Plantagenet wrote:The whole idea that socialism will stop climate change is silly. Socialists are quite capable of burning coal and building cars and spewing CO2 into the air.
Rather functionally useless than functionally dead.
Plantagenet wrote:The whole idea that socialism will stop climate change is silly. Socialists are quite capable of burning coal and building cars and spewing CO2 into the air.
Shaved Monkey wrote:Capitalism invented and thrives on planned obsolescence.
Shaved Monkey wrote:Capitalism invented and thrives on planned obsolescence.
No better way to produce lots of CO2 than to waste resources and artificially manufacture demand.
Specifically, the CO2 emissions from one iPad equal the CO2 output of a 515-mile drive. And the new iPad is responsible for more CO2 emissions than its older brothers: The new iPad emits 180 kg of CO2, compared to 130 kg and 105 kg of CO2 for the original iPad and the iPad 2, respectively. When you average out the emissions from all 55 million iPads sold (7,590,000 kg CO2), it equals the emissions of 1.2 million cars in one year.
http://mashable.com/2012/04/20/how-green-is-the-ipad/
radon1 wrote:There is still a sheer misconception with respect to what "marxism" is.... This is an objective science
Plantagenet wrote:The whole idea that socialism will stop climate change is silly. Socialists are quite capable of burning coal and building cars and spewing CO2 into the air.
Several years ago, the World Wildlife Fund called Cuba the only country in the world to have achieved sustainable development, which it measures as the improvement of the quality of human life within the carrying capacity of a country’s ecosystem.
Shaved Monkey wrote:There is only one environmentally sustainable country and its not a capitalist one....Cuba.
Plantagenet wrote:Shaved Monkey wrote:There is only one environmentally sustainable country and its not a capitalist one....Cuba.
Cuba gets all its oil from Venezuela. How is Cuba "sustainable" if it is dependent on imported oil?
And even worse, Cuba can't even afford to buy the oil it needs---Cuba is dependent on Venezuelan charity to get oil. A country definitely isn't sustainable if it is so poor it needs charity to survive.
A characteristic of Cuba-Venezuela ties is that both nations are exchanging assets among each other which are inexpensive for the sending country but of high significance for the receiving country.
Plantagenet wrote:I think you are confusing poverty with sustainability. They aren't the same thing.
Shaved Monkey wrote:Plantagenet wrote:
Cuba gets all its oil from Venezuela. How is Cuba "sustainable" if it is dependent on imported oil?
With socialism
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