Outcast_Searcher wrote:Why is housing prices falling somewhat such a big problem. With all the complaining about housing prices rising, one would think housing prices falling to more moderate levels (without an outright rapid crash) would be a WELCOME thing.
ROCKMAN wrote:Newfie - The big problem with popping off 9 rounds in a crowded restaurant is that all 9 rounds are going to hit something: the bad guy, the wall...or another customer.
Rockman wrote:Even rounds hitting the bad guy can be pass thru's that hit a customer. Most poorly trained will load autos with full metal jackets that can easily pass thru a couple of sheet rocked walls...very bad choice for home defense. Two well aimed 9 mill rounds with the right bullet design would have put the bad guy down quick. And if you didn't see the video the distance looked to be about 4' or so. You didn't need to be John Wayne to make that shot. LOL.
Rockman wrote:Adam - My small pouch can only handle the sub nose...no pockets on wheelchair. Two rounds center mass with a .38 with soft lead hollow points. At any range I would likely shoot almost instantly lethal.
Rockman wrote:Been a while but I've been shot at...a lot. So, panicking wouldn't be a problem since I don't take it personal anymore.
Rockman wrote:But at home it's a .45 Long Colt with 225-grain bullets having a muzzle velocity of 960 feet-per-second with 460 foot-pounds of energy. And carrying a very antipersonnel bullet. One round more than sufficient at 10'. Kicks like a mule but second shot recovery doesn't worry me for obvious reason.
vtsnowedin wrote: But to be realistic few have the training or the nerves to use just one or two shots as needed. And as to gun size almost any pistol will do inside the confines of a building. Even a 25 automatic. It is not the size of the gun but the ability of the shooter as a perp missed with a 500 Ruger is just as missed as one with a 22 long rifle.
Newfie wrote:I have heard a somewhat convincing argument for a 22WMR.
100 yard energy is about the same as a 22LR muzzle energy.
The difference on squirrel head shots is noticeable and significant.
Sounds like a better compromise.
I know they are available as revolvers but never looked at pistols.
Newfie wrote:I have heard a somewhat convincing argument for a 22WMR.
100 yard energy is about the same as a 22LR muzzle energy.
The difference on squirrel head shots is noticeable and significant.
Sounds like a better compromise.
I know they are available as revolvers but never looked at pistols.
vtsnowedin wrote:How many times have we seen a supposedly trained policeman empty a full clip into some perp that was already down after the first shot? Something about the adrenaline in a real shooting situation keeps the trigger finger twitching long after the need has ended.
But to be realistic few have the training or the nerves to use just one or two shots as needed. And as to gun size almost any pistol will do inside the confines of a building. Even a 25 automatic. It is not the size of the gun but the ability of the shooter as a perp missed with a 500 Ruger is just as missed as one with a 22 long rifle.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Tanada wrote:vtsnowedin wrote:How many times have we seen a supposedly trained policeman empty a full clip into some perp that was already down after the first shot? Something about the adrenaline in a real shooting situation keeps the trigger finger twitching long after the need has ended.
But to be realistic few have the training or the nerves to use just one or two shots as needed. And as to gun size almost any pistol will do inside the confines of a building. Even a 25 automatic. It is not the size of the gun but the ability of the shooter as a perp missed with a 500 Ruger is just as missed as one with a 22 long rifle.
I will just point out that John Hinckley used a .22 to wound three people including President Reagan rapid firing his revolver even as the USSS tackled him to the ground. Note that none of the USSS nor any of the police officers present discharged their weapons.
Tanada wrote:I will just point out that John Hinckley used a .22 to wound three people including President Reagan rapid firing his revolver even as the USSS tackled him to the ground. Note that none of the USSS nor any of the police officers present discharged their weapons.
"45 ACP: Because a 9mm MIGHT expand, but a 45 will NEVER shrink.
vtsnowedin wrote: Yes but if Hinckley had used something bigger like a 9mm both Reagan and Brady would probably both been dead on the scene.
Newfie wrote:Thank Hod I have no real experience with in’s and out’s of shooting people. N my mind if you have to shoot someone you are having an extremely bad day.
Newfie wrote:I do have 2 pistols, just because.
1911 each.
Edit to add quote,
"45 ACP: Because a 9mm MIGHT expand, but a 45 will NEVER shrink.
Maybe that is the answer to clip limits, bigger bullets.
Newfie wrote:My goal is to not he there when it goes sideways.
I harbor no fantasy of being a hero.
Newfie wrote:I can see the argument has some value. Yet, for me, it is because I am a hunter and have killed that I am adverse.
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