completely unrelated. Rarely, speech may include putting together meaningless words that can’t be understood, sometimes known as word salads.

    WHEN TO SEE A DOCTOR:

    People with schizophrenia often lack awareness that their difficulties stem from a mental disorder that requires medical attention. So it often falls to family or friends to get them help.

    If you think someone you know may have symptoms of schizophrenia, talk to him or her about your concerns.
    Although you can’t force someone to seek professional help, you can offer encouragement and support and help your loved one find a qualified doctor or mental health professional.

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/schizophrenia/symptoms-causes/syc-20354443

  3. REAL Green on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 5:25 am 

    “Solar Panels Produce Tons of Toxic Waste—Literally”
    https://tinyurl.com/w335lnv fee org

    “The fact that such endeavors would be unsustainable due to their size and the sheer amount of maintenance required or that the necessary infrastructure to bring this energy all around the world is simply unimaginable is irrelevant to those who dream of a solar future…This mirrors an answer given by Cara Libby, Senior Technical Leader of Solar Energy at the Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI), who admits that there is no lucrative amount of salvageable parts on any type of solar panel…t is no wonder that Chinese factories, when confronted with the exorbitant costs (both financial and environmental) of decomposing solar panel chemicals properly, prefer to release them into the environment rather than dispose of them in an environmentally safe manner…Question the Narrative Energy policy is not a place for emotion or action based on instinct. We throw around a lot of buzz words that lead us to the belief that one energy supply is “cleaner” than the other. The reality is that human action and interaction require a constant supply of energy. All forms of energy production have an impact on the environment. Questioning certain narratives regarding the eco-friendliness of those classified as “renewable” but do not live up to an environmental standard that reasonable people could support is essential to both innovation and environmental protection.”

  4. JuanP ID theft on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 5:29 am 

    Stupid is telling on himself. I have mentioned many times juanPee’s condition:

    “Schizoaffective disorder is a chronic mental health condition characterized primarily by symptoms of schizophrenia, such as hallucinations or delusions, and symptoms of a mood disorder, such as mania and depression.”
    https://tinyurl.com/y2682fpf

    this is mindless stupid:
    REAL Green said Symptoms of schizophrenia. DELUSIONS: These are fa…

  5. REAL Green on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 5:33 am 

    I care about you a lot Davy.

    We need to go see a doctor. Soon.

  6. REAL Green on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 5:36 am 

    “PV panel recycling a mountain of worry”
    https://tinyurl.com/sltwnpo eco generation

    “There is a mountain of preparation to be done to manage the recycling of millions of tonnes of solar PV modules over the decades ahead, writes GSES. The amount of PV modules which are to be decommissioned is anticipated to increase rapidly in the coming years as the early adopters of the solar boom begin to consider replacing their system for a new one. The challenge of dealing with components such as PV modules when they reach end-of-life will become a critical issue. Without proper policies and procedures in place most will end up in landfill, which poses a threat as some technologies contain toxic substances. The number of PV modules installed is rapidly increasing. A 2016 report by the International Renewable Energy Agency estimates that by 2050 there could be up to 78 million tonnes of waste from PV modules globally, with the potential for about $US15 billion of revenue from recycled materials. The IRENA report investigated two possible scenarios to forecast PV module waste: regular loss, which assumes a 30-year lifetime for panels, and early loss, which takes account of “infant”, “mid-life” and “wear-out” failures before a 30-year lifespan. Assuming a best-case scenario of regular loss, there will still be 60 million tonnes of waste globally by 2050 from PV modules alone. In comparison, about 67 million tonnes of all waste is generated each year in Australia.”

  7. JuanP ID theft on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 5:40 am 

    stupid (juanP) is telling on himself again. The self described chronically depressed and self described psychopathic personality is probably beyond help…oh well. JuanP if you feel postal go to Douglas gardens down the road from your condo in Miami Beach.
    http://www.dgcmhc.org/

    this is stupid:
    REAL Green said I care about you a lot Davy. We need to go see a d…

  8. Davy on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 5:40 am 

    This lame forum means way more to me then our menatal well being Green.

  9. REAL Green on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 5:45 am 

    If you think this forum is so lame Davy why do you make us spend all our time here?

  10. REAL Green on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 6:10 am 

    “The Cost of Decommissioning Wind Turbines is Huge”
    “Solar Panels Produce Tons of Toxic Waste—Literally”
    “PV panel recycling a mountain of worry”

    These articles I highlighted today on the end period of lifecycle costs of wind and solar are rarely referenced by FAKE Greens. These costs are going to become more and more significant. The same is true of the FAKE Green car culture of EV’s. REAL Green acknowledges this as FAKE Green but says we still need them and they are vital. What needs to change is behavior. There must be an effort to degrowth with lower consumption and acceptance of intermittency to accommodate the problems with full lifecycle costs of renewables. Embracing degrowth and intermittency means we would need much less of renewable build out and the process would prepare us for further decline. The REAL Green argument is behavior first followed by honest techno solutions this is further adapted by saying failure is ahead no matter what we do so plan and act accordingly.

    Renewables are path dependent and carbon trapped too but FAKE Greens dismiss this. Yet, renewables offer resilience and sustainability on the way down. They are an additional resource of decline adaptation. Properly employed renewables can make a local more sustainable and resilient to a decline process that ultimately ends in collapse. FAKE Greens have all kinds of arguments for renewables with green new deals that are just plain delusional if their behavior does not modify. REAL Green says this delusional behavior will not modify and can’t. FAKE Green renewable policy is carbon trapped and path dependent just like the rest of the energy complex. A REAL Green accepts this and says well at least they will get built out because we need more. REAL Green knows that economically this will end eventually as energy penetration obstacles brick wall the energy transformation. Cost are set to skyrocket at a time the global economy will begin a contraction.

    These FAKE Green delusions are all the ingredients of failure. REAL Green says look locally with techno solutions and behavioral changes in regards to this failure. This means you can incorporate renewables into your green doom and prep effort. The next 20 years will probably see a collapse of some sort. If you have a renewable component you will be better off. REAL Green looks past the false narratives of FAKE Greens and says “it is what it is” so how can we leverage this failed narrative? You leverage it by incorporating the tech into a REAL Green effort while it is cheap and available. Get with it because at any time a financial collapse might occur that will end the opportunity.

  11. JuanP ID theft on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 6:14 am 

    More stupid from the self describe obsessive compulsive. He can’t stop even if he wanted to. Again, JuanP, a good reason to check into Douglas gardens mental health clinic down the street from your condo. You probably walk by it daily and think of Davy’s advice when you do. You are sick and could at anytime go postal so check in before you check out.

    this is stupid:
    REAL Green said If you think this forum is so lame Davy why do you…

    Davy said This lame forum means way more to me then our mena…

  12. REAL Green on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 6:39 am 

    “Are electric vehicles really so climate friendly?”
    https://tinyurl.com/szlym6m the guardian

    “EVs produce more CO2 than say diesel – it’s just they emit via the power plant not the exhaust pipe…But the EU’s formula is nothing but a huge scam. Electric vehicles also emit substantial amounts of CO2, the only difference being that the exhaust is released at a remove – that is, at the power plant. As long as coal- or gas-fired power plants are needed to ensure energy supply during the “dark doldrums” when the wind is not blowing and the sun is not shining, EVs, like ICE vehicles, run partly on hydrocarbons. And even when they are charged with solar- or wind-generated energy, enormous amounts of fossil fuels are used to produce EV batteries in China and elsewhere, offsetting the supposed emissions reduction…in the context of Germany’s energy mix, an EV emits a bit more CO2 than a modern diesel car, even though its battery offers drivers barely more than half the range of a tank of diesel. And shortly thereafter, data published by VW confirmed that its e-Rabbit vehicle emits slightly more CO2 than its Rabbit Diesel within the German energy mix. (When based on the overall European energy mix, which includes a huge share of nuclear energy from France, the e-Rabbit fares slightly better than the Rabbit Diesel.)… a mid-sized electric passenger car in Germany must drive 219,000 km before it starts outperforming the corresponding diesel car in terms of CO2 emissions. The problem, of course, is that passenger cars in Europe last for only 180,000km, on average. Worse, according to Joanneum, EV batteries don’t last long enough to achieve that distance in the first place. Unfortunately, drivers’ anxiety about the cars’ range prompts them to recharge their batteries too often, at every opportunity, and at a high speed, which is bad for durability”

  13. I AM THE MOB on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 6:49 am 

    Clogg

    When is the last time you have been with a woman?

    Is Nazism is what happens after decades of being a hopeless incel?

  14. REAL Green on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 6:53 am 

    I have not read this yet but I suspect it will be essential to your REAL Green library:

    “Before The Collapse: The New Book by Ugo Bardi”
    https://tinyurl.com/qtnencn cassandralegacy

    “So, the choice of the title, “Before the Collapse,” to emphasize that we still have time to prepare for “The Other Side of Growth,” the dreaded social and climatic collapse that, by now, appears unavoidable. Yes, but that doesn’t mean we have to fall into the doom and gloom attitude that seems to be spreading among those who take the time to examine the situation. The gist of the book is that collapse is not an exceptional event, it is the way the universe works (collapse is not a bug, it is a feature). It is the way the universe uses to get rid of the old to make space for the new. And we badly need to get rid of the old things and ideas that have led us to where we are. As someone said, “collapse early and avoid the rush!” So, sometimes you can’t avoid collapse, but you can always be prepared for it. But “BTC” is not just about the “big one,” the civilization collapse that we are fearing so much and for good reasons. Collapse, it seems, has a certain fractal character. There are big and small collapses and the small ones are more frequent and can affect anyone. So, BTC tries to help the reader to navigate among the perilous cliffs of life that involve such things as bankruptcy, natural disasters, structural collapses, wars (large and small), social unrest, business competition, zombie apocalypses and more. It is a sort of a smorgasbord of collapses: there is something for everyone.”

  15. Davy on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 8:49 am 

    I don’t have a REAL Green library stupid. Besides. Books aren’t real Green anyways. dumbass

  16. full woke supremacist muzzies jerk I love cats, I love every kind of cat. I just to hug all of them but I can't! Can't hug every cat! Can't hug every cat! So anyway, I am a cat lover and I love to run! I'm sorry im being emotional i think about on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 9:19 am 

    i feel i’m being ignored because i’m the new alt-tard media and supertard is experience new alt-tard media fatigue.
    muzzies planned christmas attack in aus.

  17. JuanP garbage on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 9:35 am 

    Well, first we have stupid trying to be creative with his stupid muzzie jerk then we have stupid doing mindless ID theft. what is amazing is he has done this over 2 years. Amazing stupidity. lol.

    full woke supremacist muzzies jerk I love cats, I love every kind of cat. I just to hug all of them but I can’t! Can’t hug every cat! Can’t hug every cat! So anyway, I am a cat lover and I love to run! I’m sorry im being emotional i think about said i feel i’m being ignored because i’m t…

    Davy said I don’t have a REAL Green library stupid. Besides….

  18. full woke supremacist muzzies jerk I love cats, I love every kind of cat. I just to hug all of them but I can't! Can't hug every cat! Can't hug every cat! So anyway, I am a cat lover and I love to run! I'm sorry im being emotional i think about on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 9:50 am 

    “Terror-Related” London Bridge Attack Leaves 5 Casualties, One Suspect In Custody
    Profile picture for user Tyler Durden
    by Tyler Durden
    Fri, 11/29/2019 – 09:24
    Summary:

    Met Police are treating the incident as terror-related

    A person is believed to have attacked people with a knife

    A man has been detained by police

    There are up to five casualties, according to police

    Officers have cordoned off the bridge

    London Bridge Station is closed

    An explosion was heard at the south end of the bridge, near Borough Market

  19. JuanP on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 9:52 am 

    OOps this is a zero hedge article. stupid full woke supremacist muzzies jerk I love cats, I love every kind of cat. I just to hug all of them but I can’t! Can’t hug every cat! Can’t hug every cat! So anyway, I am a cat lover and I love to run! I’m sorry im being emotional i think about

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shots-fired-near-london-bridge-police-block-area

    I get extremely triggered when people reference articles that are also on Zero Hedge. I can’t stand it. fuckers

    Leave a Reply

  20. full woke supremacist muzzies jerk I love cats, I love every kind of cat. I just to hug all of them but I can't! Can't hug every cat! so anyway, I am a cat lover and I love to run! I'm sorry im being emotional i think about cats again on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 9:55 am 

    I wish the muzzie lovin and new alt tard media fatigue would make inner struggle go away. It seems london bridge has a peaceful event. Somebody did something

  21. full woke supremacist muzzies jerk I love cats, I love every kind of cat. I just to hug all of them but I can't! Can't hug every cat! so anyway, I am a cat lover and I love to run! I'm sorry im being emotional i think about cats again on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 10:39 am 

    i wish the muzzies lovin’ and new alt tard media fatigue which i’m running would prevent muzzie inner struggle. i don’t want a shot fired or whether we have to waste other resources to have peaceful society . it looks like muzzie was spreading peace in london and peaceful outcomes involved dead people.
    it’s very peaceful i mean.

    this will be soon old news even thought it’s been 1400 years and it going strong. muzzie inner struggle is a perfect form of recording history because it’s the same in the 7th century as it is today and in the future.

    when global trial of muzzies convict of murder, rape, oppression of women and a few dozen other charges the penalty is death.

    muzzies anti rape machine
    muzzies amputation machine
    muzzies hamster machine

    all these machines will be behind gates and the widened gates are labeled “victimhood”, “inner struggle” and “peaceful” and many other. the category “FGM NASTY” may also need to be widened.

  22. full woke supremacist muzzies jerk I love cats, I love every kind of cat. I just to hug all of them but I can't! Can't hug every cat! so anyway, I am a cat lover and I love to run! I'm sorry im being emotional i think about cats again on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 11:06 am 

    the gate labeled “victimhood” will lead to all the machines, as the same for all gates.
    the muzize slide the muzzie victimhood card and got slammed by a swing arm into the muzzie anti rape machine where the muzzie rape tool is trimmed to a stump, then on to the muzzie amputatio machine which helps with cutting down attacks using knives. then the muzzie hamster machine helps generalte REAL GREEN electricty which Greta would be proud to charge her green electric vehicles and drive

  23. REAL Green on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 11:46 am 

    My cat died full woke supremacist muzzies jerk I love cats, I love every kind of cat. I just to hug all of them but I can’t! Can’t hug every cat! so anyway, I am a cat lover and I love to run! I’m sorry im being emotional i think about cats again. The last time when we were still on our meds Davy forgot to feed it. I think he did it on purpose just to make me upset. Bot I’m not sure about that. Davy can be awful cruel to animals sometimes.

  24. JuanP ID theft on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 11:49 am 

    this is stupid, can you tell!

    REAL Green said My cat died full woke supremacist muzzies jerk I l…

  25. JuanP garbage on Fri, 29th Nov 2019 11:53 am 

    This is stupid’s many personalities:

    full woke supremacist muzzies jerk I love cats, I love every kind of cat. I just to hug all of them but I can’t! Can’t hug every cat! so anyway, I am a cat lover and I love to run! I’m sorry im being emotional i think about cats again said the gate labeled “victimhood” will lea…

    full woke supremacist muzzies jerk I love cats, I love every kind of cat. I just to hug all of them but I can’t! Can’t hug every cat! so anyway, I am a cat lover and I love to run! I’m sorry im being emotional i think about cats again said i wish the muzzies lovin’ and new alt tard m…

    Flux Capacitor said Rickard is a Dorkio

    Flux Capacitor said Fuck those fucking fuckerheads.

    richard burcik said Why does your organization steadfastly refuse to r…

    full woke supremacist muzzies jerk I love cats, I love every kind of cat. I just to hug all of them but I can’t! Can’t hug every cat! so anyway, I am a cat lover and I love to run! I’m sorry im being emotional i think about cats again said I wish the muzzie lovin and new alt tard media fat…

  26. Cloggie on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 4:04 am 

    Clogg

    When is the last time you have been with a woman?

    When I was young, we had a kid in the neighborhood suffering from Down-syndrome. He had the habit to approach you, put his huge face 10 cm from yours and yell: hoe heet jij? (what’s your name?).

    Every time I read posts from the mobster, like the one quoted, I have to think of that poor kid.

  27. Cloggie on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 4:32 am 

    Cloggo, please, I don’t care for Jews.

    They care about you though, as a nice tax farm asset.

    Blacks are not my race but they are OK.

    What’s that for a stoopid remark!? Of course blacks “are OK”. Sunny and Shia Muslims are OK too, Croats are OK, Serbs are OK, Chinese are OK, Russians and Ukrainians are OK, Palestinians are OK, Hutu’s and Tutsi’s are OK.

    https://www.amazon.com/Im-OK-Youre-OK-Thomas-Harris/dp/0060724277/ref=sr_1_1

    That’s not the point. The point is that these groups have different group identities, otherwise they wouldn’t be different groups. There is a profound reason why in zoo’s, otherwise very OK but different animals are kept in different cages, because if they don’t they see each other as a very OK breakfast. Human history is little more than the endless tale of inter-ethnic and and inter-religious conflict. But Americans like you, would love to ignore that, claim that “you have moved on”. And besides, reading history books is such a pussy thing to do, just good enough for Yuropeans, right? Well, ignore simple lessons from history at your own peril.

    I am not a white backstabber.

    You are, every time you spray words like “racist” and “natzi” around, you do the bidding of your kosher owners, those who want to phase you out from history. And destroy the future of your children, one smear word at a time. There is a good reason why the mobster is making fun of white Americans like you, because, boy, are you easy meat.

    You euros can’t spend centuries raping and pillaging the world then profiting off it and not expect to pay a price.

    BS, we got these monkeys out of the trees and learned them how to eat with knife and fork, right anonymous? The only ones with a history of raping and pillaging were second hand Europeans like Americans and Soviets. But the USSR is down and now you are next.

  28. Cloggie on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 4:48 am 

    China has no offensive capability to invade Australia and likely never will. They might pull off a Taiwan invasion but that is whole other animal. If china is doing an economic invasion that is just going to bite China and its neighbors in the ass when decline intensifies. China is clearly exporting its debt and over capacity problem. It has done huge malinvestment at home and now is doing it abroad. It is a nightmare in the making and I have posted multiple articles showing the failure. Cloggo, is so anti-Anglo any fantasy he can dream up gets spit out of his lunatic mind. China taking over Australia is one of the better. OH, cloggo, please don’t reference your Fraser guy. He is a politician and most of them are agenda oriented like you instead of smart and honest

    Where would we be without empire dave figuring things out for us, I’am asking you?

    Hey lookies! China is courting the Solomon islands with money by the bucket load, just in return for a military bases:

    https://tinyurl.com/rrp2ypb

    Now why would they want to have a military bases next to Mao’s “very lonely continent”? Empire dave pretends to be too stupid not to understand and perhaps he doesn’t:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7694649/Experts-fear-Chinas-invasion-Australias-Pacific-neighbours-spread-here.html

    “China’s march through the South Pacific: How the communist superpower is quietly ‘invading’ Australia’s cash-strapped neighbours – and why you should be worried”

    China: 1350 million, GDP $20T, peace-time army of 2 million. Endless reserves.

    Australia: 25 million, GDP $1.4T, peace-time army of 59k.

    Do the math.

    Typical empire dave reasoning: “I don’t want it to happen, so it is not going to happen, otherwise I stamp on the ground real hard and will yell, like I did when I was 12 year old and wanted an icecream.”.ROFL

    Thanks for reminding me about Fraser:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/01/02/america-australias-dangerous-ally/

  29. Davy on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 4:48 am 

    “Cloggo, please, I don’t care for Jews.” “They care about you though, as a nice tax farm asset.”
    Bullshit cloggo, Jews are just another group lobbying for their own interest. It is a big country with many power centers.

    “Blacks are not my race but they are OK.” What’s that for a stoopid remark!? Of course blacks “are OK”. That’s not the point. The point is that these groups have different group identities, otherwise they wouldn’t be different groups. There is a profound reason why in zoo’s, otherwise very OK but different animals are kept in different cages, because if they don’t they see each other as a very OK breakfast.
    MY GOD, that is dumb. Cloggo, you can’t carry an argument on race worth a shit.

    “Human history is little more than the endless tale of inter-ethnic and and inter-religious conflict. But Americans like you, would love to ignore that, claim that “you have moved on”.
    Ah, and inter-ethnic and religious cooperation too but you conveniently act like that is not reality. That is called binary thinking with a false dilemma.

    “And besides, reading history books is such a pussy thing to do, just good enough for Yuropeans, right? Well, ignore simple lessons from history at your own peril.”
    History, geography and philosophy were my best subjects at the University. I still read about these subjects all the time. What I don’t do is history revisions with an amateur WordPress.

    “I am not a white backstabber.” You are, every time you spray words like “racist” and “natzi” around, you do the bidding of your kosher owners, those who want to phase you out from history.”
    A natzi is not the bench mark of being white, cloggo. Also, there are multiple white identities. You think white means Eurotard racist white

    “ And destroy the future of your children, one smear word at a time. There is a good reason why the mobster is making fun of white Americans like you, because, boy, are you easy meat.”
    Mobster is a stupid kid who is lost in his anger and resentment. The same is true of you and makato. You guys are extremist and unable to see the whole picture.

    “You euros can’t spend centuries raping and pillaging the world then profiting off it and not expect to pay a price. BS, we got these monkeys out of the trees and learned them how to eat with knife and fork, right anonymous?”
    Liar, the Dutch, Spanish, French, and English colonized the world with rape and pillage. Wow, and you said you are a history specialist. What a joke.

  30. Davy on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 4:58 am 

    “China has no offensive capability to invade Australia and likely never will. They might pull off a Taiwan invasion but that is whole other animal. If china is doing an economic invasion that is just going to bite China and its neighbors in the ass when decline intensifies.” “Where would we be without empire dave figuring things out for us, I’am asking you?”
    LOL, quite a retort there cloggo. I mean what did you have to say but you are pissed.

    “Hey lookies! China is courting the Solomon islands with money by the bucket load, just in return for a military bases:”
    Courting does not mean capabilities cloggo. Where are the bases with manpower and equipment? Besides a few missiles can take out an island, right cloggo?? LOL. Mr, every military machine is obsolete because of missiles. Double lol.

    “Now why would they want to have a military bases next to Mao’s “very lonely continent”? Empire dave pretends to be too stupid not to understand and perhaps he doesn’t:”
    Cloggo, China is setting up bases in many areas. It is not about taking over Australia but your obsolete WW2 brain thinks these things.

    “China’s march through the South Pacific: How the communist superpower is quietly ‘invading’ Australia’s cash-strapped neighbours – and why you should be worried” China: 1350 million, GDP $20T, peace-time army of 2 million. Endless reserves.”
    China is falling apart as we speak and the cloggo is conveniently ignoring all its troubles and act like they will take over Asia. China will be lucky to hold itself together.

    “Do the math.”
    You mean do the agenda.

    “Typical empire dave reasoning: “I don’t want it to happen, so it is not going to happen, otherwise I stamp on the ground real hard and will yell, like I did when I was 12 year old and wanted an icecream.”.ROFL”
    What does stupid say….your projecting. LMFAO

    “Thanks for reminding me about Fraser:”
    You love politicians who talk out their ass then you weave that into an agenda speak and park it on your fraudulent WordPress pages. Cloggo, you are not hard to figure out.

  31. Cloggie on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 5:20 am 

    “Besides a few missiles can take out an island, right cloggo?? LOL. Mr, every military machine is obsolete because of missiles. Double lol.”

    Not an island, but carriers, tanks, planes, yes.

    But does Australia have the hyper-sonic missiles to take out Chinese passenger planes, dropping tens of thousands of Chinese paratroopers, who next take over an isolated harbor, opening the door for Chinese supplies and war material.

    That eternal missile discussion only applies to obsolete US carriers, who try to intimidate the Chinese in the South China Sea or the Iranians in the Gulf. They can’t keep the Chinese out of sparsely populated Australia.

    “It is not about taking over Australia but your obsolete WW2 brain thinks these things.”

    The only one with an obsolete WW2-brain is you and your dreams about “projecting US power with carriers”. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria prove that you are a walkover.

    “China is falling apart as we speak”

    I think you are mixing up China with the US. China is around for 3000 years or more, you only since 1783, thanks to European help. It is now clear that much of North-America will be darkie country again, courtesy uncle Schmull.

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2018/05/21/european-america-is-over/

    No worries though, nothing that can’t be solved with a PBM-supported wave of secessions. I hope you do understand though that these kind of geopolitical services come at a price, namely you ending up as a junior partner of PBM.

    “Cloggo, you are not hard to figure out.”

    I know I am a good teacher.

  32. Cloggie on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 5:41 am 

    “MY GOD, that is dumb. Cloggo, you can’t carry an argument on race worth a shit.”

    But you have nothing to say against it. Cornered.

    “Ah, and inter-ethnic and religious cooperation too but you conveniently act like that is not reality. That is called binary thinking with a false dilemma.”

    Cooperation? Yes, by US-heeb-colonized, brainwashed secular-christian whites, who suffer defeat upon defeat by giving away their countries under the influence of political correct kosher media to hostile “cooperating religions”, who are just biding their time. The US is on the verge of CW2, you fool, thanks to decades of “cooperation”. Humans are tribal by nature and there is not a f* you can do about it, you sanctimonious dip-shit, married to a white woman, living in a 100% white neighborhood and a flight-path into 100% white Italian safety under in his drawer.

    “Mobster is a stupid kid who is lost in his anger and resentment.”

    He is a kike who owns you and runs circles around you and laughs you in your face.

    “Liar, the Dutch, Spanish, French, and English colonized the world with rape and pillage. Wow, and you said you are a history specialist. What a joke.”

    The Dutch have no history of rape and pillage. There was nothing to “pillage” in the first place in these colonized jungles. It were the Dutch who developed these areas, away from the jungle… until they were strong enough to kick us out. Good for them. Relations between the Netherlands and Indonesia are excellent, why shouldn’t they. They do not remember us as rapist, but in end effect as a white gravy-train, they could jump on to arrive at a much higher level than 400 years ago.

    Last month I saw a documentary about post-colonial Indonesia. The Dutch television team was received cordially everywhere, there is zero anti-Dutch animosity or resentment in Indonesia. They take great effort in preserving the Dutch heritage. There was one Indonesian (probably minority Christian) who dedicated his entire life in maintaining Dutch buildings. He stopped short in saying that he was sorry that the Dutch left, but it was almost on his lips. I have seen a movie about poor Indians stealing electricity, making jokes about the time of British rule and that everything worked much better than.

    The only ones who really kept slaves and murdered indigenous population by the millions were your kind. Not to mention your excursions in Europe in WW2, together with your mass-murdering Soviet buddies.

    Rest assured that nothing is forgotten and that history will smash in your face soon like a 180 kmh base ball bat.

  33. Davy on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 5:52 am 

    “Besides a few missiles can take out an island, right cloggo?? LOL. Mr, every military machine is obsolete because of missiles. Double lol.” “Not an island, but carriers, tanks, planes, yes.”
    LMFAO, so if carriers, tanks, and planes are on or at islands then they are fine??

    “But does Australia have the hyper-sonic missiles to take out Chinese passenger planes, dropping tens of thousands of Chinese paratroopers, who next take over an isolated harbor, opening the door for Chinese supplies and war material.”
    LMFAO, passenger planes dropping 10’s of thousands of troop?? Where the frig did you study military tactics and strategy. You would be laughed out the door, cloggo

    “That eternal missile discussion only applies to obsolete US carriers, who try to intimidate the Chinese in the South China Sea or the Iranians in the Gulf. They can’t keep the Chinese out of sparsely populated Australia.”
    LMFAO again, cloggo, they have to get to Australia and in the process, they are sitting ducks. Your fascination with missiles is like your other binary thinking bias towards your fantasy winner. You live by double standards. BTW, within 5 years all great powers will likely have some form of hypersonic capability. It is the new standard. Currently Russia does not have the ability to produce enough to be a game changer. We are not even sure of their true capabilities in an actual conflict situation. China does not have many of these missiles yet either. What we do have is thousands of NUK that will prevent large scale WW’s like you salivate over.

    “It is not about taking over Australia but your obsolete WW2 brain thinks these things.” “The only one with an obsolete WW2-brain is you and your dreams about “projecting US power with carriers”. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria prove that you are a walkover.”
    Where did I talk about carriers projecting power only? They are a military tool and the reason every other great power is producing them. You are so self-absorbed in your own agenda you disregard military trends. OH, cloggo, give me an example of any of your above military actions where the US was beaten in the field at battalion level or greater. We are not talking the platoon size that you want to highlight. That is called small engagements. If objectives were not met that is a political situation. You confuse the two because you live on cherry picking hype.

    “China is falling apart as we speak” “I think you are mixing up China with the US. China is around for 3000 years or more, you only since 1783, thanks to European help. It is now clear that much of North-America will be darkie country again, courtesy uncle Schmull.”
    So cloggo, for 3000 years China has had the same configuration, economy, and population. Where did you go to school? All nations are collapsing especially China, Europe, and the US. It is a process and is related to net energy, systematic socioeconomics, and planetary reasons.

    “No worries though, nothing that can’t be solved with a PBM-supported wave of secessions. I hope you do understand though that these kind of geopolitical services come at a price, namely you ending up as a junior partner of PBM.”
    Cloggo, PBM is not reality. Get a grip man. You really are out there in your false world of fantasy and make believe.

  34. Davy on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 6:02 am 

    “MY GOD, that is dumb. Cloggo, you can’t carry an argument on race worth a shit.” “But you have nothing to say against it. Cornered.”
    Is that all you got to say?? Who is cornered?

    “Ah, and inter-ethnic and religious cooperation too but you conveniently act like that is not reality. That is called binary thinking with a false dilemma.” Cooperation? Yes, by US-heeb-colonized, brainwashed secular-christian whites, who suffer defeat upon defeat by giving away their countries under the influence of political correct kosher media to hostile “cooperating religions”, who are just biding their time.”
    Cloggo, the world got to where it is through cooperation not eurotard white dominance. You Eurotards are just a backwater. A nice place to visit and eat good food.

    “ The US is on the verge of CW2, you fool, thanks to decades of “cooperation”. Humans are tribal by nature and there is not a f* you can do about it, you sanctimonious dip-shit, married to a white woman, living in a 100% white neighborhood and a flight-path into 100% white Italian safety under in his drawer.”
    BULLSHit, lol, the US is in a CW2 in Washington DC but not with the rest of the country. Your Eurotard land is suffering the same conflicts the US is. In fact, there are more in Europe than the US because the eurotardland is Balkanizing as we speak.

    “Mobster is a stupid kid who is lost in his anger and resentment.” He is a kike who owns you and runs circles around you and laughs you in your face.”
    He is not Jewish dumbass he is a blind lying liberal extremist. They come in every color.

    “Liar, the Dutch, Spanish, French, and English colonized the world with rape and pillage. Wow, and you said you are a history specialist. What a joke.” “The Dutch have no history of rape and pillage. There was nothing to “pillage” in the first place in these colonized jungles. It were the Dutch who developed these areas, away from the jungle…”
    Friggin liar, anywhere any colonial Eurotard went they change the culture and the environment to their personal desires. That is called rape and pillage. They were not invited in they came in and took what they wanted.

    “Last month I saw a documentary about post-colonial Indonesia. The Dutch television team was received cordially everywhere, there is zero anti-Dutch animosity or resentment in Indonesia.”
    How convenient that a Dutch TV talks glowingly about Dutch animosity. LMFAO at the dumbshit.

    “Rest assured that nothing is forgotten and that history will smash in your face soon like a 180 kmh base ball bat.
    Talking like makato now so we now you are off in la la land. Too Funny

  35. Cloggie on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 6:26 am 

    Oh dear, memory hole again…

    can’t post long posts…

  36. Cloggie on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 6:27 am 

    [asda sda sdasdasd asda sdas dasdas d]

    “LMFAO, so if carriers, tanks, and planes are on or at islands then they are fine??”

    You were talking about missiles taking out islands, not carriers “on” islands. (Psst, carriers are ships).

    “LMFAO, passenger planes dropping 10’s of thousands of troop?? Where the frig did you study military tactics and strategy. You would be laughed out the door, cloggo”

    You are laughing a lot but as usual you do not provide arguments. What are Australians going to do against troop transporting planes, like from the Solomon islands, in remote places. Rest assured the Aussies do NOT have missile batteries everywhere in Mao’s lonely continent. And there are so many Asian fifth columns in Australia who can act as spies.

    [part 1]

  37. Davy on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 6:45 am 

    “LMFAO, so if carriers, tanks, and planes are on or at islands then they are fine??” “You were talking about missiles taking out islands, not carriers “on” islands. (Psst, carriers are ships).”
    I said on or at islands in regards to tanks and carriers, stupid. OH, and yes missiles can take out Islands in regards to their capabilities. They can be rendered useless no different than a carrier at sea which is a small floating island.

    “LMFAO, passenger planes dropping 10’s of thousands of troop?? Where the frig did you study military tactics and strategy. You would be laughed out the door, cloggo” “You are laughing a lot but as usual you do not provide arguments.”
    Cloggo, get a grip, men dropping out of planes are not going to take over a country. Not even close. It did not happen in WW2 so why would it happen now. Besides you don’t use passenger planes to drop troop anyway. They are not built for it. What a friggin joke you are.

    “ What are Australians going to do against troop transporting planes, like from the Solomon islands, in remote places.”
    LMFAO, how many Chinese are you going to fit on the Solomon Islands? BTW, what about the Solomon people. Are the Chinese going to trick these people into giving the Chinese bases? Islands can only support so many people. You apparently think very low of these people and the Chinese. You definitely don’t think rationally and scientifically.

    “Rest assured the Aussies do NOT have missile batteries everywhere in Mao’s lonely continent. And there are so many Asian fifth columns in Australia who can act as spies.”
    Jews too right cloggo??? LMFAO. You are too much. Give it up cloggo you got the bat to the head instead of me.

  38. Davy on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 6:46 am 

    cloggo please where is [part 2]???????

  39. Where is stupid?? on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 6:47 am 

    cloggo, have you heard from stupid? Where the frig is juanPee today? Is the troll very very depressed today and can’t get out of bed??

  40. Cloggie on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 6:54 am 

    Tried posting the rest elsewhere, but I can’t post anything larger than 1 line. Waste of time. Gonna spend my precious time on posting on my blog.

  41. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 7:08 am 

    Most of America’s rural areas are doomed to decline

    Metropolitan areas consist of those counties with central cities of at least 50,000, along with the surrounding counties that are economically dependent on them. They make up 36% of all counties. Between 2008, the cusp of the Great Recession, and 2017, they enjoyed nearly 99% of all job and population growth.
    http://theconversation.com/most-of-americas-rural-areas-are-doomed-to-decline-115343

  42. Davy on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 8:03 am 

    Should read too:
    “Most of America’s urban areas are doomed to decline”

    Most urban areas are in overshoot with population and consumption. The fact rural areas are in decline just reflects the nature of the parasitic overshoot. The consumption and the support for these urban areas requires exploitation of the rural areas at their expense. Market based capitalism is about energy intensive economies of scale both behavioral and materially that means concentrations of people. This should be a no brainers to a publication like the conservation dot com but these publications are blind lying liberal and urban orientated. IOW these people think urban with clean and green are the key to the future. Techno solutions that are green will allow overpopulation and increasing comforts to go on an on. Limits are not evident thinks the blind lying liberal if green solutions are taken.

  43. Davy on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 8:04 am 

    “Tried posting the rest elsewhere, but I can’t post anything larger than 1 line. Waste of time. Gonna spend my precious time on posting on my blog.”

    We will miss you cloggo. You are so enlightening on missles, racsim, and military fantasy

  44. A challenged for stupid on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 8:07 am 

    Stupid, I made two spelling boo boos because I am writing so fast can you pick them out Mr spelling bee juanPee without an intelligent brain cell in his head?

  45. REAL Green on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 8:11 am 

    “Discussion Forum: Education”
    https://tinyurl.com/ufejhrs damariszehner

    “Education is often neglected among people who write about a future altered by climate change and the end of fossil fuels. It’s true that other subjects, such as renewable energy, carbon emissions, extinctions, and human population pressures, seem more urgent. We take education for granted, the way we take air and water for granted; maybe we think that we’ve figured it out, and we can just coast. Even most people who advocate for reforms are generally just suggesting tweaks to the current system. But if education, however it is conceived and implemented, is fundamental to the development of human beings, then it must be looked at far more carefully. So I invite you all to diagnose current problems, imagine reforms, and describe the system that you think best fits a human-shaped life. Feel free to be as radical as you like; consider ages, arrangements, subjects, methods, schedules, funding, buildings, elementary, secondary, college, and anything else that needs to be rethought. On your mark, get set — Go!”

  46. REAL Green on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 8:12 am 

    The problem boils down to what are we even capable of in regards to education reform. If we cannot even agree on the science how much can you really achieve? Reform is also a problem with when you start the process. Humans are imprinted at an early age which influences the rest of their life. Then there is the issue at home where a great deal of nurturing occurs. If we as a people cannot even agree on the science and even when there is agreement on science then the there is a flaw with the science of the solutions. Delusional solutions are about as bad as denialist science just at an ascending level. Delusional solutions can harm just as bad.

    We have brown denialist and we have fake greens. Both shades of denialist and fakes want to do more of the same. Fake greens want to do more of the same but green and clean. Anyone that is honest with the science knows renewables are not clean and green. The only thing clean and green is adapted behavior. Some things are cleaner and greener than others. Acknowledging traditional narrative of green is not clean today would be a step because that step would say behavior must change before techno solutions. Solar and wind farms are better than a new shopping mall in regards to foot print, yet, if this is running an EV car culture is still a car culture. Car culture is what is killing the world.

    Delocalization of globalism through the car culture and attainment of affluent comforts and satisfactions is killing the planet. You can’t green that up much. If this is true then an education system is carbon trapped and path dependent. It cannot be reformed as it should because of the basic social narrative in place. A proper education system would be partially like the late 19th century and early 20th where home economics and gardening were taught with planetary realities as the basis. A proper education system would start with the fundamentals of the carbon trap and path dependencies by saying collapse is ahead. Can any of you imagine the storm created with a teacher talking about collapse. At what age can kids deal with the idea of collapse? The idea of collapse has to get at the very young to properly educate. It is my opinion the education as is cannot be reformed. There are too many other priorities. We can maybe adapt the university some but there ecology and climate are well taught for anyone interested. We need to reach further down into the early years. We need to get honest about the science. We also need to deal with the most important element and that is behavior.

    I would use a template of the Catholic school system but adapted with ecology as the center of behavior influencing all other subjects. This would include hands on with the basics of conservation, efficient living, and food production. It would promote sustainability and resilience as a core thinking. It would be behavior based with planetary respect. This will not happen but it is good to imagine and understand what it would take to develop citizens into planetary caring people wanting to lower foot prints. It could happen on a small scale subsidized by government and extended out to permaculture localism. In other words, quit trying to change what cannot be change and instead plant seeds of change in small groups and locals for when crisis allows these small nodes of excellence to replicate and impact society when the time is fertile. In the mean time it is the moral duty in a planetary sense for anyone awakened to try to influence the young positively on the importance of footprint and eco behavior locally and individually. Local seminars and group discussions are essential but unfortunately will be drown out by the noise of modern life.

  47. REAL Green on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 8:26 am 

    “Empty glacial basins: The hydropower opportunity of the future?”
    https://tinyurl.com/s9c7tq7 hydro review

    “The authors, with ETH Zurich and the Swiss Federal Institute for Forest, Snow and Landscape Research WSL, explore the water storage and hydropower potential of areas that are expected to become ice-free during the course of this century. For roughly 185,000 sites that are glacierized at present, they predict the potentially emerging reservoir storage volume and hydropower potential. Using a climate-driven glacier-evolution model and topographical analysis, they estimate a theoretical maximal total storage and hydropower potential of 875 ± 260 km3 and 1,355 ± 515 terawatt-hours per year, respectively (95% confidence intervals). “This theoretical total potential corresponds to about one third of current hydropower production worldwide. But in reality, only part of it would be realizable,” explains research team lead Daniel Farinotti.”

  48. REAL Green on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 8:30 am 

    “Environmental Defense Fund study says hydropower “can actually be bad for climate”
    https://tinyurl.com/yx55fdkr hydro review

    “The Environmental Defense Fund has published a study in Environmental Science and Technology that it says shows that hydropower “is not always as good for the climate as broadly assumed.” EDF said it assessed the warming impacts over time of sustained greenhouse gas emissions estimated from nearly 1,500 hydropower plants around the globe and looked at the implications of future hydropower development. EDF stated: “If minimizing climate impacts are not a priority in the design, construction and geographic placement of new hydropower facilities, we could end up generating electricity that yields more warming — especially in the near-term — than fossil fuels.” Because the reservoirs where water is stored produce both carbon dioxide and methane when vegetation decomposes under water, there are enormous differences from facility to facility due to a range of varying reservoir features and meteorological characteristics, EDF says. Some hydropower reservoirs are actually carbon sinks, taking in more carbon through photosynthesis by organisms living in the water than they emit through decomposition, while others have carbon footprints equal to or greater than fossil fuels. According to a press release, of the nearly 1,500 plants worldwide that EDF examined and account for half of global hydropower generation, more than 100 facilities have GHG emissions that cause more warming than fossil fuels”

  49. Cloggie on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 9:32 am 

    19 October 2019, massive demonstration in Rome of the entire political right, from Berlusconi, via Salvini to neo-fascists:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b9kWpGZHZg

    70,000 (police figure)

    Italy is going to be the first western European country where multicult will be officially abolished.

    Both Salvini and Berlusconi want to invite Russia. Berlusconi is very pro-EU, Salvini less so, but doesn’t want to leave the EU. Instead he wants to “save Europe”.

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2019/08/13/salvini-my-only-purpose-is-to-save-europe/

    “Salvini: “My only purpose is to save Europe””

    First the European Right is going to save Europe, next America. Russia doesn’t need to be saved, but will be invited.

  50. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 30th Nov 2019 11:29 am 

    Clogg

    Good luck with that. Capitalism is fueled by population increasing. So the far rights mission is self defeating. And Europes GDP per capita will be zero in less than 10 years.

    Europe has on shared language or culture. They are going to rip each other to shreds (again).

    LOL

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