ROCKMAN wrote:So if oil from the Canadian oil sands, which may belong to a Chinese company, is pipelined to the Texas Gulf Coast it could be shipped to China via the Panama Canal.
[/quote][/quote]British Columbia newspaper publisher David Black said China’s largest bank has agreed to provide financial backing for his proposed Kitimat-based heavy oil refinery.
C8 wrote:Its amazing how little you hear about resource nationalism from US politicians. Yeah, there is somebody here and there, but the big dawgs don't talk it much. Globalization has become the sacred cow of US politics- we will be looking at $7 a gallon gas and being told that its best for the nation to export.
I am not a nationalist BTW- just old enough to remember back in the 70' and 80's when you heard so many mainstream politicos talking about American oil for Americans (substitute steel, corn, whatever for oil).
C8 wrote:Why don't the Canadians just build their own refineries, cut out the middleman, and ship direct to China?
Oily Stuff wrote:By the way, is it OK for me to be a little pissed that the entire world wants to use the GOM and the Gulf Coast for its energy highway and parking lot? I am plumb tired of that, really. Can't drill on the East Coast, not off California, no way, Jose. Y'all go head on in the GOM, don't make a mess that we have to watch on TV (really, we don't care all that much what kind of mess you make on those ugly beaches).... just get us the oil cheap and by Gawd, don't run out. Don't want to move tar sand gunk across BC, no loading terminals off pristine Canadian coastlines? Hey, lets build a pipeline to Texas! Let the Chinese load it down there, so what if they spill a little. Refineries? LNG ports? Not here, not in our backyard, no sir. Let Louisiana try it; Louisiana likes everything.
ROCKMAN wrote:Actually all I've seen from BC politicians so far is fully giddy support. They want the jobs. It's a done deal AFAIK.
Efforts to expand production from the Alberta tar sands suffered a significant setback on Friday when the provincial government of British Columbia rejected a pipeline project because of environmental shortcomings.
In a strongly worded statement, the government of the province said it was not satisfied with the pipeline company's oil spill response plans.
The rejection of the pipeline – which was to have given Alberta an outlet to Pacific coast ports and markets in China – further raises the stakes on another controversial tar sands pipeline, Keystone XL.
Barack Obama is still weighing a decision on that pipeline, intended to pump tar sands crude to the Texas gulf coast.
British Columbia, in its official submission to a pipeline review panel, said the company had failed to demonstrate an adequate clean-up plan for the Enbridge Northern Gateway project. It set five new conditions for the project's approval.
"Northern Gateway has presented little evidence about how it will respond in the event of a spill," Christopher Jones, a lawyer representing the province, said in a statement to the federal government panel reviewing the project.
"It is not clear from the evidence that Northern Gateway will in fact be able to respond effectively to spills either from the pipeline itself, or from tankers transporting diluted bitumen," Jones added.
Jones said the pipeline would cross over remote and extremely difficult terrain, with pristine rivers that could be devastated in the event of a spill. He said those considerations compelled the province to hold the pipeline company to a higher standard. "Trust me is not good enough in this case."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... e-enbridge
The Yinka Dene Alliance, whose members' territories make-up 25% of the proposed Enbridge Northern Gateway pipeline route, say the Premiers' position on Gateway will be a litmus test for the government's new relationship with BC First Nations.
"Christy Clark has expressed a strong interest in building positive relationships with First Nations in Northern BC," said Chief Martin Louie, Nadleh Whut'en First Nation. "She can either start building that relationship by taking a strong, principled stand against the Enbridge Northern Gateway pipeline and respecting our indigenous rights and title, or she can poison the well for future discussions on resource decision-making in Northern BC, including around LNG."
Over 160 First Nations have signed the Save the Fraser Declaration, banning tar sands oil projects from their territories as a matter of indigenous law.
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release ... 792396.htm
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