jedrider wrote:Newfie wrote:this craziness has deep roots
Which “crazieness” is this?
Who and what exactly are you referring to?
The French Revolution
The Nazi Take-Over of Europe
The 2020 U.S. Capitol Insurrection
2021 U.S.A.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
No, we have to be on guard against the limbic or reptile brain all of the time.
jedrider wrote:Sure, blame our problems on all of humanity. Spread it so thin so that no one in particular is at fault. Sounds to me like the secular equivalent of Original Sin.
Capitol Insurrectionist should just claim 'it was just my limbic system' that caused me to follow the dictates of that wannabe Mussolini/Hitler guy.
Newfie wrote:Evil,
I would like to add a thought of my own to complement yours above, if it fits.
We can not forgive ourselves until we learn to forgive our parents. Literally and in metaphor.
We are strongly influenced by our parents, and elders. And they by theirs, and so on. We all make mistakes and act badly at times and need forgiveness. But why we made those mistakes often comes from our forefathers. Attitudes and adaptions are handed down between generations. If we seek forgiveness then we need to extend that forgiveness and understanding backwards in time.
And so it hoes forward as well. Our children will he upset with us and what they perceive as our mistakes. Do we want to be treated with understanding and charity and forgiveness? If so then we should model those attributes in our own daily actions.
Newfie wrote:And you analysis of this part???
Here are some of the quotes from the lecture:
This is the cost of talking to white people at all. The cost of your own life, as they suck you dry. There are no good apples out there. White people make my blood boil. (Time stamp: 6:45)
I had fantasies of unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way, burying their body, and wiping my bloody hands as I walked away relatively guiltless with a bounce in my step. Like I did the world a fucking favor. (Time stamp: 7:17)
White people are out of their minds and they have been for a long time. (Time stamp: 17:06)
We are now in a psychological predicament, because white people feel that we are bullying them when we bring up race. They feel that we should be thanking them for all that they have done for us. They are confused, and so are we. We keep forgetting that directly talking about race is a waste of our breath. We are asking a demented, violent predator who thinks that they are a saint or a superhero, to accept responsibility. It ain’t gonna happen. They have five holes in their brain. It’s like banging your head against a brick wall. It’s just like sort of not a good idea. (Time stamp 17:13)
We need to remember that directly talking about race to white people is useless, because they are at the wrong level of conversation. Addressing racism assumes that white people can see and process what we are talking about. They can’t. That’s why they sound demented. They don’t even know they have a mask on. White people think it’s their actual face. We need to get to know the mask. (Time stamp 17:54)
From a white woman who claims all whites are
“ demented, violent predator” and “White people are out of their minds and they have been for a long time.”
A psychoanalyst (talk therapy!!) who says
“ talking about race is a waste of our breath.” And
“ This is the cost of talking to white people at all. The cost of your own life, as they suck you dry. There are no good apples out there. White people make my blood boil”
And then tries to hide behind a fig leaf of “fantasies” when she says
“
I had fantasies of unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way, burying their body, and wiping my bloody hands as I walked away relatively guiltless with a bounce in my step. Like I did the world a fucking favor. (Time stamp: 7:17)“
As a psychoanalyst she SHOULD know that blabbing fantasies is a lot different from having fantasies. That talking to a trained therapist in a professional setting is far different that describing the fantasies from a podium thus giving life to them.
Now here is the question to YOU.
In your posts you have a repetitive trend of saying both sides have difficulties and then slamming the one side and praising the other.
This lady is of your side. Can you see the insanity in her or do you agree with her?
From you above post, where you stepped over the notable quotes above and cherry picked the most innocuous bit of the interview it appears you are at best completely blind to the Lefts extremes, or even support them.
And that is something I am seeing n a few folks; the cultural appropriation of crimes against others. It is like the lady who claimed to he black for decades when she was in fact white. The above woman is white, but talks as if she where “a person of color.”
jedrider wrote:Sure, blame our problems on all of humanity. Spread it so thin so that no one in particular is at fault. Sounds to me like the secular equivalent of Original Sin.
Capitol Insurrectionist should just claim 'it was just my limbic system' that caused me to follow the dictates of that wannabe Mussolini/Hitler guy.
rangerone314 wrote:Anyone who thinks that you can overthrow the government by occupying a single building in this country, is a bigger moron, than the morons that waltzed in to the capitol building.
Anyone hoping for a civil war is almost certainly a moron, because the likelihood is that it would solve nothing, and the chaos and destruction would simply accelerate the inevitable collapse of the country that will result in a massive die off much earlier.
The smart thing to do is to simply plan for surviving the collapse and having a plan for rebuilding after most of the people in North America are dead.
The second-largest cities in New York and Ohio are battlegrounds between activists fighting for progressive change and establishment forces determined to prevent it.
I'm not saying it's symmetrical or anything, but just CENTRISTS against REACTIONARIES,
One of the roots of the problem as I see it," he says, "is the great American moral guilt complex. It always needs some new moral issue to feed on. It goes way back to Puritan times, when there had to be sin and guilt around somewhere. I think there's need for change and a need for reform, but I don't know why it has to be put in the form of devil theory all the time.
"I was opposed to the war from day one, along with Don Fraser in the House and a lot of other people, and I was opposed all the way through. But as that war went on I noticed a fouler and fouler type of person attaching himself to the anti-war movement. People filled with guilt and looking for an easy way out will pick a noble cause and shit on everybody in the name of this noble cause. Exactly the same kind of person who will join the police force will join the anti-police force, and between the two of them they get a whipsaw going. They whipsaw everybody back and forth until they've got a real froth going, and nothing constructive takes place.
rangerone314 wrote:Anyone who thinks that you can overthrow the government by occupying a single building in this country, is a bigger moron, than the morons that waltzed in to the capitol building.
Anyone hoping for a civil war is almost certainly a moron, because the likelihood is that it would solve nothing, and the chaos and destruction would simply accelerate the inevitable collapse of the country that will result in a massive die off much earlier.
The smart thing to do is to simply plan for surviving the collapse and having a plan for rebuilding after most of the people in North America are dead.
rangerone314 wrote:Anyone who thinks that you can overthrow the government by occupying a single building in this country, is a bigger moron, than the morons that waltzed in to the capitol building.
Anyone hoping for a civil war is almost certainly a moron, because the likelihood is that it would solve nothing, and the chaos and destruction would simply accelerate the inevitable collapse of the country that will result in a massive die off much earlier.
The smart thing to do is to simply plan for surviving the collapse and having a plan for rebuilding after most of the people in North America are dead.
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