Jack wrote:I think that Easter Island and the Maya point to environmental devastation. In more recent times, Haiti and Somalia come to mind.
Bottom line, we'll cut down the last tree to warm ourselves tonight - while sealing our ultimate fate. Just like the Easter Islanders.
alpha480v wrote:I agree,and thats why I think that the environment will go by the wayside so humanity can maintain the status-quo.
Riddick wrote:I look at it this way: The Earth needs to purge itself of the virus that is destroying it, kind of like how the human body's own immune system will take care of the flu.
We'll do everything to survive - including looting the environment even more - but once that phase ends (plus a lot of human deaths), then the real healing can begin.
Most people look at a volcano as a destructive force but they are seeing it on a limited time frame; it's really a cleansing process that occurs over Nature's time, not a human's time frame.
It will get a whole lot worse before things get better, environmentally speaking.
We have got to learn to live with nature instead of trying to control it.
JohnDenver wrote:The theory seems to be this: Powerdown (whether intentional or unintentional) will have positive effects on the health of the environment, and thus is something environmentalists should welcome.
I would argue for the opposite effect: Powerdown will make everyone increasingly poor, and they will assault the environment to compensate. For example, fuel shortages (or expensive fuel) will lead people to poach trees for fuel, and food shortages (or increasing poverty) will lead people to clear new land, poach wildlife, overfish, fish over the limit etc.
I would argue for the opposite effect: Powerdown will make everyone increasingly poor, and they will assault the environment to compensate. For example, fuel shortages (or expensive fuel) will lead people to poach trees for fuel, and food shortages (or increasing poverty) will lead people to clear new land, poach wildlife, overfish, fish over the limit etc.
the Australian desert.
Not a good example. The native australians were able to live there for some 40,000 years until white people came along, even though it's one of the driest places on earth.
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