jedrider wrote:I could not understand how he believes that humanity "will" be wiped out by as soon as 2025. He has a level of certainty that I don't hear elsewhere, so I wonder about that.
Ibon wrote:jedrider wrote:I could not understand how he believes that humanity "will" be wiped out by as soon as 2025. He has a level of certainty that I don't hear elsewhere, so I wonder about that.
We better alert the suicide hotline in 2026 for Guy when humanity is still 8 billion strong.
Ibon wrote:jedrider wrote:I could not understand how he believes that humanity "will" be wiped out by as soon as 2025. He has a level of certainty that I don't hear elsewhere, so I wonder about that.
We better alert the suicide hotline in 2026 for Guy when humanity is still 8 billion strong.
Plantagenet wrote:Ibon wrote:jedrider wrote:I could not understand how he believes that humanity "will" be wiped out by as soon as 2025. He has a level of certainty that I don't hear elsewhere, so I wonder about that.
We better alert the suicide hotline in 2026 for Guy when humanity is still 8 billion strong.
Guy himself doesn't seem depressed or even unhappy at the idea of humanity going extinct, but one of Guy's side businesses is providing counseling services for other people who are suicidally depressed by his claim that humanity will soon go extinct due to global warming.
guymcpherson.com/2014/07/contemplating-suicide-please-click-here
Cheers!
CLIMATE CHANGE'S MISSING DISCIPLINE
Professor Emeritus, Guy McPherson, conservation biology, University of Arizona, will speak in San Diego. Prof. McPherson defines conservation biology simplistically as having three pillars; habitat, speciation, and extinction. Prof. McPherson will draw from his knowledge and understanding that his discipline (and his emphasis on interdisciplinary interactions) brings to the issue of Climate Change. In a word, McPherson says the main topic should be called Abrupt Climate Change. The title of his July 8th talk is, "Sometimes the Evidence is Right in Front of Our Eyes: Why the Deafening Silence About Abrupt Climate Change?"
When: Sunday, July 8, 2018, 6:30 p.m. to 8:30 p.m.
https://www.sandiegoreader.com/events/2 ... -86551e98/
Omani town sets temperature record after one of the hottest days ever monitored
On Tuesday 26 June, temperatures soared to record-breaking heights in the town near Muscat. Over the course of 24 hours, the “coolest” that the air reached was a sizzling 42.6 degrees Celsius (108.7 degrees Fahrenheit) – a new record for Highest “low” temperature.
The peak temperature in Quriyat within the same day was 49.8 degrees Celsius (121.6 degrees Fahrenheit) – the temperature at which road surfaces melt!
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/new ... red-531904
Fatal heat wave 20 years ago changed Chicago's emergency response
...Chicago was gripped by one of the city's worst natural disasters: a scorching heat wave that claimed more than 700 victims, mostly the poor, elderly and others on society's margins.
The temperature hit 106 degrees on July 13, 1995, and would hover between the high 90s and low triple digits for the next five days. Dozens of bodies filled the Cook County medical examiner's office. On a single day — July 15 — the number of heat-related deaths reached its highest daily tally of 215; refrigerated trucks were summoned to handle the overflow of corpses.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-c ... story.html
Deadly Degrees: Why Heat Waves Kill So Quickly
...when people with heat exhaustion can't find relief, they can quickly advance to heat stroke. This condition happens when a person's core body temperature rises above 104 degrees F (40 degrees C). (This number is something of an estimate; there are a few degrees' variability among people as to how much internal heat they can tolerate.)
In heat stroke, sweating stops and the skin becomes dry and flushed. The pulse is rapid. The person becomes delirious and may pass out. When trying to compensate for extreme heat, the body dilates the blood vessels in the skin in an attempt to cool the blood.
https://www.livescience.com/55129-how-h ... ickly.html
This logic reminds me of how AGW deniers try to use a relative handful of scientists blogging or signing some statement expressing doubt in AGW proves that AGW can't be true.
onlooker wrote:Rockdoc, what utter hogwash! Saying they're is some doubt is NOT equivalent to inferring that AGW theory is suspect and baseless. AGW is grounded in empirical Science. And the geologic record ice cores etc. consistently demonstrate unequivocally the effects of this dynamic. As for scientists not agreeing , it is practicality unanimous
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
And, finally we now have present day events/measurements/records that unambiguously show the EARTH is warming
Rockdoc, what utter hogwash! Saying they're is some doubt is NOT equivalent to inferring that AGW theory is suspect and baseless. AGW is grounded in empirical Science. And the geologic record ice cores etc. consistently demonstrate unequivocally the effects of this dynamic. As for scientists not agreeing , it is practicality unanimous
phaster wrote:Plantagenet wrote:Guy himself doesn't seem depressed or even unhappy at the idea of humanity going extinct, but one of Guy's side businesses is providing counseling services for other people who are suicidally depressed by his claim that humanity will soon go extinct due to global warming.
guymcpherson.com/2014/07/contemplating-suicide-please-click-here
Cheers!
based upon math, I know its impossible to predict that humans have 10 years left,... BUT we know from ice core records there have been climate tipping points where average temperatures have gone up 10 degrees C in a decade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKDVC4HJg7c
which would cause BIG problems in industrial farm food production,... perhaps this is what guy is thinking
actually just happens he will be in my neck of the woods to give a presentation, so guess that might be a good question to ask,....
anyone have any thoughts about other interesting questions you want me to ask guy???
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
You obviously ignored or did not read what Dissident wrote Sunshine. See his no. 4 remark. And again you are citing doubt about the degree and speed of temperature rise and warming to refute the entire theory? Really
Just because we cannot know exactly this progression does nothing to disqualify the hard scientific certainty of the processes involved and their eventual outcome. See again what Dissident wrote comments 1 and 2 about the details and FACTS that most laypeople are oblivious to including it seems yourself. This is empirical science not models. Nor do we need models to know that trace gases such as CO2 and CH4 have a strong heat trapping effect see Dissident comment 1.
It has been known for more than a decade that an understanding of factors controlling the distribution and amount of the low-level, fair-weather, clouds over the tropical oceans is critical for determining Earth’s climate sensitivity. What has become clear only recently is that these clouds do not simply respond passively to the large-scale circulations in which they form. Studies of clouds and circulations across a range of scales, enabled by increasing computational power, have shown that clouds help set these circulations through their interactions with radiation. Radiative cooling from low clouds drives low-level temperature and pressure gradients that reinforce the regions of gentle subsidence in which they prevail. This pathway is also thought to be responsible for the clustering—or self-aggregation—of deep convection seen in simulations with spatially uniform forcing. The relevance of self-aggregation behavior to clouds on Earth was one theme emerging from the workshop.
Water vapor, like clouds, interacts powerfully with radiant energy, and there is a longstanding appreciation that water vapor influences Earth’s climate sensitivity, especially through changes in water near the tropopause. But as several papers in this collection highlight, small departures in the relative humidity of the lower atmosphere can be just as important in influencing Earth’s radiative balance. Moreover, perhaps no other quantity is as important for patterning the distribution of deep convection. Despite the importance of lower tropospheric humidity for a vast array of climate relevant processes it is poorly characterized in the absence of field campaign measurements, largely because current remote sensing techniques have difficulty unambiguously detecting the structure of water vapor in the tropical boundary layer.
The only relevance of the models is to try and project the level of warming to be expected going forward. And real world data over the past few years is for the most part ahead of what the time intervals indicated by the models are showing
Meaning effects such as the Arctic sea ice melting are progressing much faster than the models predicted. As for the temperature lag, it has been many times here explained that the ocean inertia and sink function is responsible for this. And that as this process unwinds these same oceans will begin releasing the CO2 and then temperatures will rise rapidly. Face it your arguments are bankrupt and your sources almost certainly have a nexus with your industry.
Tanada wrote:Actually the ice core record tells us about REGIONAL 10 C temperature jumps, not GLOBAL scale events. A lot of people seem to be confused about this and I don't understand why that is. There are two scales you can read from an ice core, one tells you what is happening where the ice core is forming and in the waters evaporating to make the snow that becomes that ice core. The other scale tells you what is happening on a broader scale over the entire surface of the Earth. Those 10C jumps are NOT repeat NOT the global average temperature, they are the regional temperature.
Idiocracy
As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point. Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a future that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on, things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction. A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwZ0ZUy7P3E
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