[SeaGypsy]

Except in this case, the leaders are left in place post demolition- so it's not a revolution. Before Hillary's email scandal, she was busted by wikileaks for loads of stuff which didn't hardly rate a mention, was very clearly compromised, but still was put up as the mainstream candidate. To lose, but only just. Obama got reelected despite abject failure at either fighting insurers at home or gracefully exiting unpopular wars in the Middle East. Went on to start new wars & give even more money to the insurance industry. Even when social media destroys politicians, there is no consensus osmosis over to the mainstream- which is still controlled by the elite, still used to pump their agendas, probably to ever reducing effect, as evidenced in the unlikely election of Trump (who's tune rapidly started changing immediately after the election- what 'revolution' is this?)

The mainstream sloganeering- 'conspiracy theory', 'tin foil hat brigade'. The lumping of clear factual information which is damaging to the state or to the elite, with utter bullshit such as 'chemtrails' & 'alien abduction'- to the point where any position anyone wants to take can be reinforced or made to look ridiculous. Apparently the idea that the ministry of truth can have a monopoly on the truth has required dilution, such that the new slogan- 'fake news' & the whole ballgame of propoganda has transformed to one which has resigned itself to perpetual confusion feeding madness & inaction.

I'm not wistful for pre internet monopoly media, nor do I find the internet a great repository of the truth, but certainly prefer to have access to the alternatives.

[ralfy]

Limits to growth -> resource wars

[DesuMaiden]

Social media are based on extensive levels of energy and material resource use. Given that, what will "destroy" civilization in the long term won't be social media but limits to growth.

Also social media is completely reliant on the electricity-grid. Without industrial civilization, the electricity-grid goes away, and so does the Internet, and so does social media as a result. Of course, the limits to growth (as you've mentioned) will destroy industrial civilization and therefore social media.

But of course, before industrial civilization goes away (along with social media), there will be all sorts of irrational conspiracy theories mentioned on the Internet about why things are going down the toilet. People will blame the downfall of the USA on the Federal Reserve, The New World Order (NWO), illegal immigrants or whatever other irrational scapegoat they can conjure up, but most people will not realize the REAL reason behind the collapse is really because of humans overshooting the carrying capacity of the Earth.

[AdamB]

[quote]
download Listen to the full interview. One of the thousands of posts by Russia's Internet Research Agency that aimed to sow politcal discord in the US and potetntially help Russia's energy sector. Credit: US House of Representatives Committee on Science, Space, and Technology Russian internet trolls from the same outfit blamed for meddling in the 2016 US presidential election also created more than 9,000 social media posts designed to stir up enmity around energy and natural gas projects in the US, such as the Dakota Access Pipeline, according to a report from the Republican majority of the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. The House Science Committee, chaired by Republican Lamar Smith of Texas, prepared the report. It analyzed how that Russian troll farm — which is also under scrutiny by Special Counsel Robert Mueller — hyped controversies about pipelines, hydraulic fracturing and climate change on Facebook, Twitter and

Russian ‘green’ trolls are targeting the US energy sector

[DesuMaiden]

ironically, social media is the best way to spread disinformation/lies!

[dissident]

download Listen to the full interview. One of the thousands of posts by Russia's Internet Research Agency that aimed to sow politcal discord in the US and potetntially help Russia's energy sector. Credit: US House of Representatives Committee on Science, Space, and Technology Russian internet trolls from the same outfit blamed for meddling in the 2016 US presidential election also created more than 9,000 social media posts designed to stir up enmity around energy and natural gas projects in the US, such as the Dakota Access Pipeline, according to a report from the Republican majority of the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee. The House Science Committee, chaired by Republican Lamar Smith of Texas, prepared the report. It analyzed how that Russian troll farm — which is also under scrutiny by Special Counsel Robert Mueller — hyped controversies about pipelines, hydraulic fracturing and climate change on Facebook, Twitter and

Russian ‘green’ trolls are targeting the US energy sector

Tin foil hat rubbish. Prove it or shut up. Accusations are not evidence.

Americans are such suckers. Some two bit outfit puts out a report and that is considered revelation from God. This same cheesy smear is applied to smear Russia's Covid-19 vaccine and then at the same accuse Russia of "sabotaging" Pfizer's product. Because actually unproven mRNA vaccine questions are "Russian disinformation".

28 February 2021

Dear Sirs/Mesdames,

FOR THE URGENT PERSONAL ATTENTION OF: EMER COOKE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE EUROPEAN MEDICINES AGENCY

As physicians and scientists, we are supportive in principle of the use of new medical interventions which are appropriately developed and deployed, having obtained informed consent from the patient. This stance encompasses vaccines in the same way as therapeutics.

We note that a wide range of side effects is being reported following vaccination of previously healthy younger individuals with the gene-based COVID-19 vaccines. Moreover, there have been numerous media reports from around the world of care homes being struck by COVID-19 within days of vaccination of residents. While we recognise that these occurrences might, every one of them, have been unfortunate coincidences, we are concerned that there has been and there continues to be inadequate scrutiny of the possible causes of illness or death under these circumstances, and especially so in the absence of post-mortems examinations.

In particular, we question whether cardinal issues regarding the safety of the vaccines were adequately addressed prior to their approval by the European Medicines Agency (EMA).

As a matter of great urgency, we herewith request that the EMA provide us with responses to the following issues:

1. Following intramuscular injection, it must be expected that the gene-based vaccines will reach the bloodstream and disseminate throughout the body [1]. We request evidence that this possibility was excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.

2. If such evidence is not available, it must be expected that the vaccines will remain entrapped in the circulation and be taken up by endothelial cells. There is reason to assume that this will happen particularly at sites of slow blood flow, i.e. in small vessels and capillaries [2]. We request evidence that this probability was excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.

3. If such evidence is not available, it must be expected that during expression of the vaccines’ nucleic acids, peptides derived from the spike protein will be presented via the MHC I — pathway at the luminal surface of the cells. Many healthy individuals have CD8-lymphocytes that recognize such peptides, which may be due to prior COVID infection, but also to cross-reactions with other types of Coronavirus [3; 4] [5]. We must assume that these lymphocytes will mount an attack on the respective cells. We request evidence that this probability was excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.

4. If such evidence is not available, it must be expected that endothelial damage with subsequent triggering of blood coagulation via platelet activation will ensue at countless sites throughout the body. We request evidence that this probability was excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.

5. If such evidence is not available, it must be expected that this will lead to a drop in platelet counts, appearance of D-dimers in the blood, and to myriad ischaemic lesions throughout the body including in the brain, spinal cord and heart. Bleeding disorders might occur in the wake of this novel type of DIC-syndrome including, amongst other possibilities, profuse bleedings and haemorrhagic stroke. We request evidence that all these possibilities were excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.

6. The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein binds to the ACE2 receptor on platelets, which results in their activation [6]. Thrombocytopenia has been reported in severe cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection [7]. Thrombocytopenia has also been reported in vaccinated individuals [8]. We request evidence that the potential danger of platelet activation that would also lead to disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC) was excluded with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.

7. The sweeping across the globe of SARS-CoV-2 created a pandemic of illness associated with many deaths. However, by the time of consideration for approval of the vaccines, the health systems of most countries were no longer under imminent threat of being overwhelmed because a growing proportion of the world had already been infected and the worst of the pandemic had already abated. Consequently, we demand conclusive evidence that an actual emergency existed at the time of the EMA granting Conditional Marketing Authorisation to the manufacturers of all three vaccines, to justify their approval for use in humans by the EMA, purportedly because of such an emergency.

An established adenovirus vector vaccine approach dating back to the 1950s is "unsafe and unproven" but some GMO concoction is automatically holy. The real disinformation source is the USA.