meemoe_uk wrote:Machinery, fertilizers, foreign seeds and irrigation systems are time tested ways of increasing productivity.
Machinery : plough invented about 8000 years ago. Very useful!
Fertilizers : Organic fertilizers used for thousands of years. Very useful!
Foreign seeds : Wheat selectively bred around modern Iraq about 13000 years ago, spread all over the world. Very Useful!
Irrigation : Used by ancient Egyptions 4000 years ago. Very Useful!
hillsidedigger wrote:My point was the call for $44 billion of annual aid. Do you think any of that money would benefit anyone other than corrupt corporations and nation leaders?
Ludi wrote:How will the people afford the equipment, fertilizers, etc? These modern methods cause farmers to go into debt, ruining or, even ending, their lives.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mallika-c ... 87457.html
It might be more effective to end the Food Race rather than perpetuate it.
http://www.ishmael.org/Education/Writings/kentstate.cfm
meemoe_uk wrote:But the people-who-control-the-world's plan is to depopulate 3rd world nations.
Russian land boom could avert global famine
Vast areas of farmland lie idle, reports Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
Last Updated: 11:17pm BST 20/06/2008
Across a great arc of the Eurasian steppe from Ukraine through Russia to Kazakhstan lies enough arable land to feed the world for years to come, with spare for biofuels to help plug the energy gap.
In the days of Nikita Khrushchev - a great enthusiast for the vast Sovkhoz collectives - the Soviet Union farmed 240m hectares, badly. The same territory now farms 207m hectares. These reserves of idle soil are alone enough to meet the entire global need of 30m extra hectares over the next decade, as estimated by the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO).
The Moscow investment bank Troika Dialog says that just 43pc of the arable land in Russia is cultivated. Crop yields in the trio of leading ex-Soviet states remain at pre-modern levels. Yields can be doubled in Russia, and tripled in the Ukraine using modern kit and know-how. "The potential is tremendous," said Kingsmill Bond, Troika's chief strategist.
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From a US perspective, the cerrados equal 26% of the area of the lower 48 states--more than 510 million acres--an area larger than the US east of the Mississippi River, excluding Florida. Only about 60 million ha--about one-fourth of the cerrados--is now economically used. Of that, dryland and irrigated crops cover about 25 million ha. The rest is in pasture.
EMBRAPA, Brazil's agricultural research organization, estimates that another 100+ million ha are suited for modern mechanized crop agriculture. More recently, the USDA estimated that between 145 and 170 million hectares (402 million acres) could be opened for crop production. This means that the agricultural area yet to be opened is more than 25 percent larger than the total crop acreage of the U.S.
OilFinder2 wrote:Here we go again . . .
>>> Russian land boom could avert global famine <<<Russian land boom could avert global famine
Vast areas of farmland lie idle, reports Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
Last Updated: 11:17pm BST 20/06/2008
Across a great arc of the Eurasian steppe from Ukraine through Russia to Kazakhstan lies enough arable land to feed the world for years to come, with spare for biofuels to help plug the energy gap.
In the days of Nikita Khrushchev - a great enthusiast for the vast Sovkhoz collectives - the Soviet Union farmed 240m hectares, badly. The same territory now farms 207m hectares. These reserves of idle soil are alone enough to meet the entire global need of 30m extra hectares over the next decade, as estimated by the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO).
The Moscow investment bank Troika Dialog says that just 43pc of the arable land in Russia is cultivated. Crop yields in the trio of leading ex-Soviet states remain at pre-modern levels. Yields can be doubled in Russia, and tripled in the Ukraine using modern kit and know-how. "The potential is tremendous," said Kingsmill Bond, Troika's chief strategist.
[...]
>>> The Brazilian Savannah (Cerrado) <<<From a US perspective, the cerrados equal 26% of the area of the lower 48 states--more than 510 million acres--an area larger than the US east of the Mississippi River, excluding Florida. Only about 60 million ha--about one-fourth of the cerrados--is now economically used. Of that, dryland and irrigated crops cover about 25 million ha. The rest is in pasture.
EMBRAPA, Brazil's agricultural research organization, estimates that another 100+ million ha are suited for modern mechanized crop agriculture. More recently, the USDA estimated that between 145 and 170 million hectares (402 million acres) could be opened for crop production. This means that the agricultural area yet to be opened is more than 25 percent larger than the total crop acreage of the U.S.
Throw in the usual batch of various agricultural technologies and - bingo! - you've got Cornucopia. Not that everyone will be happy with that.
hillsidedigger wrote:There's a lot of problems with both of those places from an agriculturalists point of view, too far North and too dry, too far South and too wet.
Homesteader wrote:Yup, more of oily's cr@pola showing his ignorance. If the land was truly suitable it would already be in production.
OilFinder2 wrote:3. You can grow wheat as far north as the Yukon and Alaska. Other grains grow fine that far north too.
OilFinder2 wrote:
1. The Brazilian cerrado isn't all that wet, it has a wet season and a dry season.
2. They have varieties of soybeans and corn which can be grown in tropical climates.
3. You can grow wheat as far north as the Yukon and Alaska. Other grains grow fine that far north too.
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