[bshirt]

Take away all that and guess what, Texas would have to come up with some kind of social safety net.

There's a lot of folks who seem to think a social safety net is some kind of Librul scheme to take money from the hard-working guys and give it to the deadbeats. So I'm not convinced they would want any kind of social safety net. I can imagine an ideal "free Texas" in which disadvantaged people are just allowed to die. Their own fault for being poor, old, very young, sick, disabled, etc. Dumbfukistan is for the strong, pioneer-spirit kind of guys, not a bunch of weak freeloaders!

How sad that traditional American values like working, saving and not demanding endless free handouts results in being classified as being a member of "Dumbfukistan".

Otoh, it's appropriate considering how the parasitic mindset has been applauded and maintained for some time now. But for a host of reasons their delightful days of slobbering at the public trough might well be ending soon.

[bshirt]

I'll take my chances without the Federal govt and the Federal Reserve. I think the Midwest/South can and will adapt to the loss of the welfare state relatively quite easily. We'll see my compadre'....

So, do you really think a new Lone Star Republic wouldn't have a central bank? You hate the federal reserve, but every nation on earth has a central bank. And you say a new Confederacy wouldn't have a welfare state. Well, let's face it, a lot of minorities use those services. So would you deny blacks the right to vote? And if too many poor white voters wanted some food stamps, would you reinstate the property owning requirement for voting?

Those are very big changes there, so expect major rioting. To handle the major civil unrest, not to mention keeping Hugo Chavez from invading, you'd have to fund a robust military.

Oh sure, it's likely they would have a central bank. But why not one that has it's currency backed by something real like gold instead of nothing? Would they really want or need a fiat currency?

And mob rule Democracy almost certainly wouldn't prevail. The days of voting for stealing someone else's sweat off their back could very well be over. If that's unacceptable, why not vote with your feet and relocate to somewhere where it is?

Actually, despite the howling of screaming liberals that certainly will go nuclear for reading this "yes" I think voting requiring property is a fine idea. I think minorities can and will prosper. One could argue that the Welfare state hasn't done minorities any favors in the long run, wouldn't you agree?

I'm really not sure how much a "robust military" would be required. There's really not a bunch of Detroit's in these regions. But it's a good question.

[Ludi]

How sad that traditional American values like working, saving and not demanding endless free handouts results in being classified as being a member of "Dumbfukistan".

You have no sense of humor.

<<<< Proud and happy Dumbfukistanian

[bshirt]

How sad that traditional American values like working, saving and not demanding endless free handouts results in being classified as being a member of "Dumbfukistan".

You have no sense of humor.

<<<< Proud and happy Dumbfukistanian

My apologies, my kind lady. However, I'm working on it.

[bshirt]

I think voting requiring property is a fine idea.

Does an Iphone count as property?

Or does one need to an entire multinational corporation in one's portfolio?

I think just owning any small house on property would suffice. In South Dakota you can easily buy a small house with property for under 10 grand. Almost as cheap as a Iphone.

Lastly, multinational corporations are almost non existent around here with the exception of farming. That's an exception that will have to change. Land reform anyone?

[gollum]

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0412/oklaho ... l-militia/




Like it or not, anyone who doesen't see the writing on the wall must be blind. The state of Oklahoma is now considering a militia.

[Ludi]

Like it or not, anyone who doesen't see the writing on the wall must be blind. The state of Oklahoma is now considering a militia.

Well good for them! They're supposed to have one as part of the provisions of the Second Amendment.


"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

[pablonite]

I think just owning any small house on property would suffice. In South Dakota you can easily buy a small house with property for under 10 grand. Almost as cheap as a Iphone.

Lastly, multinational corporations are almost non existent around here with the exception of farming. That's an exception that will have to change. Land reform anyone?

I thought this was an interesting comment because I was recently reading up on North Dakota and Fargo in particular. The city would be halved if the big multinationals relocated. Micro$oft is one of them. When your on the gravy train it's hard to see out the windows with all the hot air and steam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Dakota

The service industry is the largest economic contributor in South Dakota. This sector includes the retail, finance, and health care industries. Citibank, which was the largest bank holding company in the United States at one time, established national banking operations in South Dakota in 1981 to take advantage of favorable banking regulations.[66]

South Dakota was ground zero for international credit card fraud. That is, hiking interest rates way beyond any definition of usury. It's an interesting story but I wouldn't trust information from wiki regarding this, you'll need to look elsewhere.

I agree though, looks like a nice place to relocate if your a rancher.

[Ludi]

I thought this was an interesting comment because I was recently reading up on North Dakota and Fargo in particular. The city would be halved if the big multinationals relocated. Micro$oft is one of them. When your on the gravy train it's hard to see out the windows with all the hot air and steam.

Texas has the highest number of Fortune 500 companies of any state, and many billionaires. Would they want to stay if Texas secedes? Would Texas kick them out for being elitist?

Texas used to be a good place to be a rancher until ranching ruined the land.

[Ludi]

Won't this create a permanent underclass?

That's the current trend. Wealth is concentrating at the top, along with power, of course.

Wealth distribution in the US: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woIkIph5xcU

But that's how some folks want it, especially those who are against taxing the rich. Their argument is that the rich provide us with all good things so we must protect them. So NO SOCIALISM! Paddle your own canoe, unless you're rich, in which case you can make the rest of us paddle it for you.

Welcome to Dumbfukistan.