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The end of consumerism: Our way of life is 'not viable'

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Consumerism’s Dirty Little Secret: Are We Buying All the Wro

Unread postby AdamB » Fri 19 Jan 2018, 12:25:57


I have some terrible news… You’re stranded in the desert! For three days, you’ve traveled in the heat without food or water. Your eyelids are heavy and your legs even heavier. Your lips are cracked, too dry now to even bleed. For miles and miles, all you see is sky, rock and sand. Your foot catches on a bit of rock and you fall, knees striking sand. Is this the end? But wait, over there! There’s something blue glittering in the sun. What could it be? What do you want it to be? A diamond, or a bottle of water? The Real Value of Things In Bali, Indonesia last year, I met a Japanese man who once spent six weeks homeless and living in a park. There were plenty of places to sleep, and he drank water from a fountain. For nutrition, he boiled flowers and ate them. For


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Re: The end of consumerism: Our way of life is 'not viable'

Unread postby onlooker » Fri 19 Jan 2018, 13:38:37

In brief, consumerism culture is wanton because humans are. So yes consuming too many frivolous things
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Re: Consumerism’s Dirty Little Secret: Are We Buying All the

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Fri 19 Jan 2018, 14:32:55


It's not like consumers apparently CARE. They buy what makes them feel good. Or thinks make them look good to peers/friends, whether a Tesla, a Prius, or a 12 cylinder high end super expensive sports car (just to use cars as one example).

I was lucky in that I found and read, "Money and Class in America" in about '83 to '85, when still in my mid-20's. Due to my upbringing, I was already leaning toward ignoring class and economic competition of "who can display the most 'X' as totally stupid, but Lewis Lapham solidly finished the job for me with this book.

I remember the example of the lady in NYC unhappy with the $1.5 million entryway to her mansion she'd just had refurbished to impress her friends -- in $1980ish dollars. And the intro on how the executive was claiming he was practically "starving to death" on a $250,000 income a year (again, in 1980ish dollars), due to all the status stuff like a house in South Hampton, huge travel budgets for the kids, fancy new cars every few years (ALL deemed as absolutely essential), that he claimed he had no money left for food.

"What are the odds that I can compete (or want to compete) with such people, much less billionaire tycoons?", I thought. Zero. So I resolved to ignore ALL that sh*t and just live in a way that made sense to me, re consumerism.

No muss, no fuss, no pressure. The secondary benefit was it acted like a natural screen for friends. The kind of folks who were dismissive of me because of my clothes, old car, tacky apartment on the bad side of town (but 5 minutes from work!) were folks I knew not to spend time and energy trying to be friends with.

Only 30ish years later did I truly realize how much the planet would benefit from the vast majority of people taking a similar attitude toward consumption as status or virtue.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: The end of consumerism: Our way of life is 'not viable'

Unread postby Newfie » Fri 19 Jan 2018, 21:05:24

Consumerisim is killing us, it’s a drug.
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Re: The end of consumerism: Our way of life is 'not viable'

Unread postby onlooker » Sat 20 Jan 2018, 09:19:09

IMHO those people who can't see thru the fluff are the ones who become mal-adjusted, even dis-functional. When you base your value system on something that's not real (just an appearance). Your system loses it's underlying value. You end up empty inside.

Absolutely. In fact the countries, the regions that are not preparing for a radical change in circumstances which include the end to frivolous consumption will fare even worse than other places. Sometimes, I think we get inpatient to see some sort of adaptation as most of us here realize these radical changes are coming and in a relatively short time. So, personal adaptation like some of you here have done is commendable and will probably end of being quite advantageous to you or your progeny. So beyond the material physical adjustments some of you have accomplished you and I and almost all of us here have already adjusted our mindframe. That is at least half the journey, I think.
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