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Kunstler: Resist That
Perhaps because a weary public was underwhelmed by his indictment last week of thirteen ham sandwiches with Russian dressing, Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller has returned to an old baloney sandwich with American cheese named Paul Manafort, and slathered on some extra mayonnaise to lubricate his journey to federal prison.
The additional charges specify tax evasion and money-laundering shenanigans around Manfort’s activities in Ukraine between 2006 and 2015, a period that included the USA’s active participation in the overthrow of Ukraine’s elected president, Victor Yanukovych, who had declared a desire to join the Russian Customs Union instead of being shanghaied into an expanded NATO.
Scrupulous observers may note that all this took place well in advance of the 2016 US presidential election, when Manafort was candidate Donald Trump’s campaign manager for several months before being thrown overboard for reasons still publicly unknown — but probably the awareness that Manafort’s personal financial affairs were a smoldering wreck. Meanwhile, Manafort’s business colleague, Rick Gates, has also been charged by Mueller, and this week an associate of Gates, one Alex Van Der Swaan, son-in-law of a Russian billionaire, was persuaded to plead guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Gates.
All of this suggests that there were fabulous opportunities for American profiteering in the sad-sack, quasi failed state of Ukraine, and that the feckless Manafort circle will be doing Chinese fire drills in the federal courts until the cows come home, but it doesn’t say a whole lot about Russian interference in the 2016 US election. One might surmise that there is enough pressure on Manafort and company to get them to say anything now to save their asses. On the other hand, it could lead in open court to the airing of all sorts of dirty laundry about surreptitious US meddling in Ukraine, and about the corps of camp-following money-grubbing American grifters who raced in after 2014 to steal anything that wasn’t nailed down there by the homegrown kleptocrats.
But it it also raises the question whether Mr. Mueller was invited on the scene to prosecute any old thing that fell in his path. Or why he is ignoring the much more obvious smoking mess around his old FBI colleagues who seemed to have committed manifold acts of criminal misconduct in their pursuit of FISA warrants to gather intel on candidate Trump.
In the end — if this extravagant melodrama ever does end — we are stuck with ourselves and our many serious problems here in the USA, which include especially an unraveling financial system that may leave the nation as economically broken and desolate as Russia was in 1991– but ironically with a far less resilient population unused to real travail, as the Russians were after 70 years of soviet Deep State-ism.
Our own Deep State has rapidly become an entity as sinister as the old Soviet Nomenklatura. It is interesting and dismaying to see so many public intellectuals swallow its self-serving claims when it was not so many years ago that a healthy and natural skepticism about government lying was the order of the day, especially when it came to the dark towers of US Intel.
47 Comments on "Kunstler: Resist That"
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 11:35 am
Jesus christ even old Kunt is now squealing about the “Deep State”…Dude is fucking losing it!
DerHundistLos on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 12:42 pm
Kunt is so desperate for his meme to ring true that, as the Master mentioned, if all else fails, go the conspiracy theory route since it’s impossible to prove/disapprove.
Kunt has been wrong so often that he has morphed into a perfect opposite barometer for the truth.
Cloggie on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 12:57 pm
The only thing Kunstler is losing are the likes of millimind, a bearable loss I would say.
Every country has a “deep state”, that is an inner circle of a few hundred to few thousand who are engaged in the real political decision process, the rest just sh*ts, works and pays taxes. Demockressie is usually a farce, just give a couple of hundred boobs a flag during to campaign to wave with, launch a meaningless slogan (“Yes we can!”) and your good with your demockressie.
In a small country like the Netherlands a catholic trade union big whig Jan Mertens held a speech in 1968, claiming that in the Netherlands there were about 200 people calling the shots, the “200 van Mertens”:
https://www.trouw.nl/home/de-200-van-mertens-leven-voort~a7d2f685/
In a large country like America it’s a few thousand.
The election process is usually carefully orchestrated, with system certified candidates only. One huge exception was 2016, where an external intruder and populist with money wrong-footed the entire establishment, from left to “right”, from politics to media and hijacked the system from the Deep State aka Swamp.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2GkgYAUoAA4mPv.jpg
You could call that real democracy, for a moment.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 1:02 pm
Derhund
Kunt has been right about his long emergency theory. I mean if you consider we have been in an economic depression the last 11 years.
The Great Depression 1929-1940 US Economic Growth GDP (1%)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression
The Great Recession 2006-2017 US Economic Growth GDP (1.5%)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/188165/annual-gdp-growth-of-the-united-states-since-1990/
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 1:36 pm
Study: 90% Of Americans Strongly Opposed To Each Other
https://www.theonion.com/study-90-of-americans-strongly-opposed-to-each-other-1823168096
Hello on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 1:50 pm
>>> In a large country like America it’s a few thousand. The election process is usually carefully orchestrated
I’m wondering how they do that. In my town, political meetings usually end up in fragmentation and shouting between the entrenched groups and that’s between a couple of tens of people.
You’re telling me 1000s of over-achieving power hungry, greedy, megolomanic, back-stabbing bastards can get along long enough to orchestrate anything?
I have my doubts.
joe on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 2:29 pm
Some people will never accept that the US government functions on the surface as a Republic (just like ancient Rome) with so called freedom of speech etc. The terrible truth is that ‘democracy’ is the biggest fake news of all. At least in the UK we understand that the liberty we have comes from the authority of the Crown, we don’t try to pretend we have a problem with that, authority fairly implemented is freedom. The US and in particular the EU daily lies to its people and tells them the people are in control. The truth is that control comes from massive bureaucracies which are mostly unelected and unaccountable. That is the deep state. Romes democracy was a fraud. Even when Romes emperors ruled at their height, the Senate met every day and passed laws.
JH Wyoming on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 5:13 pm
Kunstler acts like he has special knowledge of what is truth and what is not in this situation with Russia. My advice for him is to let the people in INTELLIGENCE gather the evidence and for JHK to go back to writing about peak oil.
Davy on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 5:36 pm
Kunstler has it pegged. It is one big friggen mess which ever way you look at it. Funny to hear the blind liberals whining but then howl over Trump. Double standards always boomerang back to bite. Kunstler is right, we have some serious problems ahead but instead of focusing we are waffling. What are we going to do when a real crisis hits? Surely this stupidity would stop or would it?
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 6:38 pm
Davy
Shouldn’t you be shoveling shit on your farm? I bet your cousin/wife loves a man that gets dirty! Just country boys and girls getting down on the farm! LOL
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 6:49 pm
JH
You are so right! I quit reading Kunts nonsense when he started squealing about Hillary’s uranium one deal with Russia. I used to be friends with him on FB. And one day about five years ago he wakes up and posts “THE STOCK MARKET WILL CRASH TODAY”…And of course nothing happened. And I left a comment laughing and he blocked me..He needs to get laid or some sort of girlfriend.
Davy on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 6:53 pm
Flushed a covey. Lol
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 7:28 pm
Davy
Did you call your cousin/wife into the bathroom to have a whiff? I bet she loves the smell of ass..She has to if she married you of course! lol
DerHundistLos on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 8:56 pm
Davy, aren’t you about due for another Democratic party conspiracy theory? I know the last ones have been total flops, but, you know what they say, throw enough shit against the wall and sooner or later something is bound to stick. What’s Drudge or the drugster Rush cooking-up these days? No doubt you would know.
TheNationalist on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 9:51 pm
For me the proof the left has descended into hysteria is the reaction I recieved from members of these forums. They almost instantly accused me of being KGB and President Putins lover.
Any rationalisation or critique of the U.S. Military machine/ empire causes instant derision from the former thinking class.
It’s sad but perhaps a symptom of bigger underlying issues they can’t solve in a marxist fashion? Things like water shortages, global resource depletion, pollution and global warming?
Blame ole whitey redneck is very fashionable this winter / spring I’ve been told, may still be ‘in’ this summer!
Oh how deplorable!
TheNationalist on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 9:58 pm
I agree Joe, us Brits never slaughtered our royalty (well not completely), and we never really flushed the old aristocracy away (like France or America with their revolutions). So for us it is a different culture and we are under fewer illusions perhaps. We do not have this blind faith that the new ‘elite’ group of lords and masters are ‘different’ and all that shit the poor old yanks and others cling too.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 10:36 pm
Nationalist
You think the left supports the war machine? LOL that is laughable! The problem isn’t Russian meddling its the fact that the people on the right are so dumb and stupid they will believe anything a russian troll sends them.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 10:37 pm
DerHundistLos
You are so right about Davy..He is a lost cause..He just like that Greg dude left the ship of fools a long time ago…
JH Wyoming on Mon, 26th Feb 2018 11:51 pm
“He needs to get laid or some sort of girlfriend.”
You’re right about that mastermind. JHK just isn’t getting any. Maybe Davy can lend him his cousin.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 12:12 am
JH
Since Kunt lives in New York maybe he can just swing down to the city and borrows Rudy Giuliani’s first wife (Who was his cousin).
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2007/sep/06/obama-girl/giulianis-first-wife-was-his-second-cousin/
Davy on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 4:51 am
“Davy, aren’t you about due for another Democratic party conspiracy theory?”
I am ready for a real Democrat to step up that is what I am ready for. What we have now is worse than Trump and Trump is bad. The criminality of that part of the establishment is horrendous and you blind liberals don’t care. You don’t care because you hate Trump so much. Trump could be gone soon in an election that will be here before you know it but you stupid Democrats will be lost in your corruption and slide into the gutter.
Davy on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 5:00 am
“Maybe Davy can lend him his cousin.”
Aren’t you cute Wyoming. I know when a bitch slaps hit home when the whining starts. I am pretty sure I have more culture in my pinky fingernail then all the lying liberals on this forum. I hear you dumbasses talk and I know why the Democratic Party is one big friggin wreck. Are you guys going to get your shit together are what? I have voted Democrat in the past but I getting to the point where it is pointless to vote at all. All of the above is horrible. At least the evil Hillary is gone. She embodied the greatest evil and you schmucks loved her. Kunstler (card carrying Democrat) is honest and he is one of you and you reject him. I am neither of the above. I dislike all the parties that are just a manifestation of decline and decay. I am a doomer and prepper embracing science and nature. I also spit on schmucks whenever I can because it is fun sport.
DerHundistLos on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 5:23 pm
Davy, is it really asking too much for you to substantiate your claims? P-R-O-O-F. Nothing more. Show me how “we stupid Democrats are lost in your corruption.” You want the Dems to be as bad as the Cons so the equivalency meme gains credibility, but that’s not the case. The mind of Democrats is different than Cons. The Cons are driven by greed and power and money. Not the Dems.
With one notable exception (Hank Paulson albeit RINO) every single American conservation donor I have known is a Democrat, which is why the Cons eliminated the charitable gift deduction. In reality, the Cons are hurting every one of us by discouraging charitable giving.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 5:35 pm
Davy is straight losing it! Immigrant paranoia and now attacking the left, even though the right controls everything. And Kunt isn’t a progressive he is an old crusty boomer. And like all the crusty’s they always swing to the right! Just look at whats going on in Davy’s home state with their Repbublicon governor. enough said.
DerHundistLos on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 5:36 pm
@ The Nationalist
“Blame ole whitey redneck is very fashionable this winter / spring I’ve been told, may still be ‘in’ this summer!”
What the devil are you talking about? I don’t “blame” Davy for anything. The fact of the matter, at least from my perspective, Davy and I share much in common. We happen to disagree on some aspects of politics so we but heads, but it’s never personal so I must endeavor to enlighten my fellow Franklin County neighbor. Davy’s mom and dad and I were avid Dick Gephardt supporters when he ran, and almost secured the nomination for, for president on the Democratic ticket. Finally, I’m not and most people are not blindly loyal to one political party. Two examples: I supported Nixon in ’72 and Bush in ’88.
DMyers on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 6:07 pm
“You think the left supports the war machine?”
Let’s see. Obama expanded military activities. The left-leaning Press is a constant source of war rousing content. Current war activities have strong Democratic support in Congress. The individual leftists themselves tend toward violence these days, as their ideas have been invalidated by history, so all they can do is force those ideas on people.
Anyone not believing the Left supports the war machine is not paying attention or is blind as a bat.
Davy on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 6:32 pm
Blind lying liberals are so easy to shoot down. Anyone who is an extremist promoting their team and soiling the other side is sport for Davy. We have so many idiots on this forum. Der hund is among the worst but the worst is masterbater. He forgot his lithium a year ago so we have to endure his pressured comments.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 6:58 pm
DMyers
Obama voted against both wars in the middle east And he ended the war in Iraq. And the Big media is not liberal leaning. That is just right wing paranoia. The only liberal media is in Cuba. The right loves war because they think violence is the only way to solve problems. That is why they beat their own children. And who killed more people last year the Anti fa or white supremacist? You tell me? You know the answer without even having to look it up. Radical leftist are hippies and radical right wingers are neo nazi’s..This is why they can’t get along. one wants peace and love the other wants mass murder and genocide.
Davy on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 7:41 pm
masterbator, quit lying to yourself, fool.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 7:42 pm
Davy
Funny you are aware of what medication crazy people take..Gee I wonder why? You fundamentalist preppers are so funny! Hey davy have you ever heard the song “Country boys can survive”? Do you listen to that song on your farm and feel hardcore while you are milking your goats? LOL
fmr-paultard on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 7:46 pm
i’m taking a break from retirement to say you’re not supertard. i told you the problem is not white supremacists because they can be bumpskied easily if they march with torches again. just be ready and get a few buddies together to increase rate of fire.
white supremacists are smart, you know? look if i said you’re not supertard and never will be, i meant you’ve attended a terminal tard degree like a terminal master, i barely graduated with a BA (bachelor of Arts in physics). if i want to find a religion dedicated to worshipping supertards (davy, boat, rock, alice) then in the same breath i’m going to marginalize smart white supremacists?
do you think i’m out to make a joke of myself? never.
The white supremacists you fear are slow learners like myself. you don’t need to fear them.
you know who are slow learners also? the jihadists. you notice they all have cliques? like index finger? you don’t fear them. all you need to do is pay the jizya and zakat to supertards and watch them kill supremacists islamists.
these guys are stupid because they believe Allah when he said they’re the best of humanity.
you look very dumb and your fear is showing . if you flip the ^^ it looks like the letter [M]uslim for wanting to breed supertards’ daughters.
anyways, don’t attack supertards even if supertards do stinging attack on you. you need to limit your scope and mission always.
fmr-paultard on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 7:49 pm
‘^mm^’
Davy on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 7:55 pm
“Funny you are aware of what medication crazy people take.”
Funny, that you think it is funny.
Gee I wonder why? You fundamentalist preppers are so funny!
Wow, that’s funny.
“Hey davy have you ever heard the song “Country boys can survive”? Do you listen to that song on your farm and feel hardcore while you are milking your goats? LOL”
I listen to classical music.
Boat on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 8:43 pm
Mm
Obama and the military. Remember the sequester? The agreement was gov spending had to take a haircut. Rep’s screamed. What did Obama do? Trotted out a bunch of generals to explain the danger’s of losing 50 billion.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 8:54 pm
Boat
You need to understand the mentality of the US conservatives.. Fighting wars to a US southerner is a religion all of it’s own. They deeply treasure all the mementos and memories of war. They endlessly bask in the lore and history of past wars and pine for new wars so that new glory and memories will be generated. They re-enact over and over again the bloody butchery of battles from the 1860s where over 700,000 soldiers died- largely from the diabolical effects of new artillery products. Like a religion, actually.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 8:58 pm
Prepping is futile.
Myth: Well-prepared individuals, groups, and communities will survive our impending collapse and maintain healthy, fulfilling, and productive lives in its aftermath.
Reality: Those who survive our collapse will be those who can obtain sufficient life sustaining essentials—especially clean water and food—on a continuous basis, both during and after collapse. Those who store large quantities of these essentials and those who attempt to produce food, either individually or in communities, will be easy targets for the vast majority who have neither the foresight to store nor the skills to produce. No matter how remote or secluded your sanctuary, somebody will know about it; and they will come to call when they become desperate; and they will be well armed and devoid of compassion. You can prepare for a last stand, but you cannot prepare for post-collapse survival. Post-collapse Life Will Be Preferable to Our Industrial Lifestyle Paradigm.
Myth: Industrialization has brought nothing but misery and degradation to the human race; our quality of life (and spiritual wellbeing) will improve substantially in a post-collapse world.
Reality: The post-collapse lifestyle awaiting the few who survive will, under the best of circumstances, share many attributes with pre-Columbian America. Unfortunately, the realities associated with subsistence level existence bear little semblance to the Hollywood accounts. Those who anxiously await our post-collapse world will be disappointed, assuming they live to experience it. The fact that nobody is opting to jettison the amenities afforded by an industrialized way of life in favor of a hunter-gatherer lifestyle today should be sufficient proof that our future way of life is not something to be anticipated. Industrialism is not inherently “evil” or immoral; it is simply physically impossible going forward.
Boat on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 9:12 pm
Mm
You posted an opinion that that showed thought. I think maybe you paint conservatives with too braud a brush but point taken. Wtg.
fmr-paultard on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 9:14 pm
your concern is factual but misplaced.
who killed the most today, last week, last month, 3 months, 6, 1 year, 10, 1400 years?
thereligionofpeace.com
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 9:24 pm
Shell : Beware Natural Gas Shortage Coming
Shell says that they expect LNG demand to grow by a explossive 500M metric tons/year by 2030. Supplies on the other hand will fall by 300M tons/year due to a lack of new projects and natural declines in existing production.
https://www.investing.com/analysis/beware-natural-gas-shortage-200294607
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 9:32 pm
Great now we have oil and gas shortages coming soon.
I am sure we can live without heat. light, and motion! /s
MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 9:48 pm
This gas shortage is exactly what (Mohr, 2015) predicted.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016236114010254
https://imgur.com/a/eyGya
Cloggie on Tue, 27th Feb 2018 11:14 pm
“I agree Joe, us Brits never slaughtered our royalty (well not completely),”
https://youtu.be/j21t1i_SiKI
His dad was: [0:55] [1:14]
#Charly1
Theedrich on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 2:50 am
Yankeeland sanctifies the world with murder. The New England colonies were started by religious fanatics. Even overlooking the murders of twenty people through the Salem witch trials (plus five others, among them two infants, dying in prison), there was much pious Protestant hatred. There was, for instance, virulent anti-Catholicism (the haters were, after all, Protestants) and, later, anti-Mormonism leading to Joseph Smith’s lynching. But the orgasmic self-righteousness of the unCivil War (1861-65) revealed the true nature of the Yankee soul. (As the Battle Hymn of the Republic put it, “As [Christ] died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, While God is marching on.” The operative word here is “die.”)
Skipping blithely over the (yellow-journalism-instigated) American aggression against Spain in 1898, we find that virtue-signaling via war enjoyed another growth spurt in World War I. But in World War II, it exploded with demands for the unconditional surrender of (“axis of evil”) Germany and Japan. The Anglo-American preference for killing civilians by carpet-bombing and use of the holy and blessed atomic bomb culminated in the exhilarating victory of the “greatest generation” over “evil.” Just ask any Jew or fervent Christer about how righteous we were.
Indeed, if anything has proven the truth of Nietzsche’s thesis that der Wille zur Macht (“the will to power”) is the principle underlying history, it is the “exceptional nation’s” will to destroy the planet in order to prove how god-fearing America really is.
Consider also that, in politics, an air of mad unpredictability can be quite useful. In 2018 we find that the U.S. president, Donald Trump, under unremitting onslaught by the Heeb media and the Demonic Party, has taken refuge in patriotism — that is, to say, in the military. To ingratiate himself with his new saviors, he is not only empowering and enriching them with toys and money, but making unsubtle hints about unleashing World War III. To spread democracy, the rule of law, and the will of Yahweh, of course.
The latest slogan to creep out of the mouth of the military-industrial-WhiteHouse complex is the term “Indo-Pacific.” This is the euphemism for the plan by the NSA, CIA, and Pentagon to establish a new curtain of “containment” around China, North Korea and even easternmost Russia. The plan enlists India, Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan and, of course, Japan (as well as Australia), in the crusade for peace through annihilation.
And so, you understand, Commie China had better rein in North Korea, and in general stop acting contrary to American “interests,” because otherwise the Greatest Nation on Earth just might end global civilization forever.
fmr-paultard on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 6:25 am
Oh shut it master race theedrich
Russia is training little girls for battle
Putin is allying with erdogan who purveys on little girl martyrdom and xi is made leader for life along with Putin
Of course our supertards have the right to counter fanaticism
The shogun policy will fail
Latest from duterte is he would rather China taking over. This is because he doesn’t know anything else other than shooting drug users… his country is devoid of supertards
fmr-paultard on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 6:33 am
Your endless victimhood is boring. If supertards killed nazis then they deserved it. They stand opposed to modern democracy and use the freedoms to destroy it. So they are enemy combatants
That’s why I said it’s acceptable for ^mm^ to bumpski them
DerHundistlos on Wed, 28th Feb 2018 10:58 pm
Davy,
You are one hateful SOB, that’s for sure. Do you spend most of your waking day focused entirely on this web site?
I ask you for evidence to support your claims and you respond with insults. You are exhibiting all of the classic symptoms associated with early onset Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease as a result of your diet of meat. You need to get this checked-out.
Davy on Thu, 1st Mar 2018 4:34 am
Der Hund, chill man who is the unrealistically serious one? You play with fire you get burned so why visit a polarized unmoderated forum where you take extreme positions? I find it silly to have the liberal pride you have and then go to a place where people will tear that pride apart. When you have extreme positions you are easy to neuter.
I am here to get an edge on my dooming and prepping. I am here for an intellectual workout. I am here for the mental challenge of shooting down extremist that target me and cheerlead themselves. I am not here to make friends but I am here to help those who want to know more about my doom/prep lifestyle. Most of all I am here because I enjoy it. Sorry if I hurt your feelings but this is the name of the game here. Maybe go find a nice lib site where you guys can wallow in trump hate.