Plantagenet wrote:Oh-oh. Story just out that multiple Chinese regulators have gone to TESLA's China factory and urged the US company to come into compliance with Chinese laws and regulations.
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Anyone who's been following China knows that the CCP in China demands that foreign companies who want to operate in China must take on Chinese partners. Then, sometimes, the foreign technology is rapidly duplicated by a Chinese competitor, and the foreign company is forced out of China and replaced by the local Chinese company, who has somehow incorporated the modern technology.
For instance, European high speed train companies started out selling high speed train equipment to China, but then the Chinese somehow duplicated the technology and now all Chinese high speed rail manufacturing is done in China exclusively by Chinese companies.
I was concerned when Tesla built their factory in China that this might happen to Tesla. And sure enough.....a purely Chinese EV manufacturer called NIO has sprung up to compete with Tesla.
I'm keeping an eye on this new development. I wouldn't be surprised to see China put more and more obstacles in Tesla's way to enable Chinese EV maker NIO to outcompete Tesla and shut them out of China.
Now its TESLA vs. NIO to win the Chinese EV market......and I predict the CCP is going to help NIO win
Cheers!
Outcast_Searcher wrote:I predict Musk will do what needs to be done to comply in China, as China is important to .... the .... success of Tesla.
Plantagenet wrote:Outcast_Searcher wrote:I predict Musk will do what needs to be done to comply in China, as China is important to .... the .... success of Tesla.
Of course.
But is Tesla important to the success of China? Or would the Chinese rather see Tesla be replaced in China by a Chinese EV maker?
China has a bad record when it comes to stealing technology from western businesses and then using it to foster Chinese companies that wind up competing against the US companies. I don't think Tesla is immune to this kind of Chinese activity.
And even though you are blind to the risk that China may use their governmental power to tilt the playing field against Tesla in China, people in the business community see this risk quite clearly. For instance, consider this article in CNN:
Elon Musk's love-in with China may be over as regulators go after Tesla
Cheers!
Outcast_Searcher wrote:when Tesla can't sell any cars in China, be SURE and get back to us.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:Not that I'd expect you to stop twisting facts and evading issues to try and make your political points
vtsnowedin wrote:Back in the day Alcoa used to ship aluminum ore (Bauxite) from Brazil to Canada to have it smelted using cheap Canadian hydro power. Today Australia has twice the reserves of Brazil and twelve times what Russia has so if Tesla's Russian supply gets cut off I doubt they will have much trouble finding a better source.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Plantagenet wrote:Who is to blame when a Tesla on autopilot smashes into another car and kills people?
Is the driver of the car on autopilot to blame?
Is Tesla to blame?
Tesla's autopilot was controlling and driving the car when the crash occurred......so maybe the driver should be considered to be just a passenger?
Who gets the traffic ticket for the vehicular homicide? Tesla or the driver?
Who gets sued by the family of victims? Tesla or the driver?
A case like this is now in court and soon the court will decide......
Is Tesla to blame when a car on autopilot causes a crash and kills someone?
Or is the driver to blame even though he wasn't in control of the car?
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Is Tesla to blame when a car on autopilot causes a crash and kills someone? Or is the driver to blame even though he wasn't in control of the car?
Cheers!
Plantagenet wrote:Outcast_Searcher wrote:when Tesla can't sell any cars in China, be SURE and get back to us.
Your suggestion that Tesla won't be able to sell any cars in China is silly.
Tanada wrote:vtsnowedin wrote:Back in the day Alcoa used to ship aluminum ore (Bauxite) from Brazil to Canada to have it smelted using cheap Canadian hydro power. Today Australia has twice the reserves of Brazil and twelve times what Russia has so if Tesla's Russian supply gets cut off I doubt they will have much trouble finding a better source.
Outcast_Searcher wrote: ... Tesla is facing ruin in China .... vastly overwrought
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