Pops wrote:So?
Thanksgiving Day, 2005.
It's consequences on price were so horrifying that I am left...ALMOST...speechless. But a single graphic might suffice.
Pops wrote:So?
pstarr wrote:Folks expecting a heads up, a moment of truth and a big headline will be sorely disappointed. Nothing dramatic or singular will announce the end.
Plantagenet wrote:Twilight in the Desert is still coming. The PO Pearl Harbor will be when Gnawar collapses---and that could be any day now.
pstarr wrote:Plantagenet wrote:Twilight in the Desert is still coming. The PO Pearl Harbor will be when Gnawar collapses---and that could be any day now.
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The Peak Oil Pearl Harbor is coming
How do you know that Ghawar (corrected for spelling) has not collapsed already? And why would that signal something special? And why would Saudi Arabia bother to tell you? Have an inside position? Thought so
vtsnowedin wrote:It does not matter which oil field KSA pumps it from as long as they keep pumping and selling it.
vtsnowedin wrote:Of course their stated reserves may be total fiction but their actions are not those of someone who is down to the last barrel.
vtsnowedin wrote:In Exxon's last annual report they stated that they had 90 billion barrels of reserves under current rules. That is about a seven year supply for the USA if Exxon was pressed to provide all our needs.
Considering that Exxon is just one player (admittedly a big one) in the worlds oil supply market I don't expect the peak oil Pearl Harbor to be any time soon.
Plantagenet wrote:
The Peak Oil Pearl Harbor is predicted to happen sometime in the next 35 years---maybe next year, maybe as late as 2050+
Outcast_Searcher wrote:Plantagenet wrote:
The Peak Oil Pearl Harbor is predicted to happen sometime in the next 35 years---maybe next year, maybe as late as 2050+
And why should we believe the current forecast more than past ones?
Outcast_Searcher wrote: If it waits a decade or three, having a decent jump on things like the PHEV and the BEV going more mainstream, many alternatives of these to choose from, and green energy like wind and solar much more prevalent will sure help, as EV miles suddenly become MUCH more attractive when the price of oil rises meaningfully.
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So would it be inconvenient? Sure. Would it mean "doom"? It sure doesn't seem like anything close to that. (Note: Inconvenience or even less driving is NOT doom).
pstarr wrote:vtsnowedin wrote:pstarr wrote:Plantagenet wrote:Twilight in the Desert is still coming. The PO Pearl Harbor will be when Gnawar collapses---and that could be any day now.
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Its coming
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The Peak Oil Pearl Harbor is coming
How do you know that Ghawar (corrected for spelling) has not collapsed already? And why would that signal something special? And why would Saudi Arabia bother to tell you? Have an inside position? Thought so
It does not matter which oil field KSA pumps it from as long as they keep pumping and selling it. Of course their stated reserves may be total fiction but their actions are not those of someone who is down to the last barrel.
And you know how? Are you an insider like PlantedAgent?vtsnowedin wrote:But let us look at a more reliable source. In Exxon's last annual report they stated that they had 90 billion barrels of reserves under current rules. That is about a seven year supply for the USA if Exxon was pressed to provide all our needs.
Considering that Exxon is just one player (admittedly a big one) in the worlds oil supply market I don't expect the peak oil Pearl Harbor to be any time soon.
Exxon. reliable? Then why has the CEO jumped ship to take a bureaucrats salary? Hint: job security.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:Plantagenet wrote:
The Peak Oil Pearl Harbor is predicted to happen sometime in the next 35 years---maybe next year, maybe as late as 2050+
1). And why should we believe the current forecast more than past ones?
Outcast_Searcher wrote:2). If it happens soon, it's a good thing we have a big glut and technology is making things like cars more efficient (much more over time). That will greatly help ameliorate the impact.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:3). If it waits a decade or three, having a decent jump on things like the PHEV and the BEV going more mainstream, many alternatives of these to choose from, and green energy like wind and solar much more prevalent will sure help, as EV miles suddenly become MUCH more attractive when the price of oil rises meaningfully.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:1). And why should we believe the current forecast more than past ones?
2). If it happens soon, it's a good thing we have a big glut and technology is making things like cars more efficient (much more over time). That will greatly help ameliorate the impact.
3). If it waits a decade or three, having a decent jump on things like the PHEV and the BEV going more mainstream, many alternatives of these to choose from, and green energy like wind and solar much more prevalent will sure help, as EV miles suddenly become MUCH more attractive when the price of oil rises meaningfully.
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So would it be inconvenient? Sure. Would it mean "doom"? It sure doesn't seem like anything close to that. (Note: Inconvenience or even less driving is NOT doom).
ROCKMAN wrote:You've seen J6P respond to energy shock events in the past. You ever been impressed? LOL. And then once the shock had past seen him continuing to focus on the problem? Doubly unimpressed, eh? LOL. Many of our problems are rooted in human nature. Figure out how to geneticly modify it and we might have a chance.
But I do like the Pear Harbor anology much more the "collapse", "Armageddon ", etc. Much easier to visualize those dynamics at play.
vtsnowedin wrote: Well Duh! Pstarr. Rex has worked for Exxon from right out of engineering college forty years ago.He was set to retire next year anyway. So he pulls a gig of three to six years as Secretary of State like the Eagle scout he was and is.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:1). And why should we believe the current forecast more than past ones?
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