Leanan wrote:I would imagine that a 1984-style tyranny would entirely eliminate the possibility of a secessionist movement altogether, frankly.
Or make it inevitable. Such a society would require a lot of energy to control the population. Eventually, they would not be able to continue.
But when I say I expect the U.S. to dissolve, I don't necessarily mean a secessionist movement, like the Civil War.
Instead, it may simply reach the point where there's no benefit to maintaining the country as it is. Nobody formally signing articles of secession, nobody sending armies to stop it. Just a lot of people who are more concerned with local events than national or global.Does anyone see this trend in evidence? Really? Tell the truth, folks... aren't you vastly more aware of the presence of the federal government in your lives than you were ten, twenty years ago?
Can't say I've noticed much difference either way. Then again, I wasn't very interested in politics 20 years ago.
In any case, current trends are not necessarily an indication of the future. Peak oil is a game changer. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't bother hanging out here.
(FWIW, the Kunstler novel has a nuclear attack on DC, which is why no one is sure what happened to the federal government.)
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN HIDING. Nothing interesting enough for you in the last 20 years. What crap! PO will create stronger government, and while we will lose freedom, the bureaucrats will keep it all together. Its what they do. Nation that have a good bureaucracy have the means to endure.
20 years of not paying attention while the world goes to shit and we are suppose to listen NOW. Where were you when we really needed you. pfff..........