Plantagenet wrote:Did anybody else even bother to read Greers article on CC? Its the first link in the first post of thread.
#1. Greer's article makes it very clear that he is not a CC denier.
#2. The criticisms in his post are not directed at "you morons" but rather at politicians and the leaders of the anti-CC movement, and their failure in Paris to enact a UN climate treaty that actually does anything about CC.
regardingpo wrote:There's something off about Greer for sure, but I have a simpler explanation - he actually wants to see climate change happen. He wants this civilization to collapse to be exact, CC is just a means to an end. That's why he writes these articles with such joy.
I could be confusing him with Kunstler, though.
ROCKMAN wrote:"...so they propose to offset this with other tax cuts to reduce the impact of the carbon tax on the poor." And, pray tell, how do you cut the income taxes on a group that typically pay littlevor no income taxes? And if it's sales taxes how much money are the poor going to save given that being poor doesn't allow much purchases and thus not much sales taxes paid?
And why would the politicians of the 5th largest producer of refinery products in the US oppose a tax that would, in theory, reduce the revenue of one of its largest employers and the tax revenue that industry generates?
Of did you mean Washington DC and just got sloppy? LOL. BTW since most Washington state politicians, especially those in Congress, are Democrats I wonder how strongly they would support a carbon tax?
ennui2 wrote:.... give a shit about AGW
Plantagenet wrote:Why not face facts?
ROCKMAN wrote:"...so they propose to offset this with other tax cuts to reduce the impact of the carbon tax on the poor." And, pray tell, how do you cut the income taxes on a group that typically pay littlevor no income taxes?
ROCKMAN wrote:And if it's sales taxes how much money are the poor going to save given that being poor doesn't allow much purchases and thus not much sales taxes paid?
ROCKMAN wrote:And why would the politicians of the 5th largest producer of refinery products in the US oppose a tax that would, in theory, reduce the revenue of one of its largest employers and the tax revenue that industry generates?
ROCKMAN wrote: did you mean Washington DC and just got sloppy? LOL.
ennui2 wrote: weren't you a Bernie supporter at one time? You've gone from supporting a socialist back to the bosom of the republican party?
Plantagenet wrote:Why do you lie so much?
Plantagenet wrote:Now that Bernie has chosen to make common cause with the corporate beast I'm supporting Jill Stein.
ennui2 wrote:I'm not lying.
Plantagenet wrote:Yes you are lying.
Plantagenet wrote:And now you're back to your nutty Sarah Palin obsession.
Plantagenet wrote:Thanks for the morning laugh.
ROCKMAN wrote: yes I was a bit confused because the conversation seemed to become a bit convoluted and it was difficult at times to understand some positions.
ROCKMAN wrote: And BTW: if the folks hauling the stuff that the poor buy see their cost go up because of a carbon tax they will raise their fees to the businesses they service that will, in turn, feel the pressure to raise the prices for everyone...including the poor.
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