[vision-master]

Sweet, let's hope she rides again!

[IsThisRealLife]

I can call myself an expert in nuclear physics, have all sorts of websites and YouTube posts, but that doesn't make me an expert.

Claiming to be a leftwing doesn't make him so.

[Chuckmak]

For those who doubt that the NAZI's were not Socialist's here is the Yale Law Schools list of the National Socialist's 25 point programs of Hitler and the National Socialists Party (NAZI). http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/nsdappro.asp

Then they wouldn't have fought the communists throughout the 20s and early 30s. If they shared the same ideals you would've thought they would have worked together.

[Cloud9]

I wonder if any of you have thought out this desperate need by some to uncover some diabolical scheme and link this tragedy to the Tea Party? Recognize it for what it is. The under current of this passion is a psychological need to paint the Tea Party as evil, as an enemy of the state. The underlying wish here is for the state to do something about those evil right wingers and the Tea Party.

History has shown us that the first step in the rush towards genocide is the psychological process of dehumanizing the target population. It is necessary to depict them as evil, as less than human. Only after this thought process has been successfully completed can the mind justify the coming atrocity.

Reason has no place in this process. It is purely emotional. Making logical factual arguments is spitting in the wind. I know this but I must try, for if the better angles of our nature fail and the Tea Party and its supporters are successfully depicted as enemies of the state, the result will be genocide and civil war.

First off, nut cases are not unique to the right. Here you have a teacher’s union praying for the death of a governor.

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-04-09/us/t ... s?_s=PM:US

Second, it is a stretch to connect this idiot to any particular political persuasion. In fact, a review of his rants reveals an individual that plays with logic traps. He admires both the communists and the fascists.

Third, gun abolitionists must get a grip. This nation was born out of an attempt on the part of the central government to disarm the population. The current government exists because of that struggle. Any attempt to disarm the citizens of the United States would be illegitimate and would spark a revolution.

Fourth, the current government has little to fear from small arms. There are hundreds of combat aircraft that are privately owned. Private citizens are flying around the country in heavy bombers. There are hundreds of artillery pieces that are privately owned. There are thousands of legally owned machine guns in private hands. There are millions of privately owned rifles, shotguns and pistols in circulation. All of this fire power has resulted in precious little mayhem. It is simply impossible to round up and confiscate all of these weapons. Millions will be hidden and the attempt will spark a revolution.

Fifth, the most successful weapon deployed against our military and our civilian population in the last thirty years has not been a firearm of any sort. It has been an improvised explosive device. Tim McVeigh has been the most successful of our home grown terrorists. His weapon of choice was a truck load of fertilizer.

These devices are manufactured using common household items. Their components are so common and necessary to our everyday lives they are impossible to regulate. Unless you are willing to confiscate every outhouse, lock up every pound of sugar, and eliminate iron rust, the potential to build bombs will always be with us.

Gun confiscation is a placebo given to a frightened population by a power seeking politician. Playing in to his scheme will plunge the nation into the heart of darkness.

[deMolay]

Chuckmak, regardless of your opinion or mine. Those were the programs of Hitlers National Socialist Party or (NAZI) Party. The Nazi's were a Socialist Party with Socialist Programs. That was my only point. That and the fact that modern Liberals would like that information buried from the light of day.

[Chuckmak]

Chuckmak, regardless of your opinion or mine. Those were the programs of Hitlers National Socialist Party or (NAZI) Party. The Nazi's were a Socialist Party with Socialist Programs. That was my only point. That and the fact that modern Liberals would like that information buried from the light of day.

It's amazing both conservatives and liberals alike are in here trying to place the blame on each other though.

I just see him as a crazed meth head who was probably on the stuff when he went nuts.

[vision-master]

Time for some of this stuff, ha!

[Chuckmak]

Time for some of this stuff, ha!
[img]Arizona Iced Tea

Ahh...the stuff that's made in New York by a Canadian company. heh.

[Pretorian]

Just remember Pretorian. Don't bring your toy swords to a gun fight. You would be better off leaving them on the mantle piece or up your ass. Wherever they seem to fit best.

This is exactly why I want to know if by not letting RPGs and hand-held mortars to become commonly available the evil government is infringing on my rights. Exactly. So?

[PrestonSturges]

For those who doubt that the NAZI's were not Socialist's here is the Yale Law Schools list of the National Socialist's 25 point programs of Hitler and the National Socialists Party (NAZI). http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/nsdappro.asp

Wow, that's disapponting on your part.

Here we see that standard AGW denial tactic of saying "Here's a link that proves something about something," and if you go read it the thing it's not even relevant. It just proves the denier is stupid and dishonest.

When you start repeating crazy (literally crazy) bs like the kid did, at least it goes to show how people's mind get infected by stuff like "Nazis are Socialists." Take someone with paranoid schizophrenia, pump them up with crap like that, NWO, Illuminauti, UN armies, boxcars full of guillotines, Obama hypnotizing school children, and you've got someone primed for a shooting spree.

[vision-master]

Yeah, sure, you bet ya.

" We have nothing whatsoever to do with this," Palin aide. Rebecca Mansour told the talk radio host Tammy Bruce in an interview. "We never ever, ever intended it to be gun sights. It was simply cross-hairs like you'd see on maps," she said, suggesting that it is a "surveyor's symbol."

There is "nothing irresponsible about our graphic," she said.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/ ... ml?showall

[Cabrone]

When you have 'politicians' like Palin putting up pictures of opposition politicians in crosshairs and 'news' outlets that think it's OK to broadcast stuff like that shown in the link below it's hardly surprising you're going to incite nutters to shoot people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d36xEvVnF2I

I can't tell the difference between this and one of the Jihadist loons calling for a 'holy war'.

Note to Palin and Fux News: Freedom of speech comes with responsibilities.

[deMolay]

Preston in you we see the standard lIBERAL Denialists mentality of deny deny deny. Even when the source Yale is beyond reproach and the Liberal Leftwing Doper claims in his own words and the words of his daily fellow school school companions who knew him well claim otherwise. Go seek help. Yah I forgot you alreday did, but the therapy didn't work. Here in another leftwing retards words saying if they bring a knife, we'll bring a gun. Obama from his 2008 campaign ratchetting up the violence in his own words. I know you will deny he said it, or you will rationalize it, same as you and others of your ilk are trying to link Palin and the Tea Party to this wacko Leftwing Liberal Dopers actions. Here in Obama's Own words. If they bring a knife we will bring a gun.. http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/ ... fight.html

[vision-master]

If things were really this simple.

[deMolay]

Preston you and the kid probably have more in common than you think. Ritalin. Both of you were probably prescribed Ritalin while in school. Because you both desplay all the signs of ADD.

[vision-master]

So, he's a doper?

[Cloud9]

You are proving my point. Now in your mind, the members of the Tea Party are Jihadist. We all know that Jihadists are mindless fanatics who murder innocents. They cannot be reasoned with. They are machines. They turn their children into guided missiles. They have turned the womb into a weapons factory. They are less than human. They are cockroaches.

Now that you have connected the Tea Party to the Jihadists, you have completed the thought process. You are now ready to participate in the genocide. Follow the logic. Having bought into this paradigm, you must wipe out the Tea Party. You must kill them all. Your own survival depends on it.

A few hundred people who believe like you do will rip this country apart. You my friend are the real enemy.

[vision-master]

Labeling ppl, the sign of a small mind......

[PrestonSturges]

For Nickyboy, National Socialist Party Programs or NAZI Socialist Programs of Hitler. Another uneducated Liberal Nitwit:

We therefore demand:

11. The abolition of all income obtained without labor or effort.

Breaking the Servitude of Interest.

12. In view of the tremendous sacrifices in property and blood demanded of the nation by every war, personal gain from the war must be termed a crime against the nation. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.......

Summary executions, confiscation of the (Jewish) department stores, taking over the media for the state, yeah real liberal. Want to reprint something from the Betty Crocker Cook Book to prove your point?

People that cherry pick Nazism to prove that they hate it are usually embracing all the parts they left out.

Plus you cherry picked out the other parts that sounded like they'd been stolen from America, and the parts that are clearly right wing tropes like citizenship only for veterans.

Most importantly there is the part about rejecting "Jewish Materialism," which mean Marxism and Dialectic Materialism (not materialism as in love of money). As Hitler said probably hundreds of time, Nazism is a "spiritual movement" based on blood and racial identitiy while Marxism was a Materialist pseudoscientific system that believed people, animal, and the entire world could fit into their model regardless of racial identity. Nazism believes a person's identity is fixed in the blood, Marxism said it was plastic to be molded by the state.

When DiSouza says Obama is just a mulatto at the mercy of his African blood, that is watered down Nazism. People that try to dilute the meaning of the word "Nazi" like you, demolay, make it possible for professional fake pundits to mainstream Nazi ideology. Let me condense out the unneccessary words - People like you promote Nazism in America.

Anyway that document actually provides the strongest arguement that Marxism and Nazism were philosophical opposites.

But if your goal is just to impress shizophrenic teenagers, you're on the right track.

[deMolay]

Preston you Momma's boy, I posted the National Socialist 25 point plan in full, in a link, and partially to show how NAZIism is Socialism. You bandy words like a RITALIN soaked Momma's boy, your mewling is getting you no were.