Sixstrings wrote:Something I can't figure out..
Why is Hillary Clinton giving speeches and complaining about the lead water in Flint Michigan every day..
And then Bernie Sanders is too..
And people are having marches and protests and complaining and complaining and it's all a bunch of back and forth.
But the federal government doesn't just fix the darn thing. So what's up with that. Hillary Clinton is demagoguing on this issue every day, but nobody is mentioning the Democratic president in the white house right this very moment. I heaven't heard Obama say anything about Flint, and it's been months now.
Where is the EPA? Where is Obama, on this?
Obama could have got FEMA involved and got water filters out, etc. This should be Obama's katrina, but it's odd to me that Democrats just don't mention Obama at all, and rather they just campaign on this thing every day as if the lead has to stay in the water until one of them can take office in 2017.
It's like the issue is getting milked or something.
I mean goodness, Clinton's on tv right now in Flint, PRAISING Obama's overall record.. right after talking about all the lead in the water for the last thirty minutes.. so why hasn't she been criticizing Obama for having not done anything about Flint for all these months?
Lore wrote:Because it was a problem initiated by the state's Republican Governor.
ROCKMAN wrote:I have to go with my pal Lore on this one. It never was a fed problem and shouldn't be one now. IOW this is not another f*cking Katrina. LOL.
ROCKMAN wrote:I have to go with my pal Lore on this one. It never was a fed problem and shouldn't be one now. IOW this is not another f*cking Katrina. LOL.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:Right! Because the EPA should NEVER have ANY responsibility for the quality of water. They just make spread sheets, and get $billions in funding to have everyone self monitor.
If there's ever a problem, then it's always someone else's fault.
Meanwhile, there has been plenty of news about how poorly the EPA has been enforcing drinking water quality for years. Why do they continue to get a free pass for that?
Republicans Who Cut and Tried To Defund EPA Now Attack It For Not Preventing Colorado Mine Spill
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/8/11 ... Mine-Spill
Satori wrote:this problem was the DIRECT result of actions taken by the state
let the state pay for the fix
aren't the Rethugs all about taking personal responsibility ?
LOL !!!
Snyder knew about this problem for close to a year
and did NOTHING
and now he's crying crocodile tears ???
Plantagenet wrote:Lore wrote:Because it was a problem initiated by the state's Republican Governor.
The problem can be traced back to the financial exigency in Flint----a strongly democratic city with a completely incompetent D city government.
Apparently the city government in Flint was so incompetent it didn't even regularly test its own water supply.
Flint City water. No really----thats what comes out of the pipes in Flint!
ROCKMAN wrote: It never was a fed problem and shouldn't be one now..... The city of Flint is responsible for providing it's citizens with drinking water...always has been and always will be. The folks in Houston pay for their drinking water...not the US tax payer. Flint can pay to clean the pipes and filter the water. Or they can perpetually supply its citizens with bottle water. It's choice and its RESPONSIBILITY.
Plantagenet wrote:ROCKMAN wrote: It never was a fed problem and shouldn't be one now..... The city of Flint is responsible for providing it's citizens with drinking water...always has been and always will be. The folks in Houston pay for their drinking water...not the US tax payer. Flint can pay to clean the pipes and filter the water. Or they can perpetually supply its citizens with bottle water. It's choice and its RESPONSIBILITY.
Well, logically you are right, but logic is in short supply among US politicians.
This is a golden opportunity for the Ds to blame the Rs for the dirty water in Flint, never mind that Flint is a 100% D city. In fact, after prodding from Hillary the Ds have just moved one of the Hilalry vs. Bernie debates to Flint ---- the fireworks will happen in early March.
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Lore wrote: My wife is from Flint
Lore wrote: today there is now no government in Flint other then that run by the State of Michigan
Lore wrote: Rick Snyder ....usurped the people's right to their own democratically elected officials
Lore wrote:a dictator .... decided he would save roughly a dollar a month per person by using the Flint river water instead of the water they were getting from Lake Huron.
Plantagenet wrote:By any chance do you drink the water there on your visits to the in-laws? Is that the problem??? HAHAHAHAH (just kidding).
Plantagenet wrote:Thats not true. Flint just elected a new major and city council. All Ds, as has been the case for decades.
Plantagenet wrote:I thought you just claimed Flint had no government and no elected officials of its own. hahahahahahah! You must've drunk some of that water, eh?
Plantagenet wrote:More seriously, Obviously the D governments in Flint have been so incompetent they've bankrupted their own city. And that is actually the root of the problem.
Plantagenet wrote:Yes, and the river water leached the lead pipes. I know. But why wasn't the lead problem then detected immediately?
Plantagenet wrote: Answer me this----what happened to the EPA data showing the water in Flint was bad? Why did the Federal Government cover up this data and let the kids of Flint get poisoned? What about the EPA? What in heck were they doing? We know now the EPA had data showing lead was in the water----but they did nothing. Maybe the Feds were probably too busy going to training junkets to Maui?
Plantagenet wrote:And while we know the EPA sampled the water but hid the data showing he lead contamination, I can't imagine why the Flint Water Dept wasn't testing their t own water quality? Isnt that the job of the people in the Flint Water Department? Have the Ds screwed things up so badly that no one in the Water Department was even testing the city water they were responsible for?
All that was under state control. You forget the city czar was in charge at the time.Plantagenet wrote:I'm not aware that the evil dictator suspended all water testing and hid the data showing the kids were being poisoned---that particular bit of stupidity seems to land at the feet of the federal government and the EPA, as well as the water department of Flint itself.
Lore wrote:So, you're blaming the EPA .... Sounds like deflection.
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