wisconsin_cur wrote:btw welcome back rocc, I wondered where you went
Something Pops wrote last week struck a chord with me. I needed a rest.
wisconsin_cur wrote:btw welcome back rocc, I wondered where you went
wisconsin_cur wrote:Depends on what you are buying. I have a grain mill and an arm to turn it with. I can get hard red winter wheat at ~10.00 per 50#.
FoolYap wrote:wisconsin_cur wrote:Depends on what you are buying. I have a grain mill and an arm to turn it with. I can get hard red winter wheat at ~10.00 per 50#.
Also depends on where you live. I also have a hand-cranked grain mill (the Country Living milll; two thumbs way up), and I can also buy a 50-pound bag of whole wheat for not much. But, I'll pay a bundle to have it trucked to me. Not much wheat being grown in New England, and what little there is appears to be bought by boutique bakeries or breweries. I've yet to find local wheat that I can purchase.
--Steve
cube wrote:An argument can be said it's not wheat stock piles that are important but ultimately world wheat inventory relative to population. I'd like to see a graph of that!
The article states we may reach a 59 year low. However it's important to note there was a lot less people on this planet back in 1949. Maybe things are actually much worse then it appears?
And finally to add extra doom to the gloom, I'd like to state it is NOT necessary to deplete inventories down to zero to have starvation. There will always be rich people that would like to have an excess supply in storage for stability. However if the price gets high enough some people will get left out of the market. Take a look at crude oil. We still a very decent supply of oil in storage but there's a lot of people in the 3rd world who have been priced out of the market....the Zimbabwe's and Burma's of the world.
How high does wheat have to get for some people to stop eating it?
mommy22 wrote:"Let them eat cake!" The rule at the time was that if the bakery ran out of bread for what ever reason, they were obligated to sell cake at the price of bread...
WOW I'm not sure who to believe now!...it is a reference to "oven cake" which was used to clean out the brick ovens when too much soot and creosote built up. So, with this meaning saying "let them eat cake" would be nearly equivalent to saying "let them eat garbage".
If you're making a reference to 3rd world nations that subsidize fuel --> IMHO the money would of been MUCH better spent keeping a balanced budget thereby eliminating inflation which destroys peoples' savings. The benefits of a stable currency would of done much more to help the poor rather then give them welfare in the form of subsidized fuel.wisconsin_cur wrote:...
great point!!
and lets not forget about those evil third world nations which subsidize the cost of wheat... we better pull them into line otherwise the poorest might not starve first. That would be socialism dang it!
cube wrote:If you're making a reference to 3rd world nations that subsidize fuel --> IMHO the money would of been MUCH better spent keeping a balanced budget thereby eliminating inflation which destroys peoples' savings. The benefits of a stable currency would of done much more to help the poor rather then give them welfare in the form of subsidized fuel.wisconsin_cur wrote:...
great point!!
and lets not forget about those evil third world nations which subsidize the cost of wheat... we better pull them into line otherwise the poorest might not starve first. That would be socialism dang it!
One reason why 3rd world nations ALWAYS remain poor is because it is impossible for people to save their money and invest in improving their lives. Every time they save up any amount of money it's value "disappears" in the form of inflation. It's a never ending cycle.
my 2 cents
wisconsin_cur wrote:Are there any feed stores that have it trucked in for animal feed?
Food Co-ops that buy in bulk?
Homesteader wrote:Steve,
Here is a link to a Massachusetts feed store that sells bagged wheat:
http://www.horseandbuggyfeeds.com/organicfeeds.htm
Google search: Massachusetts Horse Feed
Horse people are picky. If they would feed it to their horses it is good enough for me.
dohboi wrote:DoubleD, can you give any details on how to "properly store" grains? I too have a hand mill, but I'm not sure how to store largish quatities of grains to insure they keep well. Suggestions? Have you tried making noodles with your hand-milled grain? I find you have to sift it pretty fine to get the noodles to stick together.
Expected to be hit hardest by an import halt scenario are import dependent nations like Japan, said Estuo Kitahara, director general of the London-based IGC. The council observes grain trade and offers market information to 25 member countries and the European Union
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