Wow.
Q must be proud.
I still can't believe the self-delusion, is it mass hysteria?
It's uncanny.
Pops wrote:Biden said trump is a liar and a loser whose ego matters more to him than democracy.
About time.
Newfie wrote:Plant.... Without Trump the D party comes apart, too many differences in the coalition.
Much the same can be said for the R’s. They rally around Trump in opposition to the D’s.
I would not be surprised to see one of the parties break apart with more central group trying to take some support from the others center part. The two parties have drawn to far to the extreme.
This may look like a:
Progressive - Center D - R grouping
Or
D - Center R - R grouping.
NOt saying it is likely, but possible.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dick-ch ... d=82112349Asked why he came to the Capitol this day [Jan 6], Cheney said, "It's an important historical event," referring to the anniversary of the insurrection. "You can't overestimate how important it is."
He added, "I'm deeply disappointed we don't have better leadership in the Republican Party to restore the Constitution."
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-fr ... urrection/According to one recent poll, 30% of Republicans agree with the statement, “Because things have gotten so far off track, true American patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save our country.” This figure is especially high among those who believe Trump’s false claim that President Biden and the Democrats stole the 2020 election.
Pops wrote:The reason to bash trump is he presents a clear threat to the republic and just ignoring him won't do.
No president ever instigated a riot with the express intention of disrupting congressional vote certification.
'Pops wrote:Play it down to make yourself feel better but this isn't over by a long shot.
Pops wrote:I never thought I'd do it but here is Dick Cheney
Pops wrote:] According to one recent poll, 30% of Republicans agree with the statement, “Because things have gotten so far off track, true American patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save our country.”
mousepad wrote: One piece at a time, and once the demwit voters realize what happened. Well by then it's too late.
AdamB wrote:mousepad wrote: One piece at a time, and once the demwit voters realize what happened. Well by then it's too late.
Oh, it isn't exclusive to Demwits, but dimwits in general. Obviously some groups have more dimwits than others.
Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes sentenced to 18 years for Capitol riot I wonder when the convictions and punishment will make its way up to the folks who ordered these American Hero DimWit Traitors into action?
mousepad wrote: You're riot with your fixation on trying to label it a riot.
AdamB wrote:Nasty stuff, goverment overthrow, etc etc.
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness
mousepad wrote:Right out of the Declaration of Independence:That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness
They were not insurgents, they were freedom fighter after all.
AdamB wrote:mousepad wrote:Right out of the Declaration of Independence:That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness
They were not insurgents, they were freedom fighter after all.
Freedom fighters...good one! Nonsense of course. But a great quote to try and frame you point around.
So what does someone who lost an election fair and square overthrowing the government have to do with "destructure of these ends"? Fair and honest elections aren't ends, to be destroyed, but to be cherished as the world's old democracy.
The quote is great. I've got one for you.
§2384. Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808 ; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §1, 70 Stat. 623 ; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148 .)
AdamB wrote:§2384. Seditious conspiracy
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
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