Turkish FM calls Russia’s Lavrov 'to express sorrow'
Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu called his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov on Nov. 25 'to express his sorrow' over the downing of a Russian jet by Turkey near the Syrian border.
Turkish foreign minister expressed “his sincere condolences,” Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov told reporters at a press conference in Moscow. “But the Turkish minister tried to excuse the incident,” Lavrov added.
He also said Russia “is not going to wage a war against Turkey,” and that Russia’s attitude toward Turkish people remains unchanged.
“But we will seriously reassess all bilateral agreements,” he added. “As for specific measures, we’ve recommended our citizens not to travel to Turkey.”
Lavrov also argued the downing of the SU-24 fighter jet by Turkey appeared to be a “planned provocation” as the incident heightened tensions between Moscow and Ankara.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/Default.aspx?PageID=238&NID=91654
The rescue operation of Russia's Su-24 navigator has been successefully completed with the pilot back at the Hmeymim airbase safe and sound, Russian Defense Ministry Gen. Sergei Shoigu said Thursday.
"The rescue operation was completed successfully. The navigator is back at our airbase. [He is] safe and sound," the minister said at the Ministry of Defense board meeting.
Shoigu noted that the operation lasted 12 hours and thanked "all our men, who risked [their lives] working through the night."
Lavrov spoke to his Turkish counterpart in a phone conversation.
"Moscow is not avoiding contacts with Ankara — my phone conversation with the Turkish FM is proof," Lavrov said.
Turkey's foreign minister expressed his sincere condolences to Sergei Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Minister said. But the Turkish minister tried to excuse the incident, Lavrov added.
The Turkish minister said that Turkey did not know it was a Russian jet.
"We have serious doubts it was an accident and prepared footage of the jet downing suggests it wasn't," Sergei Lavrov said. "It all looks like a planned provocation".
US President Barack Obama and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan have agreed on the importance of preventing incidents like Tuesday’s downing of a Russian bomber jet over Syria by a Turkish plane, from happening again.
ANKARA (Sputnik) — According to Turkey’s national Anadolu news agency, the leaders said in a phone conversation late Tuesday it was necessary to make arrangements that would ensure that similar incidents did not occur again.
Ibon wrote:I am noticing more and more in these conflicts everyone is calling each other terrorists. Culpability is not simple black and white as there are so many shades of gray that one feels like they are in a Beijing smog. And this current conflict is happening right now eclipsing the climate change conference in Paris. Probably undermining it. A conference dedicated toward trying to mitigate what? Our species actions that in the POV of the flora and fauna, our brethren on the planet we are? Terrorists.
SeaGypsy wrote:Or from another POV we are the necessary evil required to prevent carbon death, a purpose we appear to be designed for & a job just about done for a few billion years.
Sixstrings wrote:AgentR11 wrote:I don't think Syria is worth ANY of these risks or costs.
Someone should tell Mr. Putin that. Lavrov has already told Kerry that Russia isn't really tied to Assad. So Putin should stop gaming out for max advantage and cut a deal with the coalition and cooperate with / join the existing international coalition.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
AgentR11 wrote:And yet, its a NATO country that makes the first kill.
AgentR11 wrote:We should be honest. We, NATO, exist to destroy Russia. That is its purpose. As long as some Europeans survive to loot it afterwards, we call it victory.
And we're now in it.
ennui2 wrote:
And what about the downed airliner in Ukraine?
ennui2 wrote:]
Nobody wants this to balloon out into a war.
But he said he would order Russia's military to intensify cooperation with the French armed forces - including exchanges of information about targets - and viewed that as part of creating a broader international coalition bringing together Russia and Western states.
"We are ready to cooperate with the coalition which is led by the United States. But of course incidents like the destruction of our aircraft and the deaths of our servicemen... are absolutely unacceptable," Putin said at a news conference, standing alongside Hollande.
"And we proceed from the position that there will be no repeat of this, otherwise we'll have no need of cooperation with anybody, any coalition, any country."
He said he and the French leader had "agreed how we will cooperate in the near future, on a bilateral basis and with, as a whole, the coalition led by the United States.
"We are talking about a designation of the territories against which we can conduct strikes, and where it is better to refrain from strikes, about the exchange of information on various issues, and the coordination of our actions on, so to speak, the battlefield," Putin said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/26/us-mideast-crisis-france-russia-putin-idUSKBN0TF2D320151126#QsWGBWf9DMdc6J2J.97
"Why did we pass this information to the Americans? Either they were not controlling what their allies were doing, or they are leaking this information all over the place," Putin said.
Hannity Blames Obama For Turkey Shooting Down Russian Warplane
Sean Hannity: Because Of Obama "You Have ... More Players Fighting For The Power That America Should Be Leading In"
Mistake number one is the president pulled out of Iraq too early ... You add to that the red line issue when he draws a red line, if Assad uses chemical weapons, that there's going to be severe consequences, blah, blah, blah. America's absence in the region has now created a void, and as a result of that void, you have more chaos and more players fighting for the power that America should be leading in.
http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/11/24/hannity-defends-putin-blames-obama-for-turkey-s/207080
Think of people like Sixstrings in charge and making the decisions.
Russia destroys Turkish truck convoy headed for Syrian militants -- Erdogan silent
Plantagenet wrote:
Russia destroys Turkish truck convoy headed for Syrian militants -- Erdogan silent
AND what was in the truck convoy that the Russians destroyed? Chances are the trucks were loaded with US weapons and ammunition bound for the Syrian rebels.
The photos the rebels released after they shot down the Russian helicopter trying to rescue the pilots showed they were armed with US TOW missiles and other US equipment.
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