Cog wrote:It is a difficult political proposition to demand sacrifice unless the threat is crystal clear and the desired end state is preferable to the alternative of doing nothing.
dohboi wrote:Ah, more 'whataboutism.' Not surprising.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
"Look, here’s the thing, this thread is about Climate Change: Mitigation and Adaption. Yet here we are talking about Trump and relatively small issues."
Says the guy who just tried to derail a thread about children's education with irrelevant and gratuitous partisan tripe! :D :D :D
Meanwhile getting back on topic a bit wrt mitigation:
https://thinkprogress.org/maryland-clea ... Cok40C7AJI
Republican-led Maryland commits to sweeping clean energy standards
In a twist, Gov. Larry Hogan has endorsed a bigger target: 100% clean energy for the state by 2040.
Look everybody, this is me, dohboi, patting these Republicans on the back (or head or derriere, or wherever these types like to be patted ) for doing something right! How very non-partisan of me!! Do I get some kind of credit, or a gold start or something??
Ibon wrote:Cog wrote:It is a difficult political proposition to demand sacrifice unless the threat is crystal clear and the desired end state is preferable to the alternative of doing nothing.
Take your reasonably intelligent average joe whose aspirations are pretty much centered on enjoying his personal freedoms without having to be burdened with issues that require in depth consideration. His level of distrust in the past 25 years has skyrocketed seeing the bias in all the political parties in the way they twist facts to further their agendas. He witnesses corporate lobbyists in Washington influencing facts like the way the tobacco industry did trying to claim tobacco smoke doesn't cause cancer. He goes occasionally to church, not real religious and he believes in evolution but at the same time believes in a creator but does indeed get a bit confused over the science and were his faith really lies especially when he sees the hypocrisy of evangelists on late night TV that he mostly laughs at but knows there really were a lot of priests butt fucking little boys and yet there is all this anti abortion hysteria out there but damn grateful that the abortion clinic down the street didn't close down when his teenage daughter got drunk on prom night and got pregnant. He listens maybe to some right wing radio claiming that climate change activists are just trying to sell books and maybe he listens to NPR at times when Bernie Sanders is being interviewed about the rigged health care industry and this does resonate with him when he got billed $ 4000 for a Cat scan when his cousin who moved to Canada got the same procedure for free. He voted for Trump and is outraged at the pushback from the democrats about to the same degree to which he finds Trump compromised by his pathologically narcissistic personality. His daughters new boyfriend just made a bold statement at dinner the night before that all life on the planet will be extinct in the next 5 years because of the fossil fuel industry and the Koch brothers and now on top of it there are all these scientists stating that the polar ice caps are melting and his vacation home in Fort Pierce Florida may lose its property value soon or worst get flooded.
And I didn't even mention his on line experiences on social media
What is he really supposed to believe?
(Note that this does not include the Trump administration, which would further increase criminal indictments, convictions and sentences, considerably.)In the last 50+ years Democrats have been in office for 25 of those years while Republicans held it for 28.
In their 25 yrs in office Democrats had a total of three executive branch officials indicted with one (1) conviction and one prison sentence. That's one whole executive branch official convicted of a crime in two and a half decades of Democrat leadership.
In the 28 yrs that Republicans have held office over the last 53yrs they have had a total of 120 criminal indictments of executive branch officials, 89 criminal convictions, and 34 prison sentences handed down.
derhundistlos wrote:Newfie-
That you think HC should have been prosecuted is meaningless lest I remind you that the Republicans had the perfect opportunity to do so when they controlled all branches of the federal government from 2016-2018. Instead, they took a pass. Sam holds true with the Johnson administration.
I could play the same game, but why engage in an exercise that proves NOTHING, except what I would have liked to have seen done. What matters are FACTS, not personal opinions./
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