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America—the Grim Truth

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Americans, I have some bad news for you:

You have the worst quality of life in the developed world—by a wide margin.

If you had any idea of how people really lived in Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and many parts of Asia, you’d be rioting in the streets calling for a better life. In fact, the average Australian or Singaporean taxi driver has a much better standard of living than the typical American white-collar worker.

I know this because I am an American, and I escaped from the prison you call home.

I have lived all around the world, in wealthy countries and poor ones, and there is only one country I would never consider living in again: The United States of America. The mere thought of it fills me with dread.

Consider this: you are the only people in the developed world without a single-payer health system. Everyone in Western Europe, Japan, Canada, Australia, Singapore and New Zealand has a single-payer system. If they get sick, they can devote all their energies to getting well. If you get sick, you have to battle two things at once: your illness and the fear of financial ruin. Millions of Americans go bankrupt every year due to medical bills, and tens of thousands die each year because they have no insurance or insufficient insurance. And don’t believe for a second that rot about America having the world’s best medical care or the shortest waiting lists: I’ve been to hospitals in Australia, New Zealand, Europe, Singapore, and Thailand, and every one was better than the “good” hospital I used to go to back home. The waits were shorter, the facilities more comfortable, and the doctors just as good.

This is ironic, because you need a good health system more than anyone else in the world. Why? Because your lifestyle is almost designed to make you sick.

Let’s start with your diet: Much of the beef you eat has been exposed to fecal matter in processing. Your chicken is contaminated with salmonella. Your stock animals and poultry are pumped full of growth hormones and antibiotics. In most other countries, the government would act to protect consumers from this sort of thing; in the United States, the government is bought off by industry to prevent any effective regulations or inspections. In a few years, the majority of all the produce for sale in the United States will be from genetically modified crops, thanks to the cozy relationship between Monsanto Corporation and the United States government. Worse still, due to the vast quantities of high-fructose corn syrup Americans consume, fully one-third of children born in the United States today will be diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes at some point in their lives.

Of course, it’s not just the food that’s killing you, it’s the drugs. If you show any sign of life when you’re young, they’ll put you on Ritalin. Then, when you get old enough to take a good look around, you’ll get depressed, so they’ll give you Prozac. If you’re a man, this will render you chemically impotent, so you’ll need Viagra to get it up. Meanwhile, your steady diet of trans-fat-laden food is guaranteed to give you high cholesterol, so you’ll get a prescription for Lipitor. Finally, at the end of the day, you’ll lay awake at night worrying about losing your health plan, so you’ll need Lunesta to go to sleep.

With a diet guaranteed to make you sick and a health system designed to make sure you stay that way, what you really need is a long vacation somewhere. Unfortunately, you probably can’t take one. I’ll let you in on little secret: if you go to the beaches of Thailand, the mountains of Nepal, or the coral reefs of Australia, you’ll probably be the only American in sight. And you’ll be surrounded crowds of happy Germans, French, Italians, Israelis, Scandinavians and wealthy Asians. Why? Because they’re paid well enough to afford to visit these places AND they can take vacations long enough to do so. Even if you could scrape together enough money to go to one of these incredible places, by the time you recovered from your jetlag, it would time to get on a plane and rush back to your job.

If you think I’m making this up, check the stats on average annual vacation days by country:

Finland: 44
Italy: 42
France: 39
Germany: 35
UK: 25
Japan: 18
USA: 12

The fact is, they work you like dogs in the United States. This should come as no surprise: the United States never got away from the plantation/sweat shop labor model and any real labor movement was brutally suppressed. Unless you happen to be a member of the ownership class, your options are pretty much limited to barely surviving on service-sector wages or playing musical chairs for a spot in a cubicle (a spot that will be outsourced to India next week anyway). The very best you can hope for is to get a professional degree and then milk the system for a slice of the middle-class pie. And even those who claw their way into the middle class are but one illness or job loss away from poverty. Your jobs aren’t secure. Your company has no loyalty to you. They’ll play you off against your coworkers for as long as it suits them, then they’ll get rid of you.

Of course, you don’t have any choice in the matter: the system is designed this way. In most countries in the developed world, higher education is either free or heavily subsidized; in the United States, a university degree can set you back over US$100,000. Thus, you enter the working world with a crushing debt. Forget about taking a year off to travel the world and find yourself – you’ve got to start working or watch your credit rating plummet.

If you’re “lucky,” you might even land a job good enough to qualify you for a home loan. And then you’ll spend half your working life just paying the interest on the loan – welcome to the world of American debt slavery. America has the illusion of great wealth because there’s a lot of “stuff” around, but who really owns it? In real terms, the average American is poorer than the poorest ghetto dweller in Manila, because at least they have no debts. If they want to pack up and leave, they can; if you want to leave, you can’t, because you’ve got debts to pay.

All this begs the question: Why would anyone put up with this? Ask any American and you’ll get the same answer: because America is the freest country on earth. If you believe this, I’ve got some more bad news for you: America is actually among the least free countries on earth. Your piss is tested, your emails and phone calls are monitored, your medical records are gathered, and you are never more than one stray comment away from writhing on the ground with two Taser prongs in your ass.

And that’s just physical freedom. Mentally, you are truly imprisoned. You don’t even know the degree to which you are tormented by fears of medical bankruptcy, job loss, homelessness and violent crime because you’ve never lived in a country where there is no need to worry about such things.

But it goes much deeper than mere surveillance and anxiety. The fact is, you are not free because your country has been taken over and occupied by another government. Fully 70% of your tax dollars go to the Pentagon, and the Pentagon is the real government of the United States. You are required under pain of death to pay taxes to this occupying government. If you’re from the less fortunate classes, you are also required to serve and die in their endless wars, or send your sons and daughters to do so. You have no choice in the matter: there is a socioeconomic draft system in the United States that provides a steady stream of cannon fodder for the military.

If you call a life of surveillance, anxiety and ceaseless toil in the service of a government you didn’t elect “freedom,” then you and I have a very different idea of what that word means.

If there was some chance that the country could be changed, there might be reason for hope. But can you honestly look around and conclude that anything is going to change? Where would the change come from? The people? Take a good look at your compatriots: the working class in the United States has been brutally propagandized by jackals like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity. Members of the working class have been taught to lick the boots of their masters and then bend over for another kick in the ass. They’ve got these people so well trained that they’ll take up arms against the other half of the working class as soon as their masters give the word.

If the people cannot make a change, how about the media? Not a chance. From Fox News to the New York Times, the mass media in the United States is nothing but the public relations wing of the corporatocracy, primarily the military industrial complex. At least the citizens of the former Soviet Union knew that their news was bullshit. In America, you grow up thinking you’ve got a free media, which makes the propaganda doubly effective. If you don’t think American media is mere corporate propaganda, ask yourself the following question: have you ever heard a major American news outlet suggest that the country could fund a single-payer health system by cutting military spending?

If change can’t come from the people or the media, the only other potential source of change would be the politicians. Unfortunately, the American political process is among the most corrupt in the world. In every country on earth, one expects politicians to take bribes from the rich. But this generally happens in secret, behind the closed doors of their elite clubs. In the United States, this sort of political corruption is done in broad daylight, as part of legal, accepted, standard operating procedure. In the United States, they merely call these bribes campaign donations, political action committees and lobbyists. One can no more expect the politicians to change this system than one can expect a man to take an axe and chop his own legs out from underneath him.

No, the United States of America is not going to change for the better. The only change will be for the worse. And when I say worse, I mean much worse. As we speak, the economic system that sustained the country during the post-war years is collapsing. The United States maxed out its “credit card” sometime in 2008 and now its lenders, starting with China, are in the process of laying the foundations for a new monetary system to replace the Anglo-American “petro-dollar” system. As soon as there is a viable alternative to the US dollar, the greenback will sink like a stone.

While the United States was running up crushing levels of debt, it was also busy shipping its manufacturing jobs and white-collar jobs overseas, and letting its infrastructure fall to pieces. Meanwhile, Asian and European countries were investing in education, infrastructure and raw materials. Even if the United States tried to rebuild a real economy (as opposed to a service/financial economy) do think American workers would ever be able to compete with the workers of China or Europe? Have you ever seen a Japanese or German factory? Have you ever met a Singaporean or Chinese worker?

There are only two possible futures facing the United States, and neither one is pretty. The best case is a slow but orderly decline – essentially a continuation of what’s been happening for the last two decades. Wages will drop, unemployment will rise, Medicare and Social Security benefits will be slashed, the currency will decline in value, and the disparity of wealth will spiral out of control until the United States starts to resemble Mexico or the Philippines – tiny islands of wealth surrounded by great poverty (the country is already halfway there).

Equally likely is a sudden collapse, perhaps brought about by a rapid flight from the US dollar by creditor nations like China, Japan, Korea and the OPEC nations. A related possibility would be a default by the United States government on its vast debt. One look at the financial balance sheet of the US government should convince you how likely this is: governmental spending is skyrocketing and tax receipts are plummeting – something has to give. If either of these scenarios plays out, the resulting depression will make the present recession look like a walk in the park.

Whether the collapse is gradual or gut-wrenchingly sudden, the results will be chaos, civil strife and fascism. Let’s face it: the United States is like the former Yugoslavia – a collection of mutually antagonistic cultures united in name only. You’ve got your own version of the Taliban: right-wing Christian fundamentalists who actively loathe the idea of secular Constitutional government. You’ve got a vast intellectual underclass that has spent the last few decades soaking up Fox News and talk radio propaganda, eager to blame the collapse on Democrats, gays and immigrants. You’ve got a ruthless ownership class that will use all the means at its disposal to protect its wealth from the starving masses.

On top of all that you’ve got vast factory farms, sprawling suburbs and a truck-based shipping system, all of it entirely dependent on oil that is about to become completely unaffordable. And you’ve got guns. Lots of guns. In short: the United States is about to become a very unwholesome place to be.

Right now, the government is building fences and walls along its northern and southern borders. Right now, the government is working on a national ID system (soon to be fitted with biometric features). Right now, the government is building a surveillance state so extensive that they will be able to follow your every move, online, in the street and across borders. If you think this is just to protect you from “terrorists,” then you’re sadly mistaken. Once the shit really hits the fan, do you really think you’ll just be able to jump into the old station wagon, drive across the Canadian border and spend the rest of your days fishing and drinking Molson? No, the government is going to lock the place down. They don’t want their tax base escaping. They don’t want their “recruits” escaping. They don’t want YOU escaping.

I am not writing this to scare you. I write this to you as a friend. If you are able to read and understand what I’ve written here, then you are a member of a small minority in the United States. You are a minority in a country that has no place for you.

So what should you do?

You should leave the United States of America.

If you’re young, you’ve got plenty of choices: you can teach English in the Middle East, Asia or Europe. Or you can go to university or graduate school abroad and start building skills that will qualify you for a work visa. If you’ve already got some real work skills, you can apply to emigrate to any number of countries as a skilled immigrant. If you are older and you’ve got some savings, you can retire to a place like Costa Rica or the Philippines. If you can’t qualify for a work, student or retirement visa, don’t let that stop you – travel on a tourist visa to a country that appeals to you and talk to the expats you meet there. Whatever you do, go speak to an immigration lawyer as soon as you can. Find out exactly how to get on a path that will lead to permanent residence and eventually citizenship in the country of your choice.

You will not be alone. There are millions of Americans just like me living outside the United States. Living lives much more fulfilling, peaceful, free and abundant than we ever could have attained back home. Some of us happened upon these lives by accident – we tried a year abroad and found that we liked it – others made a conscious decision to pack up and leave for good. You’ll find us in Canada, all over Europe, in many parts of Asia, in Australia and New Zealand, and in most other countries of the globe. Do we miss our friends and family? Yes. Do we occasionally miss aspects of our former country? Yes. Do we plan on ever living again in the United States? Never. And those of us with permanent residence or citizenship can sponsor family members from back home for long-term visas in our adopted countries.

In closing, I want to remind you of something: unless you are an American Indian or a descendant of slaves, at some point your ancestors chose to leave their homeland in search of a better life. They weren’t traitors and they weren’t bad people, they just wanted a better life for themselves and their families. Isn’t it time that you continue their journey?

club orlov

22 Comments on "America—the Grim Truth"

  1. Davy on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 7:29 am 

    re-posted from previous article that posted in err. the dogs are going to sleep like the old indian says or Shut the Frig up Davi.

    The Russian dog speaks. What’s new with the propagandist ideologue who has gone paranoid schizo. The expat dog will love this article. I skimmed it and will wait for him to digest it. Folks I am not saying allot of what he says is not true or relevant it is the delivery system that is not true. Propaganda and ideology are not a part of the scientific process. P&I do not lend to cooperative efforts at management and mitigation of problems nor acceptance of predicaments. P&I are unbalanced and divisive. I guess to be fair to Orrrlov the DC/Wall street mafia is a tough sucker to compete with so you have to throw Orrrlov cocktails to make your point. Orrrlov is a smart guy and funny but he has turned paranoid and mean. I guess that is what happens to collapsniks in their older age. The despair affects the mind in dangerous ways. I am a doomer but on the lite side. I am not making my name like Orrrlov. As our maturation towards instability increases people on the front line like Orrrlov demonstrate unconsciously the fate of our global system by their behaviors. Maybe psychological analysis of Orrlov shows the end is near. Like reading tea leaves. How’s that catastrophic word salad, M.

  2. paulo1 on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 8:07 am 

    Go back to Russia and shut up. Why is this shite posted here?

    I repeat, if the US is so shitty, why do so many millions want to move there and give it a go?

    Oh yeah, where they live is worse.

    The countries Orlov mentions are fortunate in their position. I know, I live in Canada. However, US still offers opportunities and hope to millions. Maybe those opportunities are not in the accepted system, but they are there if one wants to work and make a few sacricies to get ahead.

    The American people have much going for them when push comes to shove.

    Anyway…piss off Dimitri.


  3. eugene on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 8:20 am 

    Unfortunately, much of what Dimitri states is true. I think it’s great that a Canadian, who knows little of America as he doesn’t live here, thinks so highly of us. I’ve spent a some time in Canada and have yet to meet his attitude. As a Canadian said to me, once he found out I am not an American fanatic, “Americans always act so damned superior”. My only reply could be “yep”.

    The vast majority of Americans have a love it or leave it attitude. In other words, hyper sensitive to the slightest criticism. Hence they find it impossible to critically examine their country or their belief system. Lack of self examination only leads to arrogance.

  4. Davy on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 9:31 am 

    Eugen, Americans are getting hyper-sensetive because the world’s favorite past time is US bashing. IMA Paulo has a better understanding then many Americans do regarding the deeper aspects of our culture. I echo his message.

  5. noobtube on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 9:50 am 

    Americans, by their nature, are extremists.

    They are binary thinkers. Me Good, You Bad (see Sarah Palin, Ray Hagee, Mitt Romney, Pat Buchanan, and American exceptionalism).

    You are either for us or against us.
    This is the land of FREEDOM, DEMOCRACY, and LIBERTY.
    The United States is 1st world, and civilized, and rich, and powerful, and developed.
    Immigrants come to the United States only because everywhere else is worse.
    They hate us for our freedoms.
    The American way of life is non-negotiable.
    Deficits don’t matter.
    We can’t let the terrorists win.

    It’s as if Americans think they are on another planet. So, they act like total degenerates on Earth because it somehow won’t affect them, back on planet AmeriKKKuh.

  6. JuanP on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 9:54 am 

    This article was not written by Dmitri Orlov. It is an old article, a guest post by Anonymous as explained above the article at Club Orlov:
    This is the most popular post in Orlov’s blog history, and it is not his, somewhat ironic.
    I remember reading this a long time ago, years I think.

  7. Dave Thompson on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 10:19 am 

    Interesting and provocative on the idea of someone outside looking in.

  8. Makati1 on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 10:20 am 

    JuanP, it sure brought out the venom in the other debaters though. Eugene and noob are correct, but you don’t want to consider the fact that they are, because it shatters your dreams of the future. I had the same dreams until I got my eyes opens by living outside the Charmin curtain in the real world. The USSA is only a few steps away from the collapse that will take them into the 3rd world. When the government can no longer pay out 40% of the US GDP to it’s citizens, the game will be over.

    I’ll take my chances here in the 3rd world where most of the population is NOT on painkillers, tranquilizers, or illegal drugs and are NOT armed to the teeth as are those in the USSA. As I stated before with this quote:

    “I would rather live surrounded by the exciting chaos of birth that is Asia, than the struggling chaos of death that is the West”

  9. action on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 10:41 am 

    Europe is like a claustrophobic disney land. Costa Rica is chill as long as you have a girl to live with. Some place down there just went full legal with weed, forgot which but that might be cool if you have cash. Canada sounds very nice except for the cold, im a soutbern born and like warmth and water. The Bahamas I love but would again need cash saved up. Language barriers prevent moving to many other places and its not good to stand out in many of them. Guess im going down with the ship. US still has some of the best music.

  10. JuanP on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 10:53 am 

    Action, It was my country, Uruguay, that legalized weed. It is not a bad place to live if you are poor with the government providing universal health care and free college education for all. Lots of doctors, lawyers, and economists driving taxis down there.
    It is a great place to live if you are rich and own a nice farm. There are many retired Germans, Brits, Americans, and other nationalities. We even have a South Korean retirement community there. People go there from all over the world to enjoy their retirement. It’s a great place if you don’t need to get a job to get by.

  11. J-Gav on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 11:00 am 

    JuanP – Correct. The article was written 4 years ago by an anonymous author calling himself Lance Freeman (no doubt a permutation of ‘freelance man’).

    As for its content, there is a fair amount of truth in it but I would make two comments:

    1 – The tone gives you the impression there’s some Schadenfreude going on here (deriving pleasure from other people’s pain or discomfort) – even though he claims to be “your friend.”

    2 – There are a number of exaggerations and factual inaccuracies. A couple of examples: “Your chicken is contaminated with salmonella.” Really? I spent many years eating chicken regularly and never got a whiff of salmonella poisoning; ” … surrounded by crowds of happy Germans, French, Italians, etc …” I’ve lived in Germany and France and have travelled extensively in Italy. Though all are certainly capable of having a good time, it’s not like we’re always singing and dancing in the streets here …

    Checked out the situation in Italy lately? The recession marches on and its hardly the only such country in Europe. Believe me, my Italian friends are not ‘happy’ about it. I understand the guy is just trying to make a point but, if there’s a “Paradise” somewhere in Europe, I’ve yet to find it.

    Disclosure: This is from an ex-pat living in France.

  12. penury on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 11:02 am 

    I suppose that a lot of this article is true. Living in countries other than the U.S. exposes a person to different attitudes,actions,beliefs, and can open the mind to the fact that your freedoms in the U.S. are not as real as you think. I much prefer the lifestyles in other countries and yes I will admit that there are problems around the world but all people should consider where the source of the problem is. If you have never lived as a part of the local economy in a foreign land all you have is a tourists view of the country. Most U.S. citizens that I have met or talked with have a very limited knowledge or interest in what is actually happening in the world as their world ends at the city or town limits.

  13. Northwest Resident on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 11:07 am 

    I found much if not most of this article to be absolutely true. But another article could be written that focuses ONLY on the positive aspects of living in America, and it would be equally true. America is truly the land of opportunity — opportunity to really screw up your life and opportunity to create a good life for yourself. Life (in America) is what you make it!

  14. Perk Earl on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 11:21 am 

    I remember going to Scotland to work on the offshore rigs in 1979 and after what seemed only a few weeks they said I needed to take a week off. I asked what I had done wrong and they said, no it’s the law and you’ll get paid. I could hardly believe it.

    I recently had to have a hernia operation and for the life of me I could not find out how much it would cost out of pocket for all the different players, i.e. until I actually got the bills. Fortunately we had gotten covered California just recently so it ended up being quite low. Then out of no where the hospital sent a bill 2 months later for $16,291 for what they claimed were assessments to the original bill of 71,654 (which was chewed down to 5689 by the ins. company of which I only had to pay 1275). I referred to my original bill (which I’m glad I kept and I suggest other people make sure to do the same) and they said they would check into it. I did not hear from them again, but it was obviously an attempt to get more.

    The 71,654 was just for the hospital – there was the surgeon and anastesiologist bill, and an extra bill for comforting me after the operation. But the insurance actually chewed the whole thing down to only about 4k I had to pay. I really got lucky, but I still didn’t know until I got the bills how much it would cost and that was scary.

    My opinion of America having lived in the UK, is make sure you find a way to rise above the basic employed. Start a business, make up a business, run a business but don’t work for others. Of course there are exceptions like Rockman, making bank working for someone else. But generally the tax code favors business owners because of all the tax breaks. The other thing is find a way to buy a house so you have the mortgage deduction. Makes a big difference on taxes and make sure you have health insurance or they will bankrupt you.

    The US political system is pro corporations/businesses of any kind first and The People/labor last. If you haven’t lived in another developed country you may not realize that. The diatribe above may seem like a lot of propaganda, but many of the stats are accurate.

  15. J-Gav on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 3:07 pm 

    Addenda – In fact, I’ve traveled in over a dozen European countries and have seen quite a bit. One thing I really like about it here is that you can change scenery, cultures and languages in one day – without taking an airplane!

    That doesn’t change the fact that, economically (and perhaps also politically) speaking, the EU is currently balanced on a knife-edge, at least partially due to its slavishly following the U.S./U.K. lead into austerity, aka ‘feed Wall Street, not Main Street.’

    Here, (semi-successful) retirees and even entrepreneurs head off to buy larger, cheaper houses in Morocco, Thailand etc (the small island of Koh-Samui already has two French schools), rather than Costa Rica and Panama as in the States.

    As elsewhere, many young people don’t know what the hell to do … start a religion or a revolution? Recent college grads are the hardest hit by un- and underemployment.

    The days when a PhD was a passport to a high-ish paying job are gone. Drive a taxi? Flip burgers?

    We’ll get a clearer picture of the drift over the next few years but things ain’t lookin’ good. Extreme right parties on the rise; manipulation and propaganda are the rule, not the exception as the impoverished, vulnerable, ignorant and pissed-off ‘Unter’classes (NOT the exclusive reserve of the USA, as some would have you believe) are poised to let off some steam. And TPTB control-freaks prepare to take them on through fear-mongering, increasing surveillance, economic pressure and media subservience. Interesting times eh?

  16. Perk Earl on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 4:06 pm 

    True enough J-Gav, the EU is having it’s problems. I think when shtf everybody is going to be in a world of hurt.

  17. Plantagenet on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 7:28 pm 

    I’ve been to over 80 countries in North America, Central and South America, Africa, Asia, the Pacific including Australia and New Zealand and, of course, Europe.

    These days I mainly travel in Europe. I was just in Ireland and will visit Spain, Gibralter, and North Africa over the xmas holidays.

    Every place has advantages and disadvantages—I generally find things I like everywhere I travel. I certainly love Europe and respect the EU and their single payer healthcare and other social welfare programs, but the concomitant high youth unemployment and weak economies are a high price to pay. If I could pick one thing from the EU to bring to the US it would be a decent high speed passenger rail system, but we haven’t seen a single mile of high speed rail build under Obama, so we’ll have to wait for the next president to get that job done in the US.

  18. Hugh Culliton on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 8:33 pm 

    Right on, Plant. North American passenger rail sucks mud. Ironic since the vast territory makes it an incredibly efficient form of transport. To the other commentators: America is in a world of hurt and getting all defensive and angry at someone who points that fact out, doesn’t do any good. Several comments from usually very logical Peak Oilers I’ve read here seem to be the equivalent of “I know you are, but what am I?” This article has enough valid points to make it worth thinking about. You can’t wish away the US’s problems – loose the emotion and cast a critical eye on what’s happening in America today: it’s an echo of late Imperial Rome, early 20th C Britain, Weimar Germany and several other societies on the cusp of their collapse. Reality doesn’t care if you believe in it or not, it’ll kick your arse just the same.

  19. Makati1 on Tue, 23rd Sep 2014 8:39 pm 

    Plant, I don’t think High speed rail will ever come to the Us in any usable mileage. California talks about it but they are bankrupt. The Feds want bombs and war, not a working infrastructure.

    The highway system, electrical grid, water lines, etc are all collapsing and nothing is being done about it except patches to keep it running, kinda. The US is bankrupt also and printing dollars is all it can do to try to keep the game going.

  20. Stercus Feri on Wed, 24th Sep 2014 7:20 am 

    USA is a shit hole.

    Plant hasn’t seen any high speed rail built by Bush either but as usual its Obamas fault lol.

    Your next president won’t build any high speed rail either.

    I’ve traveled extensively and while I find many ‘merikans somewhat likeable I must say they are some of the stupidest people I’ve ever met.

  21. Davy on Wed, 24th Sep 2014 7:51 am 

    Fairy, you show your stupidity and pompousness. Where does your sorry ass come from so I can puk on your dumb ass country? Obviously you are one of those uptight asses that walk around like your shit don’t stink. If you had any brains which I am not sure you do, you would know that high speed rail is a lost cause and any built will be a shut in investment when complexity descent occurs. The potential for complexity descent is obvious. It will be far better to have slow speed, low tech, and simple rail transport in the future. This will build out much easier and continue in an environment of scarcity. You high speed rail advocates are in the fairy world of fusion and mars outpost.

  22. Fulton J. Waterloo on Wed, 24th Sep 2014 10:41 am 

    NOOBTUBE: do not lump Pat Buchanan in with the other neo-con types. You are only revealing your ignorance…

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