[Mesuge]

If anyone wondered about the true nature of President Chavez and his policies you better get to see this award winning documentary "The revolution will not be televised" it's available as torrent on the net as well: http://www.chavezthefilm.com/index_ex.htm

He is simplistic, old school socialist (although playing with the idea of microloans for the small business). Also a bit demagougish, but certainly not a bloody mass murderer as those guys sitting in the Washington DC these days..

This is quite unique documentary because the foreign film crew was there exactly during the Bushite sponsored coup to kick him out so you can watch it almost live unfolding..

What's most interesting, you can notice his aide with small suitcase rushing everywhere behind him - it very much resembled the docus about Russian and other leaders.. Since it's pretty unrealistic to expect Venezuela army/navy having some advanced ballistic missiles or subs with some long range stuff or whatever, my conclusion therefore is that they might have doomsday device planted in some crucial oil industry facilities..

That would also help explain the failed coup.. If the Chavez boys had
the suitcase the contras where marginalized and the President guys
bought enough time to get their house in order in the meantime and win..

List of doomsday device equiped oil producing countries>>

- Saudi Arabia rumored to have these in place
- Venezuela speculation
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[lutherquick]

yup, America is in a pickle...

we pushed democracy and all over the place, and guess what?
we got it... but, Oooppss... it's not pro American democracy...

Now America is on the run, trying so hard to clear away all these delocracies that tell Bush and America to fvck off...

tisk, tisk...

True, real democracy will win, not America.
US hegemony that is cloaked and hiding behind the skirts of children and weman, these are dieing...

We can have 10 votes in Belarus, back to back, have recall votes, and finance a coup, but the majority of the population will vote for an leader that does what they want...

People in Venezuela and Belarus are forgeting about America and dollar hegemony, nobody wants it...

Bush need to look at his failing nation, suporting dictators and killing real democracies ain't going to save america...

RIP America

[Mesuge]

You are right, uh, but I'd would make a BIG disctinction here between Lukashenko and Chavez!

Chavez did not close down or manipulate the media hard before the coup or after the coup, even didn't put those contra bastards behind the bars although he could have done it. They just left to Miami like rats on their own..

Chavez with all his populistic shortcommings is a genuine democratic leader at least meassured by the standards of the Latin America..

Lukashenko somewhat delivered the minimum economic standard but only thanks to Russia. Otherwise the media are opressed hard as well as the opposition.. No doubt that CIA/NATO based 'democratic NGOs' are pushing there also their agenda but the comparison is not very accurate..

Btw. get that Irish Chavez flic it's the ultime action/political thriller/documentary movie (try torrents at pir@te bay)!

The best punch is delivered in the end by perplexed Ari Fleischer and Powell when they realised the coup is over and Chavez is back - the humiliation in their cretin faces and realization they are going to deal with him from now on made my day and it's worth million bucks !@!

[Russian_Cowboy]

You are right, uh, but I'd would make a BIG disctinction here between Lukashenko and Chavez!

Chavez did not close down or manipulate the media hard before the coup or after the coup, even didn't put those contra bastards behind the bars although he could have done it. They just left to Miami like rats on their own..

Chavez with all his populistic shortcommings is a genuine democratic leader at least meassured by the standards of the Latin America..

Lukashenko somewhat delivered the minimum economic standard but only thanks to Russia. Otherwise the media are opressed hard as well as the opposition.. No doubt that CIA/NATO based 'democratic NGOs' are pushing there also their agenda but the comparison is not very accurate..

Btw. get that Irish Chavez flic it's the ultime action/political thriller/documentary movie (try torrents at pir@te bay)!

The best punch is delivered in the end by perplexed Ari Fleischer and Powell when they realised the coup is over and Chavez is back - the humiliation in their cretin faces and realization they are going to deal with him from now on made my day and it's worth million bucks !@!

Democracy is determined not by elections, oppression of the media, and political prisoners, but by the distribution of power in a country, by how much the state power is dispersed among the citizens. Just a remark.

[Keith_McClary]

yup, America is in a pickle...

we pushed democracy and all over the place, and guess what?
we got it... but, Oooppss... it's not pro American democracy...

Yeah, funny thing, it is pro-Arab, pro Islamic, pro Venezualan etc. democracy.

Could this have anything to do with decades of US anti-Arab, anti-Islamic, anti-Latino policies?