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How Donald Trump saved Civilization (and lost the planet)

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“Call it the Third Middle East Oil Shock.”

The controversy swirling around murdered Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi has been moving Congress towards sending to the White House an Act* imposing broad sanctions on Saudi Arabia, effectively scrapping billions in pending arms sales.

Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said, “The kingdom and all involved in this brutal murder must be held accountable, and if the Trump administration will not take the lead, Congress must.”

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In internal discussions, Mr. Kushner has urged the president and his aides not to abandon Prince Mohammed. But as Turkish officials leaked details of the grisly killing of Mr. Khashoggi and of the dismemberment of his body, the White House has become increasingly isolated in its defense of Saudi Arabia.

Take a moment and picture this scenario.
Caving to his image-advisors and pollsters who fret about a Blue Tide surging into key states, POTUS inks the sanctions.
As its merchantile supply line begins to dry up, Saudi Arabia does not blink. It does precisely what it said it would do. It retaliates by hitting the world where it hurts most: the oil supply.
For decades Saudi Arabia has been OPEC’s swing vote, able to turn up or down the light sweet crude flowing to international markets. No other producers have either the reserves or production to control the volume and thereby the price of petroleum.
Suppose they tightened the spigot. It would not be enough to merely reduce the flow. If they have learned anything in their years of military alliance with the Great Satan, it is the tactic of Shock and Awe. They close the valves. All of them. Call it the Third Middle East Oil Shock.
In spite of a record production year for the cartel of 32.78 million b/d, US sanctions on Iranian oil and deteriorating output from Venezuela have already begun pushing prices towards $100/barrel. Demand might be marginally slowing in climate-minded Europe or in economically stressed Turkey, Brazil, and Argentina, but in North America and Asia, oil consumption is still on an exponential trajectory. Despite the US’s shale oil production having increased at a spectacular annualized rate of over 5 million b/d (estimated), the hole created by Saudi Arabia’s withdrawal, accompanied by withdrawal of like supplies from its Middle Eastern OPEC neighbors out of enforced loyalty, would dwarf anything POTUS might have thought he held as a hole card.
Economic ripples became waves. Waves became a tsunami. The price of oil shoots to $400/b virtually overnight. It would take some weeks for that price to pass through refineries and reach retailers but already gas stations around the US jack up the price at the pump.
Then the Seventh Fleet sails into the Straits of Hormuz, but it is too little too late. The supertankers are empty. Short of landing the Marines to take the giant oil fields and recruiting an army of production engineers to run them, military options are few, and costly. Saudi Arabia, after all, is armed with state-of-the-art US weaponry, and with its honor at stake, is entirely capable of self-inflicting scorched earth if push comes to shove.
Meanwhile, back at home, everything descends to chaos. Markets crash. The most-energy-dependent sectors scramble to come up with downscaling plans that could keep the doors open, but within weeks — a month at the most — giants like WalMart and Amazon are shuttering million-square-foot warehouses. Freighters turn back to Shenzhen with full cargoes. Bankers are unwilling to extend lines of credit.
Economic contraction would spread like a pandemic across the face of Europe. It would reach into Russia and China, who had imagined themselves immune, but were already weakened by US economic sanctions. China’s giant economy demands 9 million barrels of refined oil each and every day.
Russia, now importing only 30,000 b/d, is likely to be the least harmed by a global energy supply drop, but is helpless to fend off the knock-on effects of global economic downturn, especially when its Chinese trading partner goes belly up. It could extend credit for gas purchases both Eastward and Westward but any expectation that it would be repaid would eventually be dashed. The world economy would be as a boxer who has been struck a knockout blow, still standing, but bound for the canvas.
In Scandinavia and Germany, breadlines form. In Spain and Italy, fascist movements take to the streets and find broad support. We’ve seen all this before, but this is a different beast. The event will be enormous, and it will be fast.
Central Banks and the Fed can meet in emergency sessions but the tools they used in earlier crises are gone, spent in 2008 and the lingering QE programs. In any case, this situation is not something that can be remedied by rejiggering debt. Energy is not money.
The televised bobbleheads we see wringing their hands over the Khashoggi affair, urging POTUS to stick up for “American values” would be mute. Their communications channels would be shutting down in any event. They might busy themselves thinking how they can feed their families as grocery store shelves go empty.
Of course, the other possibility would be that Donald Trump simply refuses to sign the sanctions bill and thereby saves Civilization. That is, until rising temperatures and rising seas erase it from memory.
Donald Trump has a chance here to do the right thing. He can kill Civilization and save the Earth. He just has to stick it to Saudi Arabia.

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* Before Congress can take action of this kind, it is required to first invoke the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act and give the President 120 days to investigate and recommend sanctions. Lawmakers did that on October 18.

The Great Change by Albert Bates



133 Comments on "How Donald Trump saved Civilization (and lost the planet)"

  1. Cloggie on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 4:25 pm 

    “George Soros Vows To Lead Migrant Caravan Into Promised Land”

    These (((f*ckers))) intend to set up the entire third world against us. It is always the the pattern, in ancient Rome, in Czarist Russia and now in the West, first of all the US. they place themselves at the head of a mob and attack the old order.

    Counter strategy:

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/polar-alliance-update-ice-people-are-mobilizing-against-sun-people-tsunamieven-chinese-canadians/

  2. Davy on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 4:25 pm 

    “Italy rules out leaving the EU amid budget standoff”

    neder, no one knows where this is going so there is no ruling out anything.

  3. I AM THE MOB on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 4:28 pm 

    A parody Antifa page convinced a bunch of CHUDs to show up in the pouring rain to a nonexistent protest

    https://www.gastongazette.com/news/20181020/antifa-scare-sends-protestors-to-gastonia-camping-store

  4. Cloggie on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 4:31 pm 

    “BTW, I did not post this”

    I believe you, although you often quote from ZH.lol

  5. Antius on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 5:23 pm 

    Some kind of civil conflict along the lines foreseen by Cloggie is a strong possibility at this point I think. Be grateful America. In the UK, such a thing would be impossible, because the forces of darkness already control the country with an iron fist. Meaningful dissent is impossible here. Unless it takes the form of an underground movement.

  6. I AM THE MOB on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 5:32 pm 

    Our country is now so weak that 300 million plus can’t even absorb a few thousand without total breakdown.

    Sounds like Republican governance has failed.

  7. I AM THE MOB on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 5:32 pm 

    Hasbro will lay off hundreds after Toys ‘R’ Us’ closure

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/22/business/hasbro-job-cuts-toys-r-us/index.html?utm_content=2018-10-22T21%3A31%3A05&utm_source=twbusiness&utm_medium=social&utm_term=image

    I thought all of the sales were just going online? lol

  8. makati1 on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 5:46 pm 

    Cloggie, again MOB resorts to 3rd grade playground bullying. He is not sane nor mature. He has a twin here called Davy.

  9. Cloggie on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 5:48 pm 

    “Globalist/communist? WTF? Globalism is capitalism..”

    YES! Did I say anything else?

    “Communism” in the widest sense of the word means a world without borders. You can have that ideal both with central planning or capitalism.

    “I am going to laugh when someone bashes your face in with a brick”

    Not a chance, I would have you deloused before you can say “Hitler”.

  10. makati1 on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 5:56 pm 

    Globalism is not capitalism. The US is mostly socialist/communist. The corporations/government own everything. Yes, everything.

    You may have it in your hand, but, if the government wants it, it can take it. Try not paying property taxes for a few years and see who owns your land/house. Miss a few payments on your car, TV, credit card, etc. and see what happens. There is no true capitalism, just as there is no true democracy in the world today. You are a serf, not a lord.

  11. Davy on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 6:29 pm 

    “I believe you”

    Thanks nederliar. You and the tard are the only true friends I have in this world.

  12. Davy on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 6:34 pm 

    JuanI said the above. Stupid coward

  13. Davy on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 6:43 pm 

    “He is not sane nor mature. He has a twin here called Davy.”

    Getting desperate billy? Good thing your dumbass friends gregt and juanP are stealing handles and using socks. That gives you some cover to puke something. The gang is beaten so they resort to childish behavior. I have to laugh when you were whining the other day about handle theft but when it is me you are tickled. Stupid old man

  14. Davy on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 6:47 pm 

    “Globalism is not capitalism.”
    WTF is it then Billy?

    “The US is mostly socialist/communist.”
    Sure billy tell me some more of your economic wisdom. Wow, I can tell you beat on nails most of your life.

    “The corporations/government own everything. Yes, everything.”
    Losing it….lol

    “Try not paying property taxes for a few years and see who owns your land/house. Miss a few payments on your car, TV, credit card, etc. and see what happens.”
    I imagine maybe you didn’t pay your debts billy when you where in the states. It coming out now. You were a deadbeat.

    “There is no true capitalism, just as there is no true democracy in the world today. You are a serf, not a lord.”
    The world according to Billy, LMFAO

  15. makati1 on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 7:34 pm 

    Definition of globalism

    : a national policy of treating the whole world as a proper sphere for political influence — compare imperialism, internationalism. – Merriam-Webster

    : the attitude or policy of placing the interests of the entire world above those of individual nations. – Dictionary.com

    : A national geopolitical policy in which the entire world is regarded as the appropriate sphere for a state’s influence. – Free Dictionary

    Get educated, Davy. Globalism: “Political” not “Economy”.

    Denial of realty does not change reality. You are blind to your own deteriorating situation.

  16. boney joe on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 9:07 pm 

    “supertard”

    If the shoe fits……..

    “I tend to believe that in a civil war situation in which the US is black vs white, and the whites recognise the situation for what it is; darkie will most likely be on the receiving end of a new age of apartheid. Once it is realised that Millikikes people have aided and abetted black power; the Americans will be building a Belsen reenactment centre.”

    Been hitting those English Cocoa Puffs a bit too hard I see or bad window-pane acid trips? Personally, I’m fairly certain it’s the former as the GloryHole guy exhibits all of the classic symptoms of a post-Cocoa Puffs nutter.

  17. boney joe on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 9:11 pm 

    Go I AM THE MOB!!!!!!!

    My brother from a different mother.

  18. makati1 on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 9:31 pm 

    “American politics, which needs to be evaluated more as bad theatre than anything else, is a scam. The deal is simple, every couple of years a manufactured fake promises to fix what should have died long ago. American democracy was “dead on arrival” as early as 1787….

    One thing is seen in American politics above all else, anyone who “rocks the boat” will die in a plane crash, be smeared, impeached, shot or be buried in by a rigged election….

    As monuments are destroyed, crushed as the dead are dishonored, their sacrifices smeared, America sinks into a depth of tyranny that cannot be ignored nor denied….

    What we are saying here is simple, though the story is not. All politics is artifice, all narratives fictional, all characters are a fiction, their stories fakery and deceit. Life is things, truth is replaced by “beliefs,” happiness is purchased with money earned through an economic system that only survives through war and slavery.” – Gordon Duff

    https://journal-neo.org/2018/10/22/democracy-snuffed-out-2/

    Democracy never existed in America. Not even a trace of it in our lifetimes. Don’t read this article if you don’t want your delusions about democratic America destroyed.

  19. makati1 on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 9:37 pm 

    “The Mainstream Media: A Tool to Destroy the U.S.:

    “Communities … are almost nonexistent. This has been replaced with Communism, currently undergoing its “genesis” from the soft form of socialism and the semi-laissez faire authoritarianism that is exemplified by the surveillance state….

    A forced “communal” mindset is being blared at us by every weapon the Media has in its arsenal: the radio, newspapers, television, and the Internet/Social Media monster….

    The country is an entitlement nation that “asks not what you can do for your country, but what can you take from it.”…

    Read. Read the “Communist Manifesto,” and the Planks of Communism, and you will see in print what was written decades ago, that is happening here and now in the U.S. Read Alexander Sozhenitsyn’s works to see what happens at the “final tipping point” of the full-blown change of a nation into a Communist totalitarian society….

    And read the newspapers, the magazines, and the like: it will all jump right out at you. We are at a tipping point where the economy is not stable, where there are many elements that could turn into tremendous social conflicts and upheavals domestically, and the rest of the world is little by little “decoupling” from the Petrodollar and reliance upon American markets. Throughout all of this, the Media has been there to make it worse, to skew the news, and to force societal transformation and paradigm shift through its propaganda toward a Communist society and the relegation of American sovereignty toward global governance.”

    http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/the-mainstream-media-a-tool-to-destroy-the-u-s_10222018

    Brainwashing 24/7/365. THAT is Amerika today.

  20. I AM THE MOB on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 10:07 pm 

    Middle Class Destroyed: 50 Percent Of All American Workers Make Less Than $30,533 A Year

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/middle-class-destroyed-50-percent-of-all-american-workers-make-less-than-30533-a-year

  21. I AM THE MOB on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 10:12 pm 

    Mak

    Limits to growth had 12 models. One of those models, the “standard run” or, alternatively, the “business as usual” model was the one that 40 years of historical data tracked/followed. And according to that model the global economy will collapse by 2030.
    Scientific American: Apocalypse Soon: Has Civilization Passed the Environmental Point of No Return?

    References;
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/apocalypse-soon-has-civilization-passed-the-environmental-point-of-no-return/

    https://www.scribd.com/document/379418787/Is-Global-Collapse-Imminent-An-Updated-Comparison-of-The-Limits-to-Growth-with-Historical-Data-Turner-2014

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/looking-back-on-the-limits-of-growth-125269840/

    Global collapse which means your shithole underdeveloped swampland..

  22. Anonymouse1 on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 10:24 pm 

    You do know, I AM THE DAVYMOB, is the exceptionalturds sock, right?

  23. Cloggie on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 11:11 pm 

    Cloggie, again MOB resorts to 3rd grade playground bullying. He is not sane nor mature. He has a twin here called Davy.

    Nah, Mob is an outright sociopath, he can’t wait to kill and rape and bomb people.

    Davy is not that depraved, but he does harbor his Dream of Empire, where I have my dream of pan-European civilization and white survival. And in both cases the old communist adage applies: you cannot have an omelette without breaking an egg…

  24. boney joe on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 11:20 pm 

    Anonymouse1-

    I’m not so sure. As a fanatically right-wing Trumptard, I can’t see him writing in the form of MOB. Turd is fully subscribed to the Faux News parade of conspiracy theory nonsense; however, if this is one of his socks, it only demonstrates just how far off the rails this guy has gone.

  25. boney joe on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 11:28 pm 

    Politics Podcast: What On Earth Should We Make Of The Democrats’ Huge Fundraising Edge?

    House Democratic nominees are outraising Republicans in individual contributions by about two-to-one. The FiveThirtyEight Politics podcast crew debates how to make sense of a fundraising advantage that has no recent precedent.

    fivethrityeight.com

  26. boney joe on Mon, 22nd Oct 2018 11:30 pm 

    Forecasting the race for the House

    Updated Oct. 22, 2018, at 8:26 PM

    6 in 7 Chance Democrats win control (86.5%)

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/house/?ex_cid=midterms-header

  27. boney joe on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 12:25 am 

    ASSOCIATED PRESS October 18, 2018

    (NEW YORK) — Another building is stripping Trump off its entrance.

    Residents of Trump Place on the Upper West Side of Manhattan have joined three other buildings in the neighborhood in stripping the president’s brassy five-letter name from their 46-story building in another sign that the Trump logo has become toxic.

    The move follows on the heels of losses at President Donald Trump’s golf courses, and decisions by several hotels that had licensed the president’s name to drop it.
    This far, fourteen properties have elected to jettison the Trump name for good, and more are on the way.

    After more than a quarter century, Trump Plaza will now be known only by its address, 200 Riverside Boulevard.

  28. makati1 on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 12:55 am 

    MOB: The place I call home is not a shithole like your neighborhood Chicago, St.Louis, etc.. Not even close, but you do not know that first hand, just propaganda from your MSM Police State.

    Yes, when the US goes down there will be a shakeup in a lot of places, but not so much in places not tied to huge debts like most of the West and especially the #1 debtor nation, America. I doubt that most of my neighbors here will even notice the US crashing the rest of the way into the 3rd world. Few buy newspapers, have internet or even care.

    I will watch with fascination as the US gets what it so richly (pun intended) deserves. Soon, I hope.

  29. Cloggie on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 12:58 am 

    You do know, I AM THE DAVYMOB, is the exceptionalturds sock, right?

    Nobody is going to fool you, right, moussie? Yet another one of your intellectual home-runs, just like I have no chance in hiding the fact from you that I am a hooked-nosed Jew from North Tel Aviv.

  30. makati1 on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 1:02 am 

    Your master’s voice: “The Mainstream Media: A Tool to Destroy the U.S.”

    A deliberate attempt is being made by the MSM (Mainstream Media) to destroy the remaining fabric of American society and force the country’s disintegration and absorption into a global government. They don’t have very far to go: since the 1960s, a family-centered culture that was the “hub” of the greatest nation this world has ever seen…that bastion of the family has been eroded and all but destroyed. The replacement “culture” has been one of drug use, pornography, “sloth” within all the generations…young, middle-aged, and elderly, and a fostered unwillingness to take responsibility for anything of value. The country is an entitlement nation that “asks not what you can do for your country, but what can you take from it.” The family is not even referred to in that manner anymore. I have read the term “consumer units” to refer to households, as well as “household groupings.”

    http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/the-mainstream-media-a-tool-to-destroy-the-u-s_10222018

    Six men/corporations control over 95% of US media outlets from radio to TV, to movies, to newspapers, to magazines, to the internet. If you read it, watch it or hear it in the US it is from those six sources. Now back to your regularly scheduled PROGRAMing.

  31. Antius on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 1:33 am 

    “Politics Podcast: What On Earth Should We Make Of The Democrats’ Huge Fundraising Edge?”

    Powerful and not very nice friends. Last time, all the money in the world made no difference. People saw them as the civilisation wreckers that they are.

    As Davy says, the second half of the Trump administration will expose these peoples’ criminality. With a man on the supreme court, Trump is in a position to thoroughly break them. I will be watching that movie with popcorn and beer.

  32. Anonymouse1 on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 2:09 am 

    Dont go selling yourself short there now cloggraham.

    You’re a hook-nosed RAT-faced yid from North-where-ever.

  33. boney joe on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 2:15 am 

    Anus (GloryHole):

    Obviously, you’re too proud to know the facts so let me educate you. The reason this fundraising is unprecedented is not only are the Republicans being beat by a 2:1 margin, but the Democrats are raising record sums from millions of small donors, as opposed to the rich who fund the Republicons.

    Translation: You’re a prideful, arrogant, fool.

    “As Davy says, the second half of the Trump administration will expose these peoples’ criminality.”

    Yeah, I’ve heard this slop from the fair and balanced turd for the last couple of years. I quoted you just so I can show you up to be another right-wing nutter- surprise, surprise.

    On a personal note, were you frequently beaten to a pulp throughout your youth (maybe including adulthood as well) due to your self-imposed social isolation? After sharing a few of your gems with two former British colleagues, they both think that’s the case. You sad little clown :(/

    Inquiring minds want to know, but already know the answer-LOL.

  34. boney joe on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 2:18 am 

    Anon1

    Clogged is a self-hating Jew. You may be onto something…

  35. Anonymouse1 on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 2:25 am 

    You know it…..

  36. makati1 on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 2:26 am 

    Republicans vs Democrats. The freak sideshow in America to keep the tax serfs distracted while they are being robbed and kept in debt slavery. The real government is not elected and will remain to finish taking down America.

    I prefer cheese and wine, Antius. The picture is much clearer outside the box called America. And safer.

  37. boney joe on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 2:43 am 

    MadKat-

    You’re worse than a spurned lover-LOL.

  38. boney joe on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 2:45 am 

    MadKat-

    With all of the available snatch to be found in the Phills, you should be the happiest guy in the world.

    Something does not compute.

  39. makati1 on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 3:55 am 

    boney, I am a very happy, healthy, 74 year old secure man in the Philippines. I have all I need or want. I am enjoying my retirement, as I have for the last 12 years.

    Not only have I moved most of my resources here, but you have sent me over $200,000,00 in tax free Social Security payments to support my prepping hobby. Thanks!

    Why do you think I am not happy? A bit of insanity on your part? lol

  40. Davy on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 4:02 am 

    “Six men/corporations control over 95% of US media outlets from radio to TV, to movies, to newspapers, to magazines, to the internet.”

    Billy, do you have backup on that figure 95%? More exaggerations and distorts, besides your loving China is where the really 1984 is occurring. Why don’t you talk about that some too?

  41. Davy on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 4:08 am 

    “House Democratic nominees are outraising Republicans in individual contributions by about two-to-one.”

    Got a proper reference sloppy joe (juanp).

  42. Davy on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 4:09 am 

    “You do know, I AM THE DAVYMOB, is the exceptionalturds sock, right?”

    the sock cop speaks and shows us the depth of his intellect.lol.

  43. Davy on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 4:16 am 

    “I will watch with fascination as the US gets what it so richly (pun intended) deserves. Soon, I hope.”

    Billy, more like you are a prisoner of your own devices watching the US like a mental patient obsessed and manic unable to entertain reality. One need only follow your agenda here to see you are not right.

  44. Davy on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 4:21 am 

    “boney, I am a very happy, healthy, 74 year old secure man in the Philippines. I have all I need or want. I am enjoying my retirement, as I have for the last 12 years.”
    If you are so happy why the constant hatred and resentment billy? Why are you always promoting intellectual violence here on this board? You do realize this is the internet so constantly telling us how healthy you are may just be a subconscious attempt to make yourself feel healthy.

    “Not only have I moved most of my resources here, but you have sent me over $200,000,00 in tax free Social Security payments to support my prepping hobby. Thanks!”
    Ill gotten gains billy. Your generation bankrupted SS and now you are still taking it IMA doing absolutely nothing productive. What a shit sack.

  45. Cloggie on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 4:24 am 

    “Anon1
    Clogged is a self-hating Jew. You may be onto something…”

    Why can’t nobody simply accept me for what I am: a dangerous, virile, bloodthirsty natzi, with blond hair, steel blue penetrating eyes, straight from some Lebensborn eugenics program.lol

    http://www.jamesbondwiki.com/m/page/Stamper

    I feel discriminated against, my feelings are hurt. Life is not fair.

  46. Davy on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 4:27 am 

    “Anus (GloryHole): bviously, you’re too proud to know the facts so let me educate you.”

    Sloppy joe, Antius contributes to the board very valuable energy information. You contribute stupid political hype and social media noise. You are a worthless sock puppet parading around stirring up shit.

  47. Davy on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 4:32 am 

    neder, as much as I disagree with your social and political message at least you contribute relevant information concerning energy part of the time. What does a-noise1 the sock cop tell us? Sloppy joe is a waste of time packing the board with political dirt. I put up with people like you. People like sloppy joe and a-noise1 are useless.

  48. makati1 on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 4:58 am 

    Jealous Davy? Yep, I paid into SS for about 50 years. About 14% of my income in my last working years. I am just getting my investment back. The US will disintegrate soon but I will have most of my money back with interest before it happens. Anything after is gravy.

    SS taxes have been supporting your lifestyle for decades by keeping other taxes low. The government you enjoy is the result of those trillions being used instead of raising your taxes. Now they have to take it out of your taxes to make good their promises. Sorry, It will not be there for you. Nor will the America you want to live in.

    What is YOUR generation doing about the situation you are in? Answer: Making it worse. Look around you, Davy. It isn’t going to get any better. Enjoy!

  49. Antius on Tue, 23rd Oct 2018 5:02 am 

    I assume that ‘Anus’ is referring to me. I do seem to be dropping some on Boney Joe lately 

    The rich provide plenty of money for both parties. American politics has become a racket a sorts, with lobbyists of various colours basically buying politicians. The media is corrupt as well and does not provide a balanced view of the world. It is a systematic problem, not a party political one. And it does need to be fixed.

    The Clintons made hundreds of millions by using their position to extort money from various people, most famously Vladimir Putin from whom they received ~$10million (I forget the exact figure) in exchange for 10% of US uranium reserves! They have corrupted virtually every government institution. Their actions leading up to the 2016 election were nothing less than criminal. They are inciting violence. How do you reconcile their behaviour with your beliefs that they are holier than holy saviours from the evil Trump? Asking the Clintons to help remove a corrupt leader is kind of like asking your local mafia boss to help you with the crime problem.

    My personal situation is better than average I would say. I have had successes and failures, but there was nothing particularly traumatic about my childhood, at least not that I remember. It was pleasant and undramatic. I came from a working class background, did well at school and went to a well-respected university. My income is certainly above average for a man in his thirties in the UK and I live in a good house in a quiet northern town with no mortgage and have other property for extra income. I married the woman I wanted. She is hard working and I love and respect her. Some people look at me with envy, but I worked hard for everything I have. Most of the people that hate me for what I have didn’t. They pissed away their free education drinking alcohol, smoking weed and fucking the local tarts. Perhaps because of that experience, I have less than average sympathy for people that moan about ‘the rich’ and want to bring down western civilisation.

    My main concerns are that my children, grandchildren and other British children will not enjoy the same fruits from their labour as I have. That what is rightfully theirs will simply be taken from them. Hence my hatred for ‘progressive’ politics.

    From your bitterness, I deduce that you have not been so happy and successful. I am genuinely sorry for that. But your attitude is contemptible and Marxist politics will not help your situation. It will ruin everyone elses.

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