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Deep State black ops?

Unread postby onlooker » Tue 28 Mar 2017, 12:31:03

Deep State black ops is it conspiracy theory or not?
$10 Trillion Missing From Pentagon And No One — Not Even The DoD — Knows Where It Is
Over a mere two decades, the Pentagon lost track of a mind-numbing $10 trillion — that’s trillion, with a fat, taxpayer-funded “T” — and no one, not even the Department of Defense, knows where it went or on what it was spent.
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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Tue 28 Mar 2017, 13:44:33

onlooker wrote:Deep State black ops is it conspiracy theory or not?
$10 Trillion Missing From Pentagon And No One — Not Even The DoD — Knows Where It Is
Over a mere two decades, the Pentagon lost track of a mind-numbing $10 trillion — that’s trillion, with a fat, taxpayer-funded “T” — and no one, not even the Department of Defense, knows where it went or on what it was spent.

What is your source for this?
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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby onlooker » Tue 28 Mar 2017, 13:54:53

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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Tue 28 Mar 2017, 14:03:13

It is absurd on the face of it.
Ten trillion over twenty years is five hundred billion a year which in some of the years in question was the entire defense budget which has fluctuated between about five hundred billion and seven hundred billion over that time frame.
Granted there is a lot of waste in the defense budget but it is not five hundred billion out of seven hundred billion in a year and certainly not five hundred out of five hundred. :razz:
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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby onlooker » Tue 28 Mar 2017, 14:24:19

vtsnowedin wrote:It is absurd on the face of it.
Ten trillion over twenty years is five hundred billion a year which in some of the years in question was the entire defense budget which has fluctuated between about five hundred billion and seven hundred billion over that time frame.
Granted there is a lot of waste in the defense budget but it is not five hundred billion out of seven hundred billion in a year and certainly not five hundred out of five hundred. :razz:

That is the official figure, we don't know that they are really accurate. The point is the Military is such a potent and large part of Govt. Again, no allowance for corruption and Govt. cover up from some on this site. Oh a universally accepted fact is that the US spends more on military than anyone else. In fact, from a nice official conservative source "The US spends more on its military than the next 8 countries combined" http://www.businessinsider.com/us-milit ... ing-2017-3
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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby Cog » Tue 28 Mar 2017, 15:04:17

There are black projects the military works on out in Nevada that costs several billion a year. There are also some things the NRO does with those fancy satellites they launch. But its no where near 500 billion.

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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Tue 28 Mar 2017, 18:17:44

onlooker wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:It is absurd on the face of it.
Ten trillion over twenty years is five hundred billion a year which in some of the years in question was the entire defense budget which has fluctuated between about five hundred billion and seven hundred billion over that time frame.
Granted there is a lot of waste in the defense budget but it is not five hundred billion out of seven hundred billion in a year and certainly not five hundred out of five hundred. :razz:

That is the official figure, we don't know that they are really accurate. The point is the Military is such a potent and large part of Govt. Again, no allowance for corruption and Govt. cover up from some on this site. Oh a universally accepted fact is that the US spends more on military than anyone else. In fact, from a nice official conservative source "The US spends more on its military than the next 8 countries combined" http://www.businessinsider.com/us-milit ... ing-2017-3

I've read elsewhere that the actual figure is more then the next thirteen countries combined but let's not quibble. The largest chunks of the military budget are well known. One and a half million personnel at an average paycheck per soldier comes up to a pretty solid figure. Also the planes and ships all have a budget that is pretty well known along with all the fuel , supplies and ammunition and food etc.
Of course the Defense department is not going to submit to a public audit as the information contained in it would be of use to our enemies.
And of course there are secret programs that have their budgets buried inside other line items as that is necessary to keep them secret.
For a bit more insight to what has really been spent you could start here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... eddbc21ac9
The W.Post is not exactly Defense friendly so if they say it was spent it probably was.
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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Tue 28 Mar 2017, 21:59:28

Surely they have their own printing press and its way more
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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Tue 28 Mar 2017, 22:04:22

Shaved Monkey wrote:Surely they have their own printing press and its way more

That is not plausible. A half trillion a year would show up in bank balances or in spending and it would soon be apparent where it came from.
Such shenanigans were tried during the USA civil war and almost brought the Union down off the battle field.
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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Wed 29 Mar 2017, 00:29:43

Not if it's flown in cash to the third world.
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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Wed 29 Mar 2017, 03:21:09

Im sure all the Toyota RVs were bought with cash
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The Deep State’s Plan ‘C’ – Murder Donald Trump?

Unread postby AdamB » Thu 04 Jan 2018, 18:18:22


Longtime Donald Trump advisor and confidante Roger Stone is warning once again about the deep state. This time, he said that the deep state’s “plan C” is to simply murder the president, since plans A and B won’t work out. With trust in the mainstream media at an all-time low, the global elitists are on the verge of losing their grip on humanity’s throat. And Roger Stone says emphatically that they plan to go down swinging. According to New American, the Deep State’s “Plan A,” is the imploding “investigation” into alleged “Russian collusion” by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, said Stone. If and when that fails, which Stone suggested was likely and soon, the establishment would move to “Plan B.” In essence, Plan B would involve trying to get a majority of Trump’s cabinet to declare him unfit for office. This would allow Trump to be removed


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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby Cog » Thu 04 Jan 2018, 19:29:02

Although the deep state is very corrupt, I do not see them authorizing an presidential assassination. But here is the deal. With the Media, the Democrat party, and yes even some members here comparing Trump to Hitler, its only a matter of time until some left wing loony takes a crack at it. We've already had something like this happen at the ball field in Alexandria, where the shooter targeted Republican Congressmen.
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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Fri 05 Jan 2018, 00:10:04

Cog wrote:Although the deep state is very corrupt, I do not see them authorizing an presidential assassination. But here is the deal. With the Media, the Democrat party, and yes even some members here comparing Trump to Hitler, its only a matter of time until some left wing loony takes a crack at it. We've already had something like this happen at the ball field in Alexandria, where the shooter targeted Republican Congressmen.

Tell it to Vince Foster!
I do think they will exhaust all other possibilities first with the Muller probe still looking good in their eyes and today they are pounding on his mental stability and grip on reality.
But these are desperate people and nothing should be assumed to be beyond them. Of course they think that all they are doing is for the good of the country.
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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Tue 09 Jan 2018, 17:25:17

This is on Drudge today. I have downloaded it but haven't had the time to read it all. I'm sure somebody will point out highlights before I get it all digested. If he could stop saying "you know" it would be a much better read.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/09/sen-dia ... imony.html
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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby Cog » Tue 09 Jan 2018, 21:34:12

Direct link to the testimony. A pdf.

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public ... dacted.pdf
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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby Cog » Tue 09 Jan 2018, 22:59:28

Took a speed read skim of it. Fusion GPS will not discuss who their actual client was and what information was shared with them or what their client did with the information . From looking at what Fusion GPS actually came up with, it sounds like they determined that Trump is probably not worth what he claims he is worth and he has had business dealings domestically with rich Russians who do have crime connections.

The Fusion GPS people were not able to find a direct connection between Trump and anyone in the Russian government. If you are a rich Russian businessman, you are most likely shady since Russia is run a bit like the Mafia. Trump may have dealt with them but again, whether he knew about their criminal behavior back in Russia is an unknown.

Fusion GPS did admit they set up the meetings with the press to detail the Chris Steele investigation memos but they won't say whether their client knew about it or told them to leak it. Anything involving their client or what that client told Fusion GPS to do was not answered due to client privilege.
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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 10 Jan 2018, 02:25:15

Trumps layer just filed a lawsuit against Buzzfeed for publishing the Fusion GPS
Pissgate dossier.

The dossier claims the lawyer went to Europe and met with a Russian government agent to set up collusion between Trump and the Russians, but the lawyer has never been to the country the dossier claims he was in.

The dossier is riddled with similar lies and falsehoods, and yet the FBI used it to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign—-all based on lies in a document the DNC and Hilarys layers funded. Then the Obama administration
“Unmasked” everyone caught up in the wiretap, allowing them to effectively bug Trump Tower.

This is like Watergate, only the Obama administration subverted the FBI and and actually succeeded into getting them to bug the Rs for them.

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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Wed 10 Jan 2018, 06:32:28

CNN and MSNBC are Russian agents striving to overthrow the American Democracy at the direction of Vladimir Putin. :twisted:
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Re: Deep State black ops?

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 10 Jan 2018, 10:52:43

vtsnowedin wrote:CNN and MSNBC are Russian agents striving to overthrow the American Democracy at the direction of Vladimir Putin. :twisted:


Why not? It makes as much sense as the theory of Putin collusion with Trump ROFLMAO!
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