Crazy_Dad wrote:I've just done the numbers on what I earn. Without budgeting for entertainment, medical, savings, car maint, kids outings/presents, school fees, gardening supplies and all the rest I am coming up 11 bucks a week short on the basics.
2k in the red on credit for all the things that crop up daily that need fixing - i.e. wife slipped a disc in her back a month ago...
Basics = modest house within striking distance of where I work(renting). Food for cooking with from scratch for 5. electricity, gas, water, petrol, health insurance. Kids sharing a bedroom.
I live in Perth Australia and am questioning why I bother anymore. And I'm lucky enough to have a job. Any suggestions on where I could move to? - New Zealand perhaps?
Xenophobe wrote:What makes you think moving solves the issue, unless it's onto an Amish commune?
SeaGypsy wrote:Papa M, I would disagree with your statements on FIFO sucking as a lifestyle and lost earning potential.
Currently a return ticket from Perth or Darwin to SE Asian hubs can be had for under $500AUD.
I know loads of guys working FIFO in Merchant Navy and oil/ gas/ mining. Most work a month on month off and gross upwards of $150k. These wage levels are attainable within 4 years in these industries.
When living here I am always meeting people with high wages working all over SE Asia. The job I just landed is through an FIFO friend here. The trend of part time expatry is spreading rapidly in the mining and shipping sectors.
papa moose wrote:SE Asia gives a much cheaper lifestyle if you go semi/native but culture shock and lost earning potential might out weigh this.
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SeaGypsy wrote:papa moose wrote:SE Asia gives a much cheaper lifestyle if you go semi/native but culture shock and lost earning potential might out weigh this.
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I didn't think I misread this PapaM?
Anyhow, I agree fully with what you say about Perth, the same is becoming true in every well serviced area where jobs are available. On the FIFO thing, for some reason younger guys are less into negotiating terms. I think you are talking about doing 2 weeks on one off or 20 and ten? I know this is the norm for starting contracts, but pretty much everyone I know in the formentioned sectors can determine their own contracts. Most of them get flown home to Asia free as well, because it's no different in cost to flying back tho the East Coast.
SeaGypsy wrote:One big problem in Australia is that it has become litigious and highly legalistic. Insurance demands in any kind of business are extrordinary. Most states require $10 million in public liability insurance alone to run any kind of physical business. The black market in Australia is mostly confined to illegal drugs, perhaps hotel/hosteliery is the only other significant black money earner. Try and set up a lemonaide stall for the kiddies in most towns in Australia you would be serviced a 'Cease and Desist' order prompto Monday morning.
SeaGypsy wrote:Funny, Lord of the Rings was the best and worst thing to ever happen to NZ, tripling tourism and house prices shortly therafter.
Hey CD, if you google rosco's mining jobs, he's a Perth local specialising in getting people started in mining. Very nice guy, very helpfull. I go back to Oz next week, to a $300 a day job in the Yasi repair area.
Hawkcreek wrote:Come to America and I will let you and your family live in a cabin on my property in exchange for labor in the garden. But only if you have an cool Aussie accent and know how to brew good beer.
Crazy_Dad wrote:We need some Egypt style riots. It is just a matter of time. I can't be the only one.
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