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Enlightenment Now by Steven Pinker — don’t believe the false doom-mongers
Towards the end of this passionate book in praise of Enlightenment values the author sounds a defiant but plaintive note. “Persuasion by facts and logic, the most direct strategy,” Steven Pinker writes, “is not always futile.” You can almost hear the “despites” in his mind. Despite the widespread belief among fashionable intellectuals that emotions and tribal loyalties are more important and somehow more authentic than fact-based evidence. Despite the steady stream of news reports (this week including another mass school shooting) suggesting that chaos is eroding the edifice of order.
It’s just as well that Pinker — among many other things a professor of psychology at Harvard — concludes that there is some point to logical persuasion, because he has spent several hundred pages using logical persuasion. He equips the reader with the information necessary to join in a defence of “the ideals of science, reason and humanism”, at a time when they seem to be under assault.
If Pinker is an optimist concerning human capacity for reason, it’s not because he is Professor Pollyanna. He begins the book by outlining the second law of thermodynamics — which is that “the laws of probability nudge the system towards disorder or uselessness”. It is usual, in other words, that things fall apart and the centre cannot hold, from space matter to humans beings. To make them cohere, to make them make something and keep making something, takes effort. It so happens that humanity has been adapted to make that effort. It could always choose, however, out of ennui, despair or error, to stop.
One source of all three malign motivations is the taste we have for pessimism. Pinker notes that recently Pulitzer non-fiction prizes were given to “four books on genocide, three on terrorism, two on cancer and one on extinction” and none for any one of the myriad efforts to tell stories of human achievement. This suits what he calls “progressophobes” like our trendy declinist John Gray, or the American intellectual Naomi Klein, whose visceral dislike of the idea of progress is in the essentially reactionary tradition of Romanticism, ie human beings were much more properly themselves in the days before vaccination and air travel.
A good half of the book — a refutation of such progressophoboia — is a factual examination of what humanity has achieved in the past couple of centuries. The chapter on the extraordinary (and to many counterintuitive) reduction in deaths from wars or violence will be familiar to those who have read Pinker’s 2011 book, The Better Angels of Our Nature. Much of the rest is new and is designed to establish that, for all the wailing, human existence has been measurably transformed for the better by, in Pinker’s words, “the virtuous cycle of education, knowledge and wealth”.
Pinker’s canvas is a panoramic one and this review by comparison is hardly a frame in a cartoon strip, but I just want to give a flavour of the granular fun to be had here. Because in building his case he has amassed a series of stats, examples and arguments that are as entertaining as they are important.
So here goes. A taste. On health, Pinker’s “favourite example in the history of the English language” is the Wikipedia entry on smallpox, which begins, “Smallpox was an infectious disease caused by one of two virus variants . . . ” There is no country in the world where infant or child mortality today is not lower than it was in 1950. The US rate of dementia is falling not rising and the average age at diagnosis rose from 80.7 to 82.4 between 2000 and 2012. The recent spike in death from opioids is not a horrible new phenomenon but, given that the main age of those overdosing is 50, it is “largely an epidemic of the druggy baby boomer cohort reaching middle age”.
Or on wealth. Inequality is not the great cause of social problems that authors such as Thomas Piketty suggest. From the facts “it’s not obvious that people are whipped into competitive anxiety by the existence of JK Rowling and Sergey Brin, as opposed to their own, local rivals for professional, romantic and social success”. Also as societies become richer they tend to get more munificent in supporting the less fortunate.
On the planet, environmentalists are right to be worried about global warming, but wrong about nuclear power, genetic modification and other advances which some reject out of an almost punitive desire for mankind to suffer. Also beware of false doomsters. Remember peak oil? Well actually in many cases we are using things much less than we used to, and by 2070 even the world’s population will be falling. In fact “we may have reached peak children, peak farmland, peak timber, peak paper and peak car. Indeed we may be reaching peak stuff.”
I very much liked the chapter on safety written because, in Pinker’s words, “humanity’s conquest of everyday danger is a peculiarly unappreciated form of progress”. Between 1921 and 2009 in the US there was an almost 24-fold fall in the road traffic death rate. And on homicide and crime, where Pinker reminds us that far from being all round us, murders tend to be concentrated in certain countries, in certain towns in those countries, in certain neighbourhoods in those towns, and that the policies to reduce such horrors are well-understood. On terrorism Pinker re-establishes the point that the Seventies and Eighties, for those of us in the West, was peak terror.
Pinker’s point is that, when we look at the facts, we know what works. Mixed capitalist economies operating in the framework of law and basing their policies on evidence, do much better for us than any other systems. It is better to trade than not, to mingle than not, to educate than not, to argue freely than not. The facts tell us so.
But sometimes we forget or quarrel ourselves into forgetting and say that the evidence doesn’t matter or that we prefer other more congenial evidence. And that, as Pinker makes clear in the final third of the book, is the danger he sees today. The victory of Trump and the (qualified) rise of populism, as well as the new fashion for “patronal authoritarianism” (Putin and Erdogan) and the “squirrely” lack of a defence of the Enlightenment by intellectuals, is presenting a challenge to the values that have kept entropy at bay and allowed humanity to progress.
Because progress is not regarded as heroic, but “is a kind that is easy to miss while we are living through it”, it is badly undersold. Pinker uses this book to resell it. He does a pretty good job. We want to hope his efforts are not futile.
Enlightenment Now: The Case for Reason, Science, Humanism and Progress by Steven Pinker, Allen Lane, 556pp; £25
Reasons to be cheerful . . .
● In 1870 the average western European worked 66 hours a week; they now work 38 hours.
● Life expectancy in Kenya increased by ten years between 2003 and 2013, meaning the average Kenyan lived for a decade without losing a year of their remaining lifetime.
● Newspapers could truthfully have printed the headline “number of people in extreme poverty fell by 137,000 since yesterday” every day for the last 25 years.
● In 1919 an average American had to work 1,800 hours to pay for a refrigerator; in 2014 they had to work fewer than 24 hours (and their new fridge was frost-free and had an icemaker).
● Between 1820 and 1900 global income tripled. It has tripled three more times since.
178 Comments on "Enlightenment Now by Steven Pinker — don’t believe the false doom-mongers"
Cloggie on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 4:00 pm
“And there are no six billion Holocaust deniers…Only a small fringe of lunatics.”
Really? Meanwhile there are billions of internet connections, giving access to other sources of information than provided by the US media. The result:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/26/europe/holocaust-survivor-fears-deniers-are-winning-intl/index.html
Have you any idea how unpopular the US is around the world?
And where is your gaschamber proof? OK, you don’t have any, fair enough, I don’t have either.
Any idea how they acquired holocaust confessions? Torture, testicle crushing to be precise:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=123500
Nice people, History will judge harsly over you, rest assured.
Already made progress with your announced nuking of China, India and Russia, you lunatic? And how about your intention to rape Taylor Swift? Have you any idea what a zombie you are?
MASTERMIND on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 4:12 pm
Clogg
You did exactly what i said you would do above..TheTruthSeeker? LOL You are a nut job! It says its the TRUTH so it must be true! No questioning and no common sense needed!
GregT on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 5:47 pm
“Someone should turn your name into the authorities. It is Canadians like you that represent a potential terrorist threat.”
Did you submit that piece to your local news station, with your full name, address, and telephone number, explaining to everyone how you just can’t understand why people got so upset about the Las Vegas concert massacre? I’m guessing you didn’t, because if you did, you’d likely be lynched by now, or behind bars.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 5:57 pm
greggie you are another potential terrorist that needs to me on a list. Lot of you hate up there in the butt hole of the continent.
GregT on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 6:07 pm
I would be one of those billions of people that found the Las Vegas massacre to be extremely upsetting Davy.
You’re the one who has serious issues buddy. The poster child for criminal and psychological background checks.
Somebody really needs to report your sorry ass to the authorities, before you hurt yourself, or God forbid, someone else.
makati1 on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 6:09 pm
Greg, Davy is behind self-made bars of delusion and hypocrisy. He is trapped in his little world of denial and the need to be supported by his family and his government’s plundering in his name. Unable to accept that at least 6,000,000,000 people would cheer if the US went down. Many of them would be Americans like me.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 6:10 pm
shut up gun freak greggie. It upset all of us and you playing your staking and pricking games with the incident makes you a sick person. You dumbass extremist anti-American Canadian pricks like when Americans die. You say it all the time hypocrite.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 6:12 pm
“Unable to accept that at least 6,000,000,000 people would cheer if the US went down.”
I am surprised you can count that high billy 3rd world being a school drop out. That is a big number for a dumbass.
GregT on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 6:31 pm
Davy on Mon, 2nd Oct 2017 9:45 am
“I am not sure why everyone is so upset. This is the reality of the brave new world we live in.”
“The car culture kills 50,000 people a year or something. 20 dead is a drop in the bucket.”
“We need to quit whining and start excepting responsibility for what we have become.”
You are an enabler Davy. Your attitude in regards to mass murder on American soil is completely unacceptable.
Those 58 people all had lives ahead of them Davy. They had friends, families, and loved ones.
You are one sick individual.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 6:41 pm
Right gun freak greggie and others have made the same kind of comment. I stand by what I said. This is part of our brave new world. Get used to it. What is scary is our backstabbing neighbors to the north enjoying Americans dying. I know your boyfriend billy 3rd world does. He is absolutely beside himself when Americans die. He preaches is daily and repetitively. Why don’t you ask your other boyfriend the Canadian weasel (Anonymouse1)? He probably ejaculates when the subject comes up. Oh, your closet Nazi boyfriend, nedernazi, well he just loves American deaths too especially colored ones. Tell the world about your Nazi tendencies why don’t you. Your gang is disgusting gun freak greggie and you are the enabler behind it all. The fake respectability is nauseous.
GregT on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 6:50 pm
“I am not sure why everyone is so upset.”
“20 dead is a drop in the bucket.”
Completely unacceptable Davy. You are one seriously messed up individual.
GregT on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 6:57 pm
“This is part of our brave new world. Get used to it.”
It is part of the American culture, and there are ways to stop the frequencies of these events from happening in the future.
And no Davy, I will never get used to mass killings on American soil. Completely unacceptable.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 7:09 pm
Gun freak greggie, you didn’t answer my question did you? The reason is you can’t. All your friend enjoy the death of Americans. You do too but a hypocrite like you enables other to say these things. You are too self conscious of your fake respectability to say how you really feel. Better for billy 3rd world and the weasel say it and then you can flank any criticism and stay above the gore. You are sick gun freak greggie.
makati1 on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 7:15 pm
Greg, maybe if it were his children (if he has any) that were shot down, he would feel different? Nah! He would probably just call it “collateral damage” and part of the “brave new world”. Sick.
GregT on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 7:28 pm
“Gun freak greggie, you didn’t answer my question did you? The reason is you can’t. All your friend enjoy the death of Americans.”
I have no control over what other people think or do Davy, and neither do you. They are entitled to their own opinions, just like everybody else. They are not my friends, I have never met them, and I don’t even know who they are. There is no gang, other than the one in your own sick delusional little mind.
I will never get used to the mass killings that are happening all too often on American soil, no matter how much you would like me to. You are the one who said that ““20 dead is a drop in the bucket”. I do not subscribe to your point of view. Those people did not deserve to be gunned down in cold blood, at a music festival no less.
I have made my thoughts on the issue crystal clear. Keep spinning it all you like, you’re only making yourself look even more deranged, than you already have.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 7:42 pm
Gun freak greggie is a liar. Greggie, is playing his games again denying he is part of billy 3rd world’s message of hate and death for Americans. Gun freak greggie, the company you keep rubs off on you. Your best friend billy 3rd world revels in American deaths. Can you say this is not true?
GregT on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 7:56 pm
Makati is an American Davy. He has had enough of the mass murdering spree that his government has been on for the past 60 years. On that point, I fully agree with him. The sooner the empire collapses, the better.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 8:11 pm
Gun freak greggie covering for 3rd world billy’s American death lust. Greggie, you are not even mentioning your cousin the weasel anonymous. I think he enjoys Americans dying more than 3rd world billy. You are a disgusting person greggie supporting these horrible people then trying to act all respectable. You can’t wash that blood off your hands.
GregT on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 8:20 pm
The biggest threat facing America today Davy, is in Washington DC. If those assholes are not brought under control, they’ll likely ignite WW3. That war will not be fought on foreign soil alone Davy. The next WW will be fought on American soil as well. Nuclear, or not.
Anonymouse1 on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 8:29 pm
When WWIII does come to amerika, the exceptionalist is ready and willing…..to fight to the last goat.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 8:32 pm
Greggie, that’s one thing about you and that is your view the end justfys the means. This means the death lust billy 3rd world has for Americans is ok becuase, you know, the US is a danger to the world so all Americans are accomplices. This is what billy 3rd world tells us daily. You enable billy 3rd world so this means you support his views more or less. Any comment on that gun freak greggie?
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 8:51 pm
Greggie, you just got help from your cousin. You Canadians are sure tight. I guess that means you have more explaining. The anonymous weasel also likes when Americans die. You two are tight so this likely means you support his view of the benefits to the world of American deaths, right? Any comment on that gun freak greggie?
MASTERMIND on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 9:26 pm
Greg
You are a disgusting Nazi supporter…What the fuck is wrong with you? Then you turn around and argue that the US is a bunch of rabid killers…
GregT on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 9:53 pm
“You two are tight so this likely means you support his view of the benefits to the world of American deaths, right? Any comment on that gun freak greggie?”
For starters Davy, I am not a gun freak, and my given first name is David. Anonymouse1 is not my cousin, we are not tight, and I do not condone violence, murder, or war, in any way.
The largest cause of unnecessary American deaths is from the MIC itself, putting young Americans in harms way for the benefit of a select few, at the expense of the many. The best thing that could happen for all Americans, would be to shut down all foreign military bases, bring the troops back home, and spend that money on healthcare, infrastructure, and paying down 20 Trillion dollars in national debt.
No other nation is threatening the US of A, and there is absolutely no need for the continuous offensive warmongering. The rest of the world has absolutely had enough, and the next big war will be coming to America, if you guys don’t get your shit together.
MASTERMIND on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 10:00 pm
Peer Reviewed Study: Society Could Collapse In A Decade, Predicts Math Historian (Turchin, 2010)
https://www.nature.com/articles/463608a
NASA Peer Reviewed Study: Industrial Civilization is Headed for Irreversible Collapse (Motesharrei, 2014)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800914000615
The Royal Society: Peer Reviewed Study, Now for the First Time A Global Collapse Appears Likely (Ehrlich, 2013)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3574335/
Peer Reviewed Study: Limits to Growth was Right. Research Shows We’re Nearing Global Collapse (Turner, 2014)
http://sustainable.unimelb.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/MSSI-ResearchPaper-4_Turner_2014.pdf
Peer Reviewed Study: Financial System Supply-Chain Cross-Contagion: Global Systemic Collapse (Korowicz, 2012)
http://www.feasta.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Trade-Off1.pdf
makati1 on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 10:09 pm
Greg, they will NEVER “get their shit together”. TPTB have them all brainwashed to march in lockstep like Te Nazi Gestapo only worse. Hitler threatened Europe and Russia. America threatens the world with total destruction and extinction. Insanity of the highest order.
I do not see any significant return to sanity by Americans. The smart ones are leaving by the thousands every year. The others are either in denial or are too ingrained (greedy) in the system of bennies and an easy life, to want to voluntarily downsize or take to the streets and hang the warmongers and their enablers.
Yes, I see the US being destroyed in WW3. Totally. Like Dresden* in WW2 or worse (nukes). Americans think they are invulnerable. They need to be convinced otherwise and soon. Time is running out.
http://www.businessinsider.com/photos-dresden-germany-bombing-world-war-ii-2018-2
THIS is what needs to happen to NYC, DC, etc.
Cloggie on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 10:38 pm
“You are a disgusting Nazi supporter”
According to empire freaks like davy and millimind, everybody is a (hollywood) natzi who doesn’t fancy becoming a forced member of that empire of theirs. There are a lot of those natzis in the world, billions to be precise:
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-09-27/america-s-new-world-order-is-officially-dead
OMG and now there are even natzi’s within the US, who have enough of third world USA, the likes of davy and millimind are promoting:
https://youtu.be/AshSwM7r8Fg
You want to know how the US will come to its end? Because in the end of the day, a sufficient number of European-Americans, like Spencer, will prefer Europe over Washington.
Egalitarians like davy and millimind hate Europe. They never forgive that their ancestors, the underclasses of Europe, couldn’t make it there and sought a better life in the New World, where you could acquire free land by shooting a few “Indians”.
Here is a good French-European picture of the American mindset:
https://www.radixjournal.com/2018/01/america-a-view-from-the-french-new-right/
There is this glee with folks like davy, boat and millimind with the destruction of Europe in WW2 at their hands (“we kicked your asses”). We in Europe would make a tremendous mistake if we would count on non-existing “identitarianism” from their side, just because they have a white skin. There isn’t any blood-loyalty from their side, that would be “racism”. Americans like davy, millimind and boat are to be seen as the world’s maffia who will never stop destroying other countries… until they are stopped. And that can only be done by a combined force of Europeans, Russians and Chinese, just like Americans knew they could destroy Europe together with the USSR and prepared for it since 1933. We Eurasians should realize that war with the US is inevitable and that folks like Spencer can be used to drive a wedge between Americans in order to split it up. Message to the Spencerites: yes you can live European lives but for that you need to rise up. Only then can we come to your aid when the Chinese have a good time with the US fleet in the South-China Sea and are busy swallowing Taiwan and Down Under, because they know they can get away with it in the eyes of Europe and Russia.
Europe never attacked America, but that should change. But we should let the US fire the first shot, for the history books, and let them walk into the Eurasian knife.
https://youtu.be/yfFJiluFbp4
https://youtu.be/u5-dkvfJfWI
https://www.rt.com/news/387313-us-losing-leadership-eu-mogherini/
Go.
MASTERMIND on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 10:58 pm
Clogg
Spencer got blasted in his grill by Anti Fa..He is a total pussy!
MASTERMIND on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 11:13 pm
Madkat
Those pictures are not even that bad..You over exaggerate everything. You are just a pathetic loser and traitor. And your shit hole country is going down well before we do..You uneducated carpenter magic Mormon underwear!
MASTERMIND on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 11:18 pm
Clogg
Carl Sagan always said “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”
And some shitty youtube videos and one bloomberg article from the MSM is not extraordinary evidence. You are so naive and easily fooled…Typical Euro trash…
GregT on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 11:21 pm
“And your shit hole country is going down well before we do”
Makati is an American citizen MM. His ‘shit hole’ country is the US of A.
MASTERMIND on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 11:51 pm
Greg
Why the fuck do you always fucking chime in to say the same fucking thing…Madkat is an American citizen..I fucking already realize that he is on paper. But when you leave the country and wish death to us that makes your citizen ship void. Its like you think you are some sort of genius and have to correct others all the time..That is the only thing you do on this board besides sticking up for Nazi’s..Do me a favor please..Post something interesting to talk about for once in your life..I bet you cant though because you fundamentalist gun nut jobs…Are about as interesting as watching paint dry.
GregT on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 11:52 pm
“And some shitty youtube videos and one bloomberg article from the MSM is not extraordinary evidence.”
Is English a second language for you MM? Or did you not make it through grade school? Just asking, because your English language skills are miles below sub par.
makati1 on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 11:54 pm
Greg, that FACT does not seem to sink into the “intelligent” mind of MM.
“MY” country is the US for the last 73 1/2 years, and always will be. That does not make me blind to the horror that it is and what it will become. You are correct in that I am tired of supporting the evil terrorist empire with my taxes and presence. Therefore, I left and pay ZERO taxes to the US. I watch from a far safer vantage point.
I am also cheering it’s downfall and hope it happens while there is still something left for future humans and ecosystem. The US is an arrogant, spoiled, warmongering bully and needs to be disciplined harshly on its home ground. I number with the billions also wishing for the same thing.
GregT on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 12:00 am
“Why the fuck do you always fucking chime in to say the same fucking thing”
Because Makati1 has been an American citizen for far longer than you’ve been alive, and Makati1 is a true patriot. You, on the other hand, are an enabler. It is the idiots such as yourself who are most responsible for the downfall of Makati’s once great country.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 12:02 am
Madkat
You are just an old washed up hag.And misery loves company..That is why you are cheering on the US collapse..You want others to feel as hollow and as rotten as you do on the inside…That must be what several decades of involuntary celibacy will do to a man….You fucking do gooder too bad you couldn’t do good in marriage…LOL
GregT on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 12:07 am
“You fucking do gooder too bad you couldn’t do good in marriage”
I’m sure that makati1 actually lived with his wife MM.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 12:08 am
Greg
How exactly am I reasonable of the downfall of America? I have never voted once for the swamp monsters in DC..If I could send them all to jail I would in a nano second….There is nothing I can do to change anything. And there isn’t even enough time to change anything..And why don’t you and madkat ever talk about anything good the USA does? Like donate the most goods to charity worldwide? Like taking in the most refugees of any other country on earth? Like helping to defeat the Nazi’s in WW2? No of course not..That would destroy you convictions.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 12:14 am
Greg and Madkat
Muh feelings! Those baaad people in the USA…Muh feelings! They must be stopped so we can have world peace and sing koombaya while Putin thumps a drum! LOL If the US was gone it would create a vacuum that some other country would fill…Maybe if either of you went to college and learned things like ethology and evolutionary biology you would understand this…You both have seen too many disney movies and live in a fantasy land of good vs evil..
GregT on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 12:14 am
“And why don’t you and madkat ever talk about anything good the USA does? Like donate the most goods to charity worldwide?”
If I was a mass murderer, donating money to UNICEF would not make me a good person.
GregT on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 12:17 am
“Muh feelings! Those baaad people in the USA…Muh feelings!”
Muh isn’t a word in the English language MM.
GregT on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 12:20 am
“Maybe if either of you went to college and learned things like ethology and evolutionary biology you would understand this”
You don’t have the slightest clue about my background MM, but it is blatantly obvious that you don’t have a post secondary education. Your English skills aren’t even up to grade school par.
makati1 on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 2:16 am
MM: US foreign aid/charities are about $20,000,000,000/yr vs US military costs in foreign wars are about $1,500,000,000,000/yr or about 7 1/2 times MORE costs to bomb the poor than to give them aid. Prove me wrong with real refs, not ancient bullshit.
BTW: A college degree of paper does NOT equate to intelligence or being educated. It only means you attended enough classes between hangovers to pass. Snowflakes are NOT intelligent OR educated. They are brainwashed. just like you. Food for thought Muddymind.
AND, I DID Take biology in high school AND college. Also physics, chemistry and psychology, at an Ivy League school. I bet my classes were even better than what passes for classes today. Much better.
Davy on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 4:59 am
“I am not a gun freak”
“Fact” you have more guns than anyone on this board it is documented on this board.
“Anonymouse1 is not my cousin”
DUH, No shit dumbass.
“we are not tight, and I do not condone violence, murder, or war, in any way.”
Liar, you enable his hateful nasty comments constantly. The weasel wants Americans dead and you do to you are just too self-conscious of you fake respectability to come out and say it. If the US collapsed and many died it would satisfy your means to an end. This is clear from my 5 years of following your dumbass.
Davy on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 5:04 am
“Yes, I see the US being destroyed in WW3. Totally. Like Dresden* in WW2 or worse (nukes).”
I rest my case. Billy 3rd world, The anonymous weasel and their enablers are all about the destructive end of the US and this involves mass deaths. The will this in their minds. Sick people want things like this. The ends justify the means. The agenda gets so powerful in these sick people they believe many of the extreme things they say. They don’t see the balanced side of the story. This is the nature of extremism everywhere in this world. Greggie, the weasel, and billy 3rd world are perfect examples of this.
Davy on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 5:08 am
“Egalitarians like davy and millimind hate Europe.”
Just whack job EuroNazi’s like you nedernazi who want my violent death. I married Europe and my offspring is Europe. These are the good side of Europe. You are the evil side.
“Europe never attacked America, but that should change. But we should let the US fire the first shot, for the history books, and let them walk into the Eurasian knife.”
The wacko extremist Eurotard is just itching for a fight. He is so full of hate and resentment. DISGUSTING!
Davy on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 5:12 am
“I am also cheering it’s downfall and hope it happens while there is still something left for future humans and ecosystem. The US is an arrogant, spoiled, warmongering bully and needs to be disciplined harshly on its home ground. I number with the billions also wishing for the same thing.”
I rest my case again. Billy 3rd world wants American dead. He delusionally thinks he has the hearts and minds of billions. Extremist megalomaniacs act this way. They start getting grandiose and all knowing.
Davy on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 5:18 am
“Because Makati1 has been an American citizen for far longer than you’ve been alive”
Billy 3rd world is a traitor the worst type of citizen. It is one thing to criticize a country but rabidly call for its destruction is a vastly different attribute not related to citizenship. You support this shit gun freak greggie.
“Makati1 is a true patriot.”
Billy 3rd world is a disgusting lying wretch. He spends his days here telling us how wonderful he is and how bad others are. This is much like you gun freak. You think you are a wonderful person and want everyone to know this.
Davy on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 5:22 am
“BTW: A college degree of paper does NOT equate to intelligence or being educated.”
It is a demonstration of intelligence if one can make it through college and no drop out like you did.
“It only means you attended enough classes between hangovers to pass. Snowflakes are NOT intelligent OR educated. They are brainwashed. just like you. Food for thought Muddymind.”
More blather from the college drop out.
“AND, I DID Take biology in high school AND college. Also physics, chemistry and psychology, at an Ivy League school. I bet my classes were even better than what passes for classes today. Much better.”
It does not matter billy 3rd world you quit after the first semester. You quit your marriage. You quit your family. You quit your church. You quit your country. That is the definition of a failure. Now you live off that country and are spending everyday of your short remainder of your life talking bad about everything about it.
fmr paultard on Mon, 19th Feb 2018 6:40 am
Exceptionalist Davy, when was the last time your old lady gave you a good bitch slappin’? Obviously, you are long overdue. I would also speculate you are in desperate need of a good cornholing or a very brisk cornhusking, although in Missouri you should be able to take care of this need without delay.
Answer truthfully.