noobtube wrote:It's the dirty filthy immigrants that caused the problems in the first place... I despise these immigrant leeches. Why don't they fix their own countries before coming to mine?
Newfie wrote:Sure stupid police behaviors have resulted in riots. So has absolutely correct police behaviors.
The public is seeded with the concept of victimization and then ignited with some story, true or contrived, to create a disturbance.
theluckycountry wrote:I don't fight it or even detest it. I just move away from it and live my life in peace elsewhere.
EnergyUnlimited wrote:Newfie wrote:Sure stupid police behaviors have resulted in riots. So has absolutely correct police behaviors.
One way or another behavior of officer shooting this lady was stupid at the very best but more likely premeditated murder.
You need to realize that the lady was not an armed hardened criminal but someone who probably stole a bottle of booze and tried to get away with it.
In country full of security cameras and other relevant tech there was absolutely no need to insist to stop her on the spot because in all probabilities after analyzing camera records (including vehicle registration) she could be arrested few hours later at home.
It was also stupid to stand in front of car of aggravated person in the country where 1/4 of population have some mental problems.
And if other officers cry that they cannot work because shooting a monkey is no longer permitted then tough luck - they have to go.
Training of candidates what is permitted and what will end up very badly for an officer (eg. rules of engagement) have to be amended accordingly.
EnergyUnlimited wrote:New American news published here in Poland:
https://wiadomosci.wp.pl/zastrzelila-4- ... 876720768a
Key findings:
1. Mother lost custody over her 2 daughters for non specified reason.
2. Daughters were given by court to custody of 2 women living together (lesbians?)
3. Smaller girl (4 y.o.) have eaten breakfast belonging to one of these women
4. For doing that little girl was shot and killed.
5. Woman who shot her explained that she only wanted to demonstrate that gun is safe but it didn't work.
6. She got arrested and charged with murder.
7. Biological mother will now try to regain custody over surviving daughter.
Source: wiadomości.wp.pl - our main daily internet news.
It sounds a bit surrealistic, doesn't it?
Such news are making American school shootouts looking reasonable and mainstream.
noobtube wrote:
Can't argue with that. But, it will take a fight for me, to have that option. It seems like these immigrants are everywhere, chewing up all the resources in sight. And, they head straight for the cities. What happened to this country?
theluckycountry wrote:noobtube wrote:It's the dirty filthy immigrants that caused the problems in the first place... I despise these immigrant leeches. Why don't they fix their own countries before coming to mine?
Well I won't disagree with you, but I'm a realist, they are here, now, in our countries by the invitation of our 'elected' governments in most cases. This is nothing new! This behavior was what ruined ancient Rome and many other advanced civilizations. It's just the way all empires end up. The locals get lazy and employ slaves or cheap labor and the new people overwhelm the civilization and make it barbaric.
I don't fight it or even detest it. I just move away from it and live my life in peace elsewhere.
EnergyUnlimited wrote:Newfie wrote:Sure stupid police behaviors have resulted in riots. So has absolutely correct police behaviors.
One way or another behavior of officer shooting this lady was stupid at the very best but more likely premeditated murder.
[bold] opinion only[/bold]
You need to realize that the lady was not an armed hardened criminal but someone who probably stole a bottle of booze and tried to get away with it.
[Bold] She was armed with an automobile, very lethal. [/bold]
In country full of security cameras and other relevant tech there was absolutely no need to insist to stop her on the spot because in all probabilities after analyzing camera records (including vehicle registration) she could be arrested few hours later at home.
[Bold] As you say "probability", obviously you do not know. It cohld have ended in a fatal car crash killing an innocent civillian, or a hit and run. [/bold)
It was also stupid to stand in front of car of aggravated person in the country where 1/4 of population have some mental problems.
[Bold]It was his sworn duty to "protect and serve", likely it was also his training.[/bold]
However I do not believe that police officers are so stupid not to realize such simple facts like specified above.
[Bold] I see no "facts" only opinions. [/bold]
Newfie wrote:In the USA we have trial by jury where the accused is assumed innocent until proven guilty. It works well.
theluckycountry wrote:There are immigrants and then there are immigrants. If an immigrant shares the same values and mucks in they are typically accepted. But nothing is worse than an immigrant that harps on about the 'old country' Children of immigrants can be true citizens of a nation and often are, but the ones that aren't are typically brought up to think like their parents. And then of course there are the ones that "don't look like us" They have a chip on their shoulder that never goes away.
All this modern crap about diversity and inclusiveity is just that, Crap! The only people that really believe it are the immigrants themselves who want to be able to 'fit it' and then get on with their detestable (by our standards) way of life. I won't even eat in their restaurants now. I don't want to eat off a plate handled by someone who doesn't know how to wash their hands after taking a dump. Or eat a meal that could have suspect ingredients.
Newfie wrote:She was armed with an automobile, very lethal.
As you say "probability", obviously you do not know. It cohld have ended in a fatal car crash killing an innocent civillian, or a hit and run.
It was also stupid to stand in front of car of aggravated person in the country where 1/4 of population have some mental problems.It was his sworn duty to "protect and serve", likely it was also his training.
In the USA we have trial by jury where the accused is assumed innocent until proven guilty. It works well.
noobtube wrote:Elon Musk to me typifies the kind of useless trash that is the immigrant. He contributes nothing. He knows nothing. He causes nothing but trouble for Americans. He has a bad attitude. And, has not served a day of his life for America. Who let this scumbag in the country?
EnergyUnlimited wrote:Newfie wrote:She was armed with an automobile, very lethal.
Only if you are stupid enough to put yourself in harm way and stand directly in front of it, eg purportedly put yourself in harm way.
rats in Paris are a fact of daily life and people have become so accustomed to their presence that local media jokes they’re part of the “unsavory Parisian decor.” Seeing them in restaurants is generally no cause for alarm and if you complain, more times than not, a waiter will simply tell you not to worry.
theluckycountry wrote:You seem to forget that he was a police officer, not a bystander. It's his job to put himself in harms way in the commission of his job, that to uphold the law. It's the people, the city government that bestowed these powers on the police, they don't act autonomously. They have a legal right to use lethal force under certain circumstances. I think you are judging her as an innocent because she was a) a woman and b) pregnant. If it had have been a white male drug dealer would you feel the same way?
It's not the police's job to judge such matters in the heat of an exchange, only to uphold the law and protect themselves. They have a rigid code of operations that they must adhere to and shooting someone who threatens them in the course of their duty is part of it.
EnergyUnlimited wrote:Regardless of that I will note that killing pregnant mother, regardless what she has done or not is also a murder of her baby.
theluckycountry wrote: it's why the Swiss among many others refuse to allow mass immigration,
The same for allowing all the south American animals in. Those people come from mud huts or shanty towns, they will never join what's left of the American enterprise.
theluckycountry wrote:Almost too much to comment on EU, but I will say this. You will never create harmony between the races. Not with laws, not having them cohabitate, nothing would work. All races prefer their own kind, it's why the Swiss among many others refuse to allow mass immigration, why Japan and Chine are basically for Chinese and Japanese. People of mixed races simply cannot coexist as equals in a culture. The great touted case, Canada, English and French sharing a nation together, is a disaster, they hate each other.
America imported black slaves and now that they are free the whites will have to deal with the angst until the end of time. Some things cannot be fixed or papered over. The same for allowing all the south American animals in. Those people come from mud huts or shanty towns, they will never join what's left of the American enterprise. It's over. The experiment was a failure. It's time to turn the lights out in the Lab and leave.
mousepad wrote:EnergyUnlimited wrote:Regardless of that I will note that killing pregnant mother, regardless what she has done or not is also a murder of her baby.
In many states in the US it's perfectly fine to kill a baby in the womb. It's called abortion. I gather that the leftoids flip-flop between "woman's right over her body" and "murder" at their convenience.
The UK has already fallen. Mayor of London a raghead, prime minister an indian. Next will be france followed by germany. 40% of germany is already not german.
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