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Kunstler: Slouching Towards Election Day

It’s getting hard to give a shit about this election, though you might still care about this country. The damage has been done to the two long-reigning political parties and perhaps that’s a good thing. They deserved to be dragged into the gutter and now they can either go through a severe rehab or be replaced by as-yet-unformed coalitions of reality-based interests.

Trump did a greater disservice all-in-all to the faction he supposedly represented. Their grievances about a grift-maximized political economy were genuine, and Trump managed to make them look like a claque of sinister clowns. This cartoon of a rich kid with no internal boundaries was unable to articulate their legitimate complaints. His behavior during the so-called debates verged on psychotic. If Trump loses, I will essay to guess that his followers’ next step will be some kind of violence. For the moment, pathetic as it is, Trump was their last best hope.

I’m more comfortable about Hillary — though I won’t vote for her — because it will be salutary for the ruling establishment to unravel with her in charge of it. That way, the right people will be blamed for the mismanagement of our national affairs. This gang of elites needs to be circulated out of power the hard way, under the burden of their own obvious perfidy, with no one else to point their fingers at. Her election will sharpen awareness of the criminal conduct in our financial practices and the neglect of regulation that marked the eight years of Obama’s appointees at the Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission.

The “tell” in these late stages of the campaign has been the demonization of Russia — a way more idiotic exercise than the McCarthyite Cold War hysteria of the early 1950s, since there is no longer any ideological conflict between us and all the evidence indicates that the current state of bad relations is America’s fault, in particular our sponsorship of the state failure in Ukraine and our avid deployment of NATO forces in war games on Russia’s border. Hillary has had the full force of the foreign affairs establishment behind her in this war-drum-banging effort, yet they have not been able to produce any evidence, for instance, in their claim that Russia is behind the Wikileaks hack of Hillary’s email. They apparently subscribe to the Joseph Goebbels theory of propoganda: if you’re going to lie, make sure it’s a whopper, and then repeat it incessantly.

The media has been on-board with all this. The New York Times especially has acted as the hired amplifier for the establishment lies — such a difference from the same newspaper’s role in the Vietnam War ruckus of yesteryear. Today (Monday) they ran an astounding editorial “explaining” the tactical necessity of Hillary’s dishonesty: “In politics, hypocrisy and doublespeak are tools,” The Times editorial board wrote. Oh, well, that’s reassuring. Welcome to the George Orwell Theme Park of Democracy.

Of course neither Trump nor Hillary show any signs of understanding the real problems afflicting the USA. They don’t recognize the basic energy equation that has made it impossible for industrial economies to keep growing, or the deformities in banking and finance that result from official efforts to overcome these implacable conditions, namely, the piling up of ever-greater debt to “solve” the problem of over-indebtedness.

The beginning of the way out of this quandary will be recognition that the federal government is the greatest obstacle for America making the necessary adjustments to a world that has changed. If Trump got elected, I’m convinced that he would be removed from office by a military coup inside of a year, which would be an epic smash-up of our political machinery per se, comparable to the period 44 BCE in Rome, when the republic crashed. Hillary would bring a more measured discredit to the system with the chance that our institutions might be rehabilitated — with the cherry-on-top being Hillary’s eventual impeachment for lying, a fate that her husband and the late Richard Nixon both wiggled out of one way or another.

Kunstler



63 Comments on "Kunstler: Slouching Towards Election Day"

  1. penury on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 10:50 am 

    I agree up to the point where he thinks that there is any up side to a Hilary election. Go back and read the history of what was happening in 44 BCE

  2. Revi on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 11:18 am 

    There is no upside for anyone. We are headed into the toughest period of time anyone has experienced in the US. Hillary is no FDR. Trump certainly isn’t either. It’s not going to be any fun at all.

  3. Just One Opinion on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 11:25 am 

    Kunstler is correct. He is someone giving offering his real estimation of the situation of the political situation we are now in. It doesn’t matter about the exact details of each candidate or their tendencies towards unchecked crime. Even though the general population only knows what the very highly controlled media lets us know, it does seem neither main candidate is capable of the presidential office.
    Wouldn’t it be grand if one of the elder statesman that do exist but you never hear about was promoted as a candidate. You know the kind of person, several “real” degrees in foreign relations, speaks several important languages, has never been associated with crime, perhaps a former military member. It is just a dream for a better future.
    This is what Just One Opinion sees. Two incredibly corrupt people (with a long track record to prove it) that managed through a kind of reality TV to convince many many sheeple to listen to them. When I saw the FBI stating that HC did nothing wrong with her emails, that was the end for me and my interest in this election. When I was in the military and I did something like that, my butt would never again have seen the light of day after leaving the courtroom.

    Just One Opinion Signing Off

  4. IPissOnApeman on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 11:37 am 

    Kunstler is such a moron and a libtard. I like how he is begging for money using patreon. You can clearly see through his writing that he likes Clinton and he wants the statu quo to continue.

    If you want to bring manufacturing back and start the process of self sufficiency,you have to start with trade barrier. This will force US to become self sufficient.

    SO yes that adaption will be painful, but Trump is the only one the will break the current system and maybe force self sufficiency trhoru8se trade barriers.

    Is it what Kunstler wanted all along ?

  5. Apneaman on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 12:22 pm 

    Hey I piss! I piss on your mom and sister right after I ass fuck them with your dad watching.

  6. Apneaman on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 12:33 pm 

    Ronald McDonald or Lucretia Borgia?: In the Long Run, We Are all Dead

    “Let’s not delude ourselves. America is ruled by the Five Cities, Boston, New York, Washington, Tel Aviv, and Hollywood. The rest of us just pay taxes. The heart of the beast is New York, the Ivies being its nursery and Washington its storefront.

    To a practicing curmudgeon, the presidential contest is amusing but unimportant. Hillary will win, whether she wins or not. She is just the wave front of deep and fast-flowing currents of decay that cannot be stopped. Trump may try, but he cannot succeed. We live in a dying culture and, soon, a diminished country. It cannot be saved.”

    http://fredoneverything.org/ready-ronald-mcdonald-or-lucretia-borgia-in-the-long-run-we-are-all-dead/

  7. Kenz300 on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 12:41 pm 

    The family values candidate. Why do they stay with him ? In his own words he said:

    Paid no taxes, divorced how many times, degrades women, does not respect veterans and their families, is making money from his campaign funneling money to his businesses, has questionable charity contributions, filed for bankruptcy multiple times, takes huge tax breaks at the taxpayers expense, flip flops on issues, The top 1% want it all and the RepubliCON party will give it to them.

    A CON man with no moral values.

    This is what the RepubliCON party has become.

  8. peakyeast on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 1:16 pm 

    Ipisson… “sounds” exactly like marmico the fuctard

  9. Sissyfuss on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 1:41 pm 

    Joo,(no pun intended)you want an elder statesman? That’s BAU. Give me an under 50 either gender who understands resource depletion, overpopulation, and climate disruption. Of course, their need to tell the truth about our predicament will make it impossible to lead but that’s what we’re getting anyway from the liars and scoundrels.

  10. beam_me_up on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 3:30 pm 

    Kenz wrote: “The top 1% want it all and the RepubliCON party will give it to them.”

    Kenz, if you think that Democratic Party exists for any reason other than serving it’s own 1% masters, you haven’t been paying attention. Both parties exist for the same reason.

  11. Boat on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 4:35 pm 

    beam_me_up on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 3:30 pm

    Rep’s have always been tied to oil, gas, clean coal, wall street and the military. Dems got wind, solar, health care, environment, education and Hollywood.
    The 1 percent have different parties they support.

  12. Anonymous on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 5:28 pm 

    And boat, has been always been tied to a fantasy world that bears only a passing resemblance, if that, to the one the rest of us inhabit.

  13. Boat on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 6:12 pm 

    Anonymous on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 5:28 pm

    Aren’t you the idiot with the master plan of giving up cars to save the world. Lol good luck with that. Some of us work for a living.

  14. makati1 on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 7:52 pm 

    This “election” is the laughingstock of the world. The real America is being showcased for all to see. Corruption, greed, lies, insanity at the highest levels. Greedy sloths for citizens, sucking st the taxpayer (Fed printing Press) teat until it runs dry or burns up.

    2,700,000+ on the Federal government payroll.
    3,750,000+ State
    10,500,000+ Local
    67,900,000+ on welfare.

    Total = 84,850,000+ sucking at the government teat in one form or another, but does NOT include: Medicaid, Medicare or Social Security. Maybe add: ~70,000,000 on Medicaid? Some probably overlap, but that would about double the welfare number, or about 48% of Americans sucking. NOT including those collecting from their investment in Social Security or Medicare, which would take it over 60%. Then there are farm subsidies, corporate subsidies, etc. Slurp! Slurp! ^_^

    http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/
    http://www.census.gov/govs/apes/

    And still some believe the US is not a 3rd world country. Corruption and greed is the American way!

  15. Sissyfuss on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 8:26 pm 

    Mak, SS is financed by the working men and women who have paid into it for all of their working lives, such as I. Not our fault the politicos robbed it blind. And Boaty, the only bigger oxymoron than clean coal is wise boat, you ox of a moron.

  16. Boat on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 8:30 pm 

    mak,

    I believe in AC, shade tree paved roads, nice neighborhoods, huge varieties of meat, fruit and vegetables. I will compete with you to provide for my family. I will out think, out work, out hustle my competitors to make it happen. You live in slum spawl, I live in suberben sprawl. That is the America I live in and feel like a lottery winner to be born here.
    I gladly pay taxes to feed the hungry and help any fellow American. Your a whiney whimp with little class who must have popcorn comeing out your ass waiting for the crash. I’m thinking cheese cake and looking forward to the future.

  17. Boat on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 8:38 pm 

    mak, trump, duterte

    Foul-mouthed Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has outdone himself once again with public remarks insulting Western allies — only this time, they lack even more clarity than usual.

    “You sons of whores. Your euro, that’s a piece of paper. You run out of toilet paper, you wipe up your ass,” Duterte said on Saturday at a press conference in Davao, according to Agence France-Presse. “You guys are bullshit. Why am I saying this? It sounds the height of vulgarity. You started it.”

  18. makati1 on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 8:40 pm 

    Sissy, we are both in agreement that SS is NOT a dole, but a return on investment we were forced to make over our working lives. I do not feel guilty when much more tax money is totally wasted on wars of choice to support the MIC, not to mention the bloated government payroll.

  19. makati1 on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 8:41 pm 

    Do I hear Boat bleating in the distance? Can’t make out what he is babbling on about. Not important, I am sure. LOL

  20. BillC on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 8:53 pm 

    Trump is just about everthing JK has supported over the years. A leader who will get rid of the evil greedy banksters. Trump has the best energy policy. As usual I agree with you JK. Lets get rid of the banksters. And go from there. Go Trump! Lets make America great again.

    Your conservative friend

    Bill

    Bil

  21. JuanP on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 9:10 pm 

    All this blaming Russia on the part of Americans is getting really old and tiring. The rest of the world can see through this shit clear as day. Americans are turning the whole world into their enemies. The next war is likely to be the USA against every other country on this planet. Even its “allies” will turn against the USA. Americans are running out of friends very fast and the world is sick and tired of them. Pretty soon all the USA will have will be enemies. This is so sad to watch. I wanted to live and die in the USA but I’ve resigned myself to the fact that I will have to go back home. Fuck this shit!

  22. antaris on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 10:50 pm 

    BillC
    A large part of the rest of the world see Trump as a Goof. Goofy as the nut bar in the Philpines. If he won the election , I would bet money that he would have a crown made. He would see himself as King Donald.

  23. makati1 on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 10:59 pm 

    But, the most narcissistic of the two contestants is Hilary by 100%

    “Analysts Socialbakers delved into all things social media from the build up to, and aftermath of, the last debate. When looking at posts on Facebook and Twitter by the candidates and their teams, one interesting aspect surfaces. When it comes to talking about themselves, Clinton is around twice as likely to mention herself as Trump is himself.”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-24/narcissistsrus-guess-which-presidential-candidate-likes-talk-about-themselves-most

    Killary is the one most stuck on herself as the next Queen .. er .. President of the Empire. Not to mention that she is nutty as a fruit cake.

  24. antaris on Mon, 24th Oct 2016 11:10 pm 

    They are both nutty fruitcake’s. And both very deadly.

  25. Survivalist on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 1:41 am 

    I quite like JHK. I find him informative, witty and entertaining. He has good guests on his interview show too. I’m surprised he doesn’t work for a major publication. Maybe he did and now he’s retired, I dunno. I do know that he is better at writing, and doing it for free, than most folks who are that expect to get paid for it. I wish him the best.

  26. makati1 on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 1:49 am 

    antaris, I agree, but I’ll take a Trump question mark before a proven psychotic, war mongering, corporate lap dog, liar and law breaker, like Killary.

  27. makati1 on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 1:56 am 

    “So the next time you find yourselves despondent over the 2016 presidential candidates, remember that it’s just a puppet show intended to distract you from the silent coup being carried out by America’s shadow government.”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-24/path-total-dictatorship-americas-shadow-government-and-its-silent-coup

    “The next president, much like the current president and his predecessors, will be little more than a figurehead, a puppet to entertain and distract the populace from what’s really going on.”

    ““Today the path to total dictatorship in the U.S. can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by Congress, the President, or the people.”

    And the big day is less than two weeks away!

    I wonder what would happen if they held an election and no one came? LOL

  28. GregT on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 2:42 am 

    ““You sons of whores. Your euro, that’s a piece of paper. You run out of toilet paper, you wipe up your ass,” Duterte said on Saturday at a press conference in Davao, according to Agence France-Presse. “You guys are bullshit. Why am I saying this? It sounds the height of vulgarity. You started it.”

    Sounds about right……..

  29. GregT on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 3:06 am 

    “I believe in AC, shade tree paved roads, nice neighborhoods, huge varieties of meat, fruit and vegetables.”

    You failed to mention the part about two cars in every garage Boat. The American dream.

    “The reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it.” (or really fucking stupid)

    George Carlin, RIP (text in quotes are mine Kevin)

  30. dooma on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 6:03 am 

    I will be SO FUCKING GLAD when this freak show is finally over. I live in the Southern Hemisphere but feel like another state of the US. EVERY NIGHT ON OUR MSM. Blah Blah Blah.

    Shame on Kunstler for backing Hillary but, I guess he has not many options. Intelligent Americans must feel totally dismayed at this point.

    And when that circus clown smiling hag gets in, you are going to get a real good dose of “Russian aggression, Russian aggression” as the next (and probably the final war) is initiated.

    And yes, RIP George Carlin and Bill Hicks.

  31. JuanP on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 7:38 am 

    The fact that Kunstler can’t understand and accept that Clinton is an extremely dangerous, murdering, narcissistic, psychopathic bitch is irrefutable proof of his limitations. Hillary is more dangerous than Trump by a mile and saying voting for her would be better than voting for Trump because she is part of the political establishment and that way they will get all the blame is intellectually dishonest. I like Kunstler but where Clinton is concerned his bias is obvious.

  32. JuanP on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 7:44 am 

    Dooma, I don’t watch TV, read Western papers, websites, or magazines, or listen to the radio. I live in the USA and can barely tell that this is an election year other than for reading a couple of things here at PO and a comment or two in my conversations now and then. When I tell people that I don’t believe in democracy and think that it is a stupid political system they usually stop talking about this shit immediately and go back to talking about plants and animals. The people that know me know better than to try and get me to talk about this bullshit.

  33. Kenz300 on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 1:55 pm 

    The top 1% want it all….. and the RepubliCON party will give it to them

    What do RepubliCONS believe depends who is paying, follow the money, fossil fuels, oil, coal, natural gas, nuclear, the top 1%

    Are RepubliCONS the real EVIL DOERS They want to end Social Security, Medicare and access to contraception
    RepubliCONS are the reason the middle class is shrinking.. In the past the top 1% wanted to import all the cheap labor they could get Now the people are finally waking up but they do not realize they have been conned by the RepubliCONS.

    The RepubliCON elite want cheap labor.

    They are no friend of the middle class

  34. Anonymous on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 2:08 pm 

    lols@Kenzbot

  35. GregT on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 2:21 pm 

    The top 1% are doing everything in their power to install Hilliary Kenz. Now why do you suppose that would be?

  36. Apneaman on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 2:26 pm 

    Greg, isn’t Trump in the top 1%? A lifetime club member? Just think if Trump loses y’all have another 4 years of making up false hope for the next fake saviour.

  37. Ghung on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 2:31 pm 

    JuanP said ” The fact that Kunstler can’t understand and accept that Clinton is an extremely dangerous, murdering, narcissistic, psychopathic bitch is irrefutable proof of his limitations.”

    WTF, Juan? Are you talking about the guy who wrote the following in just the last couple of months?

    ….the present case in the USA displays both qualities to near-perfection: on one side, a boorish pseudo-savior in zero command of ideas; on the other side, a wannabe racketeer-in-chief in full command of her instinctive deceit. Trump offers incoherent rhetoric in opposition to the current dismal order of things; Clinton offers empty, pandering rhetoric in defense of that order. Both represent an epic national drive toward political suicide…..

    ….Vote for Trump? Not if you chained me to the back bumper of a Toyota Landcruiser and dragged me over six miles of broken light bulbs. Hillary? Make that nine miles, and throw down some carpet tacks…..

    ….Why do this for Hillary? Because she represents the continuity of all the current rackets being used to prop up belief in the foundering business model of western civilization….

    ….And so the great disaster movie of 2016 commences: Godzilla Versus Rodan the Flying Reptile. Which one will survive to completely destroy the sclerotic remains of our nation?”

    Maybe you should pay more attention to what people actually say before commenting. Kustler’s disgust with Clinton goes way back, and is thoroughly documented:

    http://kunstler.com/writings/clusterfuck-nation/

  38. Apneaman on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 2:40 pm 

    Watch the embedded video – straight from the flip flopping horse’s mouth.

    Every one of you Trump backers was conned. And every one of the Trump enablers (Hannity, Coulter, Rush, etc) knew you were being conned.

    https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/790922783563841536

    They know (through various means) exactly what people want to hear and every election they tell their targeted groups exactly that and the suckers keep falling for it over and over and over and over, but boy do the ever hopeful sheeple tribes come up with some whoppers why this time it’s different or why their guy/girl is the right choice. The internet has only made it easier to play y’all. They are laughing at you and not even hiding it. Get ready, lube up and Bend over. Don’t matter who wins, if you’re not in the club, you’re getting fucked…….again.

  39. Apneaman on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 2:42 pm 

    DOTE Alert — It’s Official, The United States Has Turned To Shit

    http://www.declineoftheempire.com/2016/10/dote-alert-its-official-the-united-states-has-turned-to-shit.html

  40. Apneaman on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 2:51 pm 

    Americans don’t trust anyone or anything

    http://qz.com/684070/americans-dont-trust-anyone-or-anything/

    Regardless of who wins the fake election the racketeering will continue and the tribal divisions will only widen.

  41. Davy on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 3:56 pm 

    Clinton and her criminal establishment must be broken up. If it takes electing Trump so be it. The real threat to this country is Clinton as a known criminal. Screw the idea of a continuation of this racket is our best “bad” option. I am for disruption and let the fucking chips fall where they may. This liberal democratic circle jerk of criminality of the media, political institutions, and business is disgusting and must be stopped. It has always been apparent corruption has run this country but never has it been so consuming with well oiled organization and pervasiveness as it is today.

    Trump is a wack-job but that is what is needed to hack through the webs of deceit. He may be no better and maybe even worse but that is still largely unknown. I would never in a million years vote Trump for obvious reason but I may do it this year. The filthy Clinton revelations of the past month is too much. Just imagine how bad the full story is. Imagine all that was not done by emails but done in secret and in person. Voting Trump may be like calling in air strikes on your own position when overrun by the enemy, yet, better to see destructive change with honer than in disgrace of acquiescence.

  42. Boat on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 4:01 pm 

    ape,

    Weird maybe but not fake. My candidate will get at least 1 vote. Ernest Moniz

  43. Apneaman on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 5:03 pm 

    Davy, sounds like a you and others are turning the old adage around to “better the devil you don’t know than the one you do”. Maybe Trump will win and do some of those things and maybe he won’t. He has no political service record to speak of, so faith is required for the believers in his promises (how many election promises ever come to pass? – I know different this time…Yawn). As for his record in the rest of his very public life, it don’t take a trained up psychiatrist to spot a pathological liar especially when so much of it is on the record. Faith indeed. As for the witch, her political malfeasance is clear and it would make my day if she had a seizure and died at the podium on inauguration day (foaming at the mouth would be a bonus). I guess if she wins all we will hear around here for the next four years is how awesome it would have been if trump won and how every single thing that goes wrong can be directly attributed to Hillary. Funny how an all powerful shot calling POTUS all of the sudden contradicts all the other “theories” around here of all powerful Jew banker/financier cabals (like Trumps son in law & family). It can’t be both now can it? Either “they” control most of the power or they don’t. Trump must have super powers if he can get elected and walk all over them or maybe they do not exist as imagined? Maybe it involves a lot more than just a few rich jews. Seems like the collection of folks who actually run the country, the deep state are the ones who will lose if real changes are made. What’s that? More like “the 10%” spread over every bureaucracy and industry with all the richest fucks (.1%) at the helm. Oh well desperate times call for desperate fantasies.

  44. Apneaman on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 5:11 pm 

    Boat never heard of the guy. Funny the last time y’all had a potus with an ounce of decency, Jimmy Carter, he too was a nuclear guy. Must be a science thing – trained to deal in facts as opposed to rhetoric like the lawyer scum. Did you ever see his sweater address and others? Ran him out of town for telling the truth. Now comes the consequences and predicaments. Hope y’all enjoyed the final party.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4161905/jimmy-carter-sweater

  45. Anonymous on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 5:41 pm 

    Enjoy your fake, make-believe ‘election’ boat.

    Remember amerikans, your vote counts

    …..for nothing.

  46. Davy on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 5:48 pm 

    The deep state will live on no matter who wins. The swamp is too deep. The bar has been lowered for acceptable corruption and it does not matter who wins in this regards. We all lost already. This is why moral hazard is called moral hazard.

    Trump will be an unknown quantity. He has no political history to refer to. He is unpredictable and narcissistic so he will be difficult for the establishment to corrupt as has been done with Clinton. One thing is certain and that is many enemies have been made and the public polarized. It is likely business as usual will be more difficult now that people know the truth behind the lies. It is likely some form of civil war is ahead. Maybe not hot but destructive nonetheless. When people are suffering lies and criminality are much more difficult to digest.

  47. Ghung on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 6:01 pm 

    Anonymous said; “Remember amerikans, your vote counts

    …..for nothing.”

    Bullshit. I consider my local elections to be very important, and the assholes who packed our State General Assembly with Tea Party Republicans really screwed things up over the last 8 years. The consequences have been very real. I won’t even bother to list them. Some of these elections have been very close.

  48. Boat on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 6:24 pm 

    Davy,

    Why don’t you tell us what you know about the deep state.

  49. Davy on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 7:02 pm 

    Boat, when was I elected your mentor? Use your imagination, sprinkle in some facts and take off your flag waiving glasses for starters.

  50. IPissOnApneaman on Tue, 25th Oct 2016 7:23 pm 

    Kunstler has probably been paid to promote Hillary Clinton. The whole essay look like a disguised publicity. Especially the part where he says Trump will be removed by the army. Funny because of lot of generals support Trump over Clinton.

    Same thing is going on YouTube where Hillary paid popular blogger to promote her. The last example of that is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjS6OdY2dBQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jva3c7mVvc

    Kunstler is just a cheap whore. People are starting to say that blogger are just cheap whore This is why people stop commenting on blogs lately

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