Is it my imagination or have the goal posts just been moved?
JohnDenver wrote:Their powerdown did not save the environment. ...Cuba is still growing -- at a rate of 2.6% (real, 2003). Industrial production growth was 2.4% (2003). So powerdown didn't stop growth either.
Ludi wrote:I don't think Cuba is a very good test case actually, because they still get resources from outside their own system.
johnmarkos wrote:So they may have as much as they need to eat, even if they don't have as much as they want. That's a harsh distinction to have to make, IMO.
If I remember correctly, we are on the Peak Oil website which regularly predicts die-offs, an end to civilization and hand-to-hand combat over garden produce. The constant theme of many posters is that nothing can be done and that humans can never work together.
Here is a poor country that proves those assumptions wrong. The Cubans are not rich and they don't have the huge waistlines that we in the US do, but they are alive and going strong. They still have plenty of problems but they are on the way to solving them.
Come on guys, let's have a little intellectual honesty!
jato wrote:Great! We can all become Communists! I'm sure that will go over well with the people of the United States!
Well, jato, if the present government does not seem to be capable of addressing the problem... When people are hungry, they will be open to many new ideas. Think of the 30s. Just about every country moved in the direction of government intervention.
FWIW, there are more choices available than US-style oligarchy or Cuban communism.
(Thanks for the
link, EE. Great article!)