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Is ‘Decarbonization’ a Fool’s Errand?

The great fossil fuel hysteria of 2019 is remarkable as much for the rapidity with which the fervor has swept the landscape as for the long-term consequences it promises to wreak. Popular madnesses with a financial twist are nothing new, dating back to the era of tulip-bulb mania. This region, in its short history, has seen a few of them — the Klondike gold rush, the dot-com stock boom.

Those, like most, burned themselves out in short order, with rewards for a few and disappointment and loss for most. But the rush to “decarbonize” the American economy, energy system and society is a different phenomenon.

It’s driven not by the masses looking to capitalize on the mirage of a great opportunity. Rather, it’s more the product of eco-celebrities and elites swanning around the globe hectoring the masses about the doom that awaits them from unremedied climate change. And it offers no promises of great wealth (outside of a few hucksters promoting the Green New Deal). If anything, the bill is going to be huge, and everyone will get to share.

The decarbonization movement does share qualities with other popular delusions, in that the fevered pursuit leaves little time for asking, much less answering, some pertinent questions — never mind the cosmic questions about climate change’s direction, intensity or cause, and whether proposed remedies would have any actual impact on the climate.

There are more ground-level, real-world questions to be researched and resolved before charging off into a carbon-free future. Such as: Are home water and space heating, from an energy efficiency and density standpoint, the best applications for electricity? Is the grid ready for massive injections of unstable, undispatchable, unschedulable renewable power supplies on one end and massive, variable demands for it on the other end?

And most crucially, especially here in the Northwest, is there enough generating capacity to handle the increased demand for electricity for home space and water heating, and transportation, as well as population and business growth? With retirements of coal-fired generating capacity in the Northwest, such as TransAlta’s Centralia plant, the Northwest Power and Conservation Council is sounding warnings about supply adequacy in the next decade. (The increased calls to take more hydropower out of the system won’t help.)

In recent years, the easy answer would have been to add some gas-fired generating capacity, which offers the multiple attributes of being comparatively quick, simple and inexpensive to deploy, and which could provide a reliable base to firm up the use of solar and wind.

But natural gas, as recently as a few months ago regarded as a hero fuel for helping drive away Demon Coal and reducing greenhouse-gas emissions, is now on the list of substances not to be produced or used. Seattle City Council’s consideration of a ban on natural gas in new residential construction for heating is part of the broad stampede.

The experts have guessed wrong about energy before: Peak oil was not just inevitable, it was already here; nuclear power would produce electricity in an abundance too cheap to meter. The belief that a decarbonized energy system will be cleaner, cheaper, more reliable and supply-adequate seems destined for the same fate. For Washington, that means more expensive power, negating one of its competitive economic advantages. Consumers will feel the bite too, given electricity accounts for a larger share of home heating (another legacy of cheap hydropower) here than the rest of the country.

The state also is likely to wind up as part of a bifurcated national energy system, as divided as the nation’s politics are now. Those parts of the country with natural gas production and greater use are unlikely to be interested in wrecking their economies just to indulge a few coastal politicians’ latest fetish.

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109 Comments on "Is ‘Decarbonization’ a Fool’s Errand?"

makati1 on Fri, 13th Dec 2019 6:47 pm

There will be no “carbon free” future as long as humans are still on the planet and living. We have been burning things since we discovered fire. That will not end until we do. All we can do is endure to that end. Buckle up!

Davy on Fri, 13th Dec 2019 6:55 pm

wow, finally the old man barfs out a comment but not much of one. Just a little of his know it all BS that comes one in one or two liners.

full woke supremacist muzzies jerk on Fri, 13th Dec 2019 8:27 pm

Davy on Fri, 13th Dec 2019 6:55 pm
above is supertard obv.
everyone pls be respectful to supertard

REAL Green on Fri, 13th Dec 2019 8:47 pm

Shut-up already, Davy.

I hate your fucking guts.

I would pay a king’s ransom to meet you in an alley for just five minutes.

JuanP is stupid on Fri, 13th Dec 2019 8:59 pm

Stupid, you are mindless and stupid they harder you act on you obsessions the more pathetic you become.

This is stupid:
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Anonymouse on Fri, 13th Dec 2019 10:56 pm

Shut up Davy retard. Mak can say anything he wants, since being ‘on-topic’ around here is completely optional, in case you and KLOGGEDrectum hadn’t noticed. Coming from the (2nd) biggest troll, sock stupid and bully here, you are just about the last lunatic to pass any judgements on what qualifies as a comment.

You should try reading your own digital diarrhea once in a while, dumbass.

Davy on Fri, 13th Dec 2019 11:24 pm

My diarrhea smells and tastes like a smooth caramel covered chocolate fudge pudding. I love the smell and taste of my own shit.

stupid

makati1 on Fri, 13th Dec 2019 11:55 pm

“wow, finally the old man barfs out a comment but not much of one. Just a little of his know it all BS that comes one in one or two liners.”

This “old man” gets his meaning across in a few sentences, not verbal diarrhea like you attempt and fail. my assertions can be backed up with non-USMSM refs and are not usually new to anyone with two brain cells that are active. Too bad you do not have those.

BTW: Educated people start a sentence with a CAPITALIZED word, grade school drop-out. LOL

BTW: I take “old man” as a compliment. You will never make it to my 75 years.

makati1 on Fri, 13th Dec 2019 11:57 pm

Oops! I missed the caps on “my”. Gotta proof-read more often. Spellcheck is an idiot.

Cloggie on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 12:03 am

EU reaffirms Green New Deal for Europe: complete decarbonization before 2050. Backward Poland (80% coal) gets opt-out:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/13/european-green-deal-to-press-ahead-despite-polish-targets-opt-out

European Green Deal to press ahead despite Polish targets opt-out

Poland opts out of 2050 net-zero emissions after hours of wrangling over timetables and money

Europe wants to land first on the renewable energy moon. They will, they have ze Germans.

https://images.app.goo.gl/NonPPtJyhbtSjB5r5

JuanP stupidity on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 2:21 am

Where is stupid? Are you there?

Not talking about you this time cloggo

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 4:02 am

“Woman Who Spent $100,000 To Look Like “Blowup Doll” Is Facing Complications From Cosmetic Surgeries”
https://tinyurl.com/ul4u33r zero hedge

“A woman who, by age 24, has had $100,000 worth of cosmetic surgery to make herself look like a “blowup doll” is now suffering from complications. According to the NY Post, Mary Magdalene has modified her body with a brow lift, three nose jobs, cheek and lip fat transfers, three boob jobs, 20 dental veneers, “Brazilian butt lifts,” numerous lip fillers and a “custom-designed” vagina.”

“She is on a quest to acquire “the fattest labia in the world,” “

““I have been making paintings with my vagina. So this surgery has really inspired me to be more creative as well,” she said”

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 4:07 am

“Should The NRA’s Next Spokesperson Be A Teenager?”
https://tinyurl.com/sw5erjp zero hedge

“I find most personal attacks on teen Swedish climate activist and newly minted TIME Person of the Year Greta Thunberg to be boorish, tactless and unnecessary. Even more so when the leader of the free world is up in early hours of the morning tweeting about her simply out of what appears to be press envy. President Trump’s weird obsession with TIME magazine transcends decades, so his latest jab at Thunberg is unsurprising.”

Cloggie on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 5:07 am

Michael Heseltine, who famously warned that Brexit would mean that “Germany would win WW2”, has admitted defeat:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7791929/EU-membership-talk-killed-TWENTY-years-admits-ex-Tory-Michael-Heseltine.html

“EU membership talk has been killed off for at least TWENTY years admits Remainer ex-Tory minister Michael Heseltine as he humiliatingly admits: ‘We’ve lost, Brexit is going to happen'”

Forget it mr Heseltine, this is terminal. Scotland and Northern-Ireland, yes, England no.

‘And of course, you know, you can’t escape the devastating result for Northern Ireland and Scotland, so the agenda is not going away.’

It remains to be seen that after the UK has left the EU (January?) the EU will continue to be open for a trade deal that would allow Britain to prosper, while undermining the rationale for the EU itself. There is a reason why Macron, falsely accused of being a “Rothschild agent”, is so keen to open up to Russia, while calling “NATO brain-dead”: he wants to prepare the ground for a new power-block, to be implemented as soon as the US begins to stumble. I wouldn’t be surprised if Macron would veto a trade arrangement with Britain, to is too favorable for the UK.

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/ryanair-general-election-boris-johnson-cheap-flights-single-market-a9245891.html

“RYANAIR BOSS PREDICTS BORIS JOHNSON’S EU DEAL WILL BE ‘BREXIT IN NAME ONLY’”

Indeed. It is one thing to leave the EU, getting a good deal quite another. For BoJo, Brexit was a vehicle only to become PM, his only real ambition, piggy-backing on the work of Farage, a real Brexiteer.

He now IS PM. BoJo flirting with no-deal Brexit as a bargaining strategy, could inadvertently bring him just that, when the EU calls his bluff. The UK is free to go, dictating the terms of the deal not so much.

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 5:10 am

Hey cloggo, have you seen stupid around anywhere?

Cloggie on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 5:24 am

There you go:

https://www.rt.com/newsline/475828-macron-britain-eu-competition/

“Macron warns Britain against ‘unfair’ competition with EU after Brexit”

Macron warns the British not to have too high expectations.

“My hope is that the United Kingdom remains an ally, a friend and an extremely close partner. The condition is to define the rules of a fair relationship,” Macron said after an EU summit in Brussels. “We do not want Britain to be an unfair competitor.”

It will take some time to sink in that the UK has become a geopolitical competitor, that will try to break up the EU.

https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2019/04/27/barnier-verhofstadt-farage-wants-to-destroy-the-eu/

Deal the first blow and quietly sabotage a deal, any deal.

The UK has ZOG-USA to fall back on, we have Russia and in the background China and the New Silk Road, providing all the prosperity we will ever need. Make the U-turn towards Eurasia and make Eurasia the center of the world once again and erase the dollar from Eurasia. And have an army available to intervene in North-America when the impeachment circus will turn ugly and CW2 will be a fact.

Boris wins on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 5:30 am

Too bad Clogged…. Boris cleaned your clock in the UJ.

JuanP is stupid on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 5:35 am

More nightly stupid. Stupid is going down the drain into madness. Takes a lot of planning and effort to be stupid at this scale. He could try to be smarter because that is what people do when they want to improve. He isn’t that smart but he could make an effort and show others common respect.

This is from stupid:
Davy said Hey cloggo, have you seen stupid around anywhere?

Davy said well majece, just the other day I managed to write…

Davy said “Should The NRA’s Next Spokesperson Be A Tee…

Davy said “Woman Who Spent $100,000 To Look Like “Blow…

JuanP stupidity said Where is stupid? Are you there? Not talking about…

Davy said My diarrhea smells and tastes like a smooth carame…

Anonymouse said Shut up Davy retard. Mak can say anything he wants…

Davy said And obviously I wouldn’t be accusing you of…

REAL Green said Thanks Davy. We’re the bestest most stupidest pers…

T. Tobias on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 5:35 am

You are a pathetic internet troll, Davy, in that you spend every waking moment trying to influence NOBODY. Hell, there’s not a single individual who desires to engage you in conversation.

You are indeed a sad and pathetic little clown.

Cloggie on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 5:35 am

Farage knows BoJo’s intentions and correctly fears an easy “surrender” by BoJo:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7791593/Nigel-Farage-says-concerned-form-UK-s-departure-EU.html

“Nigel Farage warns Boris Johnson against pursuing ‘easy option of a soft Brexit’ after Tories’ landslide election victory”

It remains to be seen if BoJo seriously wants to harm 40% of its exports. The EU would be hurt too, but they want to protect their political project at all cost.

JuanP is stupid on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 5:42 am

stupid is up and very mad

this is stupid:
T. Tobias said You are a pathetic internet troll, Davy, in that y…

Cloggie on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 5:46 am

Too bad Clogged…. Boris cleaned your clock in the UJ.

How that? Europe just got rid of the British Trojan horse in Europe, who volunteered to auto-deport itself from the white world. They always blocked a European defense and rapprochement with Russia, they no longer can. I have been a Gaullist all my life and couldn’t believe my luck when my Brother whatssapped me in 2016 in the middle of the night that Brexit had prevailed.

Anglos are owned by the youknowwho and as such are the enemies of Europeans world-wide, mostly for themselves. Fortunately they are being erased from history by uncle Schmull through third world immigration. Just read the posts by I AM THE KIKE, gloating about Anglo demise and NO ANGLO HERE LIFTS A FINGER. Anglos quietly hate to be phased out, but remain loyal to Schmull regardless, because they love to be on top of the world… for a few more years, while tout Eurasia is working towards the overthrow of the Five Eyes.

In 2000 I was depressed and thought that the NWO was inevitable. From that point in time until now my geopolitical mood steadily increased. Now I am more upbeat than ever. Eurasia is going to win. Anglos are finished. Death by suicide.

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 5:46 am

“It will take some time to sink in that the UK has become a geopolitical competitor, that will try to break up the EU.”

LOL, cloggo’s Eurotard land is balkanizing and so he references his favorite globalist, Macron. Cloggo, the south is in competition with the north and the east with the west. You do not have a United States, dummy

“The UK has ZOG-USA to fall back on, we have Russia and in the background China and the New Silk Road, providing all the prosperity we will ever need. Make the U-turn towards Eurasia and make Eurasia the center of the world once again and erase the dollar from Eurasia. And have an army available to intervene in North-America when the impeachment circus will turn ugly and CW2 will be a fact.”

LMFAO, cloggo says this once a day sometimes sever times a day because he is here so much.

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 5:49 am

“Too bad Clogged…. Boris cleaned your clock in the UJ.”

cloggo pumped out pages after pages on brexit stuff and most of it was garbage but the cloggo always keeps a brave face on it all.

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 5:52 am

“It remains to be seen if BoJo seriously wants to harm 40% of its exports. The EU would be hurt too, but they want to protect their political project at all cost.”

Now that reality is sinking in the cloggo admits to reality that Brexit is going to hurt eurotardland. Now is a very bad time for more hurt because eurotardland is already hurting more than any other major economic region.

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:04 am

I have to interrupt you PBM fantasies for a moment cloggo, but I need to know.

You know where stupid is?

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:12 am

Cloggo can’t stand that we’re still number one.
https://tinyurl.com/y2n2sqf5

LMFAO!

JuanP is stupid on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:12 am

hi stupid

this is from mindless and stupid:

Davy said I have to interrupt you PBM fantasies for a moment…

Cloggie on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:14 am

“LOL, cloggo’s Eurotard land is balkanizing”

How? We “lost” the enemy of continental Europe that was responsible for WW1 and WW2. How is that a loss?

“and so he references his favorite globalist, Macron.”

Define “globalist”. Macron opening up to Russia is a very anti-globalist thing to do. I AM THE KIKE posted a Foreign Policy link, showing they were alarmed.

“Cloggo, the south is in competition with the north and the east with the west. You do not have a United States, Cloggmeister, sir””

Do you have a “United States”? LOL

The only one who is really balkanizing is the US, not Europe. Russia is desperate to join and Macron has picked up the signals.

“I have to interrupt you PBM fantasies for a moment cloggo, but I need to know.”

All you did was expressing your wishful thinking. Hate to break it to you, but 195 aging US whites, led by the nose by 8 million jews and henpecked by 125 million darkies, are not going to dominate the planet much longer and certainly not 2000 million Eurasians. And BoJo won’t make any difference.

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:16 am

“Mercedes Delays Electric Debut After Jaguar and Audi SUVs Flop”
https://tinyurl.com/uwy7e7r Bloomberg

“Mercedes-Benz is putting off the U.S. debut of its first electric vehicle by a year in the latest sign of just how difficult a time automakers are having replicating Tesla Inc.’s success. Daimler AG’s luxury brand will start sales of the EQC crossover in 2021 rather than early next year. The German carmaker said in an emailed statement that it’s made the strategic decision to first support growing demand for the model in Europe, where deliveries began earlier this year. The world’s top-seller of premium autos has touted the EQC and the series of battery-powered models it has planned under the EQ sub-brand as an answer both to Tesla and its traditional rivals. But the initial electric vehicles Jaguar and Audi introduced in the U.S. market this year have underwhelmed on the sales charts, failing to keep up even with Tesla’s years-old Model S and X…Jaguar has sold 2,418 I-Pace SUVs in the U.S. this year through November, while Audi has delivered 4,623 e-tron crossovers, according to InsideEVs. By contrast, the website estimates that Tesla has sold about 111,650 Model 3 sedans.”

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:23 am

I referenced the above article because we all know Bloomberg is a Jewish oligarch and the Jews are manipulating our media. There getting REAL desperate now that Trump has taken over. I bet they even try to impeach him.

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:24 am

Stupid is so stupid its stupid. Its only 6am and I’ve already whupped his ass, LMAO.

REAL Green on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:27 am

Is whupped a REAL wurd Davy? Or did we just make it up?

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:29 am

STFU Green. Your not helping.

stupid

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:31 am

“LOL, cloggo’s Eurotard land is balkanizing” How? We “lost” the enemy of continental Europe that was responsible for WW1 and WW2. How is that a loss?” You forgot the rest of Europe there cloggo. Hitler is responsible for ww2

“and so he references his favorite globalist, Macron.” “Define “globalist”. Macron opening up to Russia is a very anti-globalist thing to do. I AM THE KIKE posted a Foreign Policy link, showing they were alarmed.”
He is a globalist and a Rothchild stooge. Most intelligent people know this.

“Cloggo, the south is in competition with the north and the east with the west. You do not have a United States, Cloggmeister, sir”” “Do you have a “United States”? LOL”
We have never had a United States but that is what makes us united. What I mean by that is there is room for differences and the ability to migrate to where your way of life fits. Europe is defined by its nation borders, language, and different cultures. Increasingly the drive towards a federalist eurotardland is having a balkanizing effect because euros don’t want to be federalized except for the power-hungry bureaucratic mongrels in Brussels. Restive regions within nations have been given cause by the federalist approach and this is another balkanization within nations. East/West and North/South tensions are fully evident economically. Your eurotardland is a mess cloggo.

“The only one who is really balkanizing is the US, not Europe. Russia is desperate to join and Macron has picked up the signals.”
There is no desperation from Russia to join anything. Russia is doing well to be on its own and a gatekeeper but also a disrupter where necessary for Russian security between Asia and Europe. Europe is a mess why would Russia want to get caught up in that

“I have to interrupt you PBM fantasies for a moment cloggo, but I need to know.”
AH, cloggo, that was from your buddy, stupid. You do realize JuanP is stupid or are you playing stupid yourself.

“All you did was expressing your wishful thinking. Hate to break it to you, but 195 aging US whites, led by the nose by 8 million jews and henpecked by 125 million darkies, are not going to dominate the planet much longer and certainly not 2000 million Eurasians. And BoJo won’t make any difference.”
There you go again with those fantasy numbers cloggo “2000” million” LMFAO. Eurasians are a joke concept the way you define them, cloggo. There is no uniformity at all in Eurasia. You are trying very hard to keep them out cloggo. Eurasians want in and your horrible demographics are going to let them in. Bye bye whitey domination is what your 2000 million Eurasians mean. No dummy, I am not pro-bye bye whitey like the MOBster and am just giving you a dose of reality that you can’t deal with.

Cloggie on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:32 am

Too good to be true:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7791905/People-didnt-trust-country-Ex-Labour-MP-Anna-Turley-blasts-Jeremy-Corbyn.html

“‘Sorrow has moved on to anger’: Labour MPs and union baron Len McCluskey gun for ‘metropolitan’ Jeremy Corbyn in party civil war after election humiliation as former ‘Red Wall’ MP says voters ‘didn’t trust him'”

Jeremy Corbyn represented a rare left-wing uprising attempt against the power of the infamous “Friends of Israel” lobby, the British variant of AIPAC. Expect Corbyn to be toppled and Labour to return to a more Blairite, globalist, capitalist, oligarch-friendly and Remain-dominant party. Not that it matters in the short term. The next five years are for BoJo and for him to realize George Orwell’s geopolitical vision:

https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/which-future-world/

The map at the bottom is now default, this is going to happen anyway. The division of the world in 4 major blocks: Judaic State (Anglosphere, mongrelized), PBM (white race Christian), China, “disputed territories” (Islam).

The only way Anglos can escape from the jews and join European mainstream, is via an uprising (CW2). If that doesn’t happen, Orwell’s distopian Oceania will become reality and the next USSR. Same (((people))), same motivations.

Ah well, their (Anglo) problem.

We Europeans have our home and civilization back.

JuanP is stupid on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:33 am

Mindless and stupid

This is from stupid:
Davy said STFU Green. Your not helping. stupid

REAL Green said Is whupped a REAL wurd Davy? Or did we just make i…

Davy said Stupid is so stupid its stupid. Its only 6am and I…

Davy said I referenced the above article because we all know…

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:36 am

IMA cloggo. The Rothchilds are Jewish oligarchs too.

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:36 am

“The map at the bottom is now default, this is going to happen anyway. The division of the world in 4 major blocks: Judaic State (Anglosphere, mongrelized), PBM (white race Christian), China, “disputed territories” (Islam).”

cloggo’s kindergarten map he puts out twice a month. You would think he might wise up to how stupid it looks but no, he references it routinely. This has been going on for years despite reality not conforming to this fantasy

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:36 am

As acting moderator, I ban stupid. His stupid sock games have driven away all the smart people. Like Boat, and Rockman. Once the stupid ban goes into effect, Boat and Rockman will come back, and the board will be smart again. Not stupid like it is now.

Stupid is banned, LMAO. Say goodbye to stupid makatoo and annoy and Richard Gillete and all the other stupids.

You’re next. All you stupids.

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:37 am

What’s AIPAC clog?

JuanP is stupid on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:37 am

stupid and boring

this is from stupid:
Davy said As acting moderator, I ban stupid. His stupid sock…

Davy said IMA cloggo. The Rothchilds are Jewish oligarchs to…

JuanP is stupid on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:39 am

well stupid is on a role I will wait a little and reference his stupidity. Go head stupid post away. I am very happy you are insane and stupid. VICTORY. Another dumbass low IQ fool has lost it.

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:42 am

Dont you all find it odd how stupid drove away brilliant minds like Boat and KenZ, but, for some reason, he seems to have no effect on cloggo at all. I dont it understand it really. The whole thing sounds kind of stupid if you ask me. It doesn’t matter anymore, since I just banned stupid. He’s toast. He’s gone like my goats and chickens.

Cloggie on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:43 am

“You forgot the rest of Europe there cloggo. Hitler is responsible for ww2”

I have explained many times in detail that Germany and Europe were set up for war by the US. You never refuted that, you were too scared to even begin a discussion. All you do is repeating the kosher propaganda lies. Perhaps it is better to give up on white America altogether. Too hopeless. I think I will give you to I AM THE MOB and anonymouse so they can sodomize you. Exactly what white traitors like you deserve. Nobody likes you.

https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/25/chamberlain-and-the-forrestal-diaries/

“He is a globalist and a Rothchild stooge. Most intelligent people know this.”

Now your proof. You have none other than the idiots from Infowars. Globalists do not hook up with Russians. Macron does.

“Eurasians are a joke concept the way you define them”

Dullards like you only believe in the status quo and that it will remain the same for ever. Europe and China have a common interest to see you go, so they can advance on the geopolitical ladder, just like you and your Soviet buddies teamed up to get Europe destroyed. No need for upfront formal alliances.

https://www.axios.com/china-european-union-alliance-united-states-tariffs-619e4fac-9a40-4eb0-a62f-d0a02f6a94ca.html

“China pushes Europe for trade alliance against U.S.”

I think you are facing a USSR-1991-style downfall.

REAL Green on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:45 am

We should try to be honest sometimes Davy.

We need to change are grampers.

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:46 am

cloggo I am a little busy cleaning up the board from stupids stink to deal with your usual stink right now. Let me finishing cleaning up stupids stink, and Ill get right on beating you senseless. Sound good cloggo?

Davy on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 6:50 am

“I think you are facing a USSR-1991-style downfall”

Russia still has a huge surplus of fossil fuels cloggo.

We don’t. We won’t be coming back.

Darrell Cloud on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 7:05 am