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United States of America.

Unread postby stu » Mon 22 Aug 2005, 20:59:10

How we can have a Geopolitics forum and not include a thread on the most powerful military force in the history of humanity?

U.S. Republican senator says Iraq war similar to Vietnam

Influential Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska said on Sunday the longer the United States stayed bogged down in Iraq, the more it looked like another Vietnam.

"What I think the White House does not yet understand and some of my colleagues, is the dam has broken on this (Iraq) policy," said Hagel, a senior member of the Foreign Relations Committee and possible presidential candidate in 2008.


US military exit from Iraq focus of growing political battle

Senior US politicians sparred over the US military presence in Iraq as lawmakers in Baghdad struggled to meet a second deadline to craft a new constitution.

Reflecting a growing public disenchantment with the course of US President George W Bush’s Iraq policy, several American lawmakers called for Bush to enunciate an “exit strategy” from Iraq while pressing Iraqi politicians to take hold of their own fate.


Is the U.S Military Overstretched?

In his annual report to Congress last May, General Richard Myers, Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, conceded that the situations in Iraq and Afghanistan have strained the military to a point where it runs a higher risk of not being able to quickly and easily defeat potential enemies.

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Re: United States of America.

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Mon 22 Aug 2005, 21:12:24

America has its own forum now.

Well technically it's an "americas" thread, so it's not just about the USA. But that's like saying a thread about the USSR doesn't involve Russia. :roll:

So it makes sense to move some of the geopolitcal threads into those new forums. If France has a thread, move it to the Europe forum.

Or perhaps make a copy for that forum.
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Re: United States of America.

Unread postby chrispi » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 00:02:45

"When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around."--The Police
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Re: United States of America.

Unread postby stu » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 16:16:16

Briefly: U.S. moving closer to ties with Libya

The U.S. State Department has said that the United States is moving closer toward normalizing ties with Libya but that the country needs to do more to improve its human rights record and to fight terrorism.

Asked whether Libya had done enough to be taken off the U.S. list of sponsors of terrorism, the State Department spokesman, Sean McCormack, said Monday that there was more work to be done.



Bush says he has no plans to meet with anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan

President George W. Bush charged on Tuesday that anti-war protesters such as Cindy Sheehan, who want the troops brought home immediately, are “advocating a policy that would weaken the United States.”

In remarks to reporters outside an exclusive resort where he is vacationing, Bush gave no indication that he would change his mind and meet with Sheehan, who lost a son in Iraq and has emerged as a harsh critic of the war there, when he returns to his Texas ranch on Wednesday.



Bush optimistic on Iraqi constitution

President Bush said Tuesday Iraq's Sunni minority has a choice between freedom and violence.
The president, during a day at an Idaho resort, met briefly with reporters, answering questions about constitutional negotiations in Iraq and the completion of Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip.
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Re: United States of America.

Unread postby stu » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 17:46:29

New gas mileage rules aimed at light trucks

The Bush administration proposed new fuel efficiency standards for pickup trucks, minivans and some sport-utility vehicles, the first significant change in nearly three decades, federal officials said Tuesday.
Environmentalists immediately faulted the plan as creating new loopholes that would weaken automobile fuel efficiency standards while failing to reduce the nation's dependence on foreign oil.



Bush: No retreat until win in terror war

President Bush vowed Wednesday in Idaho he would not retreat from Iraq or the rest of the Middle East until U.S. troops "win the war on terror."
The president, who was speaking to a gathering of the Idaho National Guard, is on a three-day swing to try to garner support for his Iraq policy, which has been flagging in the polls.
"We will stay on the offense," Bush said to applause. "We'll complete our work in Afghanistan and Iraq.


Poll Shows Bush Approval Ratings Sink to Lowest Point in Presidency

President Bush's job approval ratings are at their lowest point of his presidency as only 40% of U.S. adults have a favorable opinion of his job performance and 58% have a negative opinion, according to a Harris Interactive poll.

This is a decline from two months ago, when the president's ratings were 45% positive and 55% negative. The war in Iraq and the economy climbed to the top of a list of issues Americans say are most important for the U.S. to address. Social Security declined sharply.
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Re: United States of America.

Unread postby stu » Thu 25 Aug 2005, 19:15:51

Bush spotlights mom of troops who backs Iraq war

US President George W. Bush on Wednesday contrasted a military mother whose five sons and husband have served in Iraq with anti-war protestors he said risked emboldening terrorists.

"There are few things in life more difficult than seeing a loved one go off to war. Here, in Idaho, a mom named Tammy Pruett ... knows that feeling six times over," the president said in a speech to citizen soldiers here.


US predicts Zarqawi Africa flight

A top US general has said al-Qaeda's leader in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, will try to relocate to the Horn of Africa if Iraq is stabilised.
Major-General Douglas Lute cited Yemen, Somalia, Sudan and Ethiopia as likely "safe havens" for jihadists.



USA Today Examines Supreme Court Nominee Roberts' Position, Court's Influence Over Abortion Restrictions

USA Today on Wednesday examined the potential influence Supreme Court nominee Judge John Roberts might have on restrictions to abortion rights if he is confirmed to the "divided" court. Following the retirement of Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, the court will have five justices who generally have supported legal abortion as defined under Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision that struck down state abortion bans.
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Re: United States of America.

Unread postby savethehumans » Thu 06 Oct 2005, 00:41:21

Hi, all!

From a review of George Clooney's new movie about Ed Murrow and Joe McCarthy, that I think resonates well today:
Knowing the outcome doesn't diminish the tension a bit, and Clooney and Grant Heslov's fine-chiseled script resonates with contemporary relevance. "We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home," Murrow said in his 1954 McCarthy broadcast. The senator used fear to undermine traditional American freedoms and equate dissent with disloyalty. Any resemblance to the current administration's exploitation of 9/11 is no accident.

Sounds like a great movie--and a great point of view!--for our times, doesn't it?
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Re: United States of America.

Unread postby savethehumans » Fri 14 Oct 2005, 04:47:03

The Nobel Committee continues to slam Bush and the USA! This time, they gave Harold Pinter the Prize for Literature. A snippet from the story tells you WHY this is so delicious:
Pinter: Silence in Plays, Rage in Politics
The Associated Press
Thursday, October 13, 2005

LONDON - Deft silences are the trademark of Harold Pinter the playwright. But thunderous, sometimes obscene, rage is his style in politics. The newest Nobel laureate in literature has fulminated against what he sees as the overweening arrogance of American power, and belittled Prime Minister Tony Blair as seeming like a "deluded idiot" in support of US President George W. Bush's war in Iraq.

He once compared his view of America with his personal nightmare of fighting cancer.

"I found that to emerge from a personal nightmare was to enter an infinitely more pervasive public nightmare - the nightmare of American hysteria, ignorance, arrogance, stupidity and belligerence; the most powerful nation the world has ever known effectively waging war against the rest of the world," Pinter said in 2002 when he accepted an honorary doctorate at Turin University in Italy.

Ahhhhh. . .like a breath of fresh air! :)
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Is the United States an Empire?

Unread postby Jellric » Thu 05 Apr 2007, 15:53:12

Does the U.S. qualify as an Empire?

I am trying to do some research on this question and am having difficulty finding a conclusive answer.

I suspect we are an Empire (at least abroad) but the precise mechanisms of control are beyond me. My gut feeling is that in order for an Empire to flourish other peoples must be impoverished but I am not certain exactly how that is accomplished.

Am I corrrect in this assumption and can someone provide some facts one way or the other or point me in the right direction?
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Re: Is the United States an Empire?

Unread postby mmasters » Thu 05 Apr 2007, 16:12:43

Jellric wrote:Does the U.S. qualify as an Empire?

I am trying to do some research on this question and am having difficulty finding a conclusive answer.

I suspect we are an Empire (at least abroad) but the precise mechanisms of control are beyond me. My gut feeling is that in order for an Empire to flourish other peoples must be impoverished but I am not certain exactly how that is accomplished.

Am I corrrect in this assumption and can someone provide some facts one way or the other or point me in the right direction?

The mechanism of control is economic through the banking system and the currency provided from it. The US dollar at this time is the dominant currency worldwide (most of the world's commodities are valued in USD providing a constant demand for USD loans). However, just because the USD is the dominant currency only makes for an illusion the US is running the show.
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Re: Is the United States an Empire?

Unread postby Petrodollar » Thu 05 Apr 2007, 16:20:47

If you have any lingering doubts as to whether the US is an empire, please read these two books by Chalmers Johnson at your local library. (You could also start with his first book, Blowback). You will immediately see that todays imperialism is not based on the number of colonists in a foreign land, but rather, the number of military bases. As Chalmer Johnson notes, no empire in history has contructed anything like our "Empire of bases."

http://www.amazon.com/Sorrows-Empire-Mi ... 961&sr=8-1

The Sorrows of Empire: Militarism, Secrecy, and the End of the Republic

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Since September 2001, the United States has "undergone a transformation from republic to empire that may well prove irreversible," writes Chalmers Johnson. Unlike past global powers, however, America has built an empire of bases rather than colonies, creating in the process a government that is obsessed with maintaining absolute military dominance over the world, Johnson claims. The Department of Defense currently lists 725 official U.S. military bases outside of the country and 969 within the 50 states (not to mention numerous secret bases). According to the author, these bases are proof that the "United States prefers to deal with other nations through the use or threat of force rather than negotiations, commerce, or cultural interaction." This rise of American militarism, along with the corresponding layers of bureaucracy and secrecy that are created to circumvent scrutiny, signals a shift in power from the populace to the Pentagon: "A revolution would be required to bring the Pentagon back under democratic control," he writes.

In Sorrows of Empire, Johnson discusses the roots of American militarism, the rise and extent of the military-industrial complex, and the close ties between arms industry executives and high-level politicians. He also looks closely at how the military has extended the boundaries of what constitutes national security in order to centralize intelligence agencies under their control and how statesmen have been replaced by career soldiers on the front lines of foreign policy--a shift that naturally increases the frequency with which we go to war.

Though his conclusions are sure to be controversial, Johnson is a skilled and experienced historian who backs up his claims with copious research and persuasive arguments. His important book adds much to a debate about the realities and direction of U.S. influence in the world. --Shawn Carkonen


...and here's his recent follow-up, the third and final trilogy:

http://www.amazon.com/Nemesis-American- ... 234&sr=8-2

Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic (American Empire Project)

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Like ancient Rome, America is saddled with an empire that is fatally undermining its republican government, argues Johnson (The Sorrows of Empire), in this bleak jeremiad. He surveys the trappings of empire: the brutal war of choice in Iraq and other foreign interventions going back decades; the militarization of space; the hundreds of overseas U.S. military bases full of "swaggering soldiers who brawl and sometimes rape." At home, the growth of an "imperial presidency," with the CIA as its "private army," has culminated in the Bush administration's resort to warrantless wiretaps, torture, a "gulag" of secret CIA prisons and an unconstitutional arrogation of "dictatorial" powers, while a corrupt Congress bows like the Roman Senate to Caesar.

Retribution looms, the author warns, as the American economy, dependent on a bloated military-industrial complex and foreign borrowing, staggers toward bankruptcy, maybe a military coup. Johnson's is a biting, often effective indictment of some ugly and troubling features of America's foreign policy and domestic politics. But his doom-laden trope of empire ("the capacity for things to get worse is limitless.... the American republic may be coming to its end") seems overstated. With Bush a lame duck, not a Caesar, and his military adventures repudiated by the electorate, the Republic seems more robust than Johnson allows. (Feb.)


...and here's an interesting essay that succinctly discusses how this massive global military superstrucuture is funded - not by US citizens who enjoy by far the lowest taxiation level of the weathy G7 nations - but rather the exporting of inflation, an indirect form of taxiation, to the rest of the globe...

http://www.energybulletin.net/12125.html

The Proposed Iranian Oil Bourse
by Krassimir Petrov

I. Economics of Empires

A nation-state taxes its own citizens, while an empire taxes other nation-states. The history of empires, from Greek and Roman, to Ottoman and British, teaches that the economic foundation of every single empire is the taxation of other nations. The imperial ability to tax has always rested on a better and stronger economy, and as a consequence, a better and stronger military. One part of the subject taxes went to improve the living standards of the empire; the other part went to strengthen the military dominance necessary to enforce the collection of those taxes.

Historically, taxing the subject state has been in various forms—usually gold and silver, where those were considered money, but also slaves, soldiers, crops, cattle, or other agricultural and natural resources, whatever economic goods the empire demanded and the subject-state could deliver. Historically, imperial taxation has always been direct: the subject state handed over the economic goods directly to the empire.

For the first time in history, in the twentieth century, America was able to tax the world indirectly, through inflation. It did not enforce the direct payment of taxes like all of its predecessor empires did, but distributed instead its own fiat currency, the U.S. Dollar, to other nations in exchange for goods with the intended consequence of inflating and devaluing those dollars and paying back later each dollar with less economic goods—the difference capturing the U.S. imperial tax. Here is how this happened...


...I hope these 3 sources help.
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Re: Is the United States an Empire?

Unread postby Bas » Thu 05 Apr 2007, 16:21:12

There is a pretty interesting wiki article on this very question
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Re: Is the United States an Empire?

Unread postby americandream » Thu 05 Apr 2007, 16:48:54

Symbolically perhaps.

The seat of imperial power is not in the US.
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Re: Is the United States an Empire?

Unread postby scienceteacher » Thu 05 Apr 2007, 16:56:11

Jellrik - your question implies that you watch too much TV. The more you watch the less you know! Second the Chalmers recommended read and www.globalresearch.ca too. Wake up!
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Re: Is the United States an Empire?

Unread postby FoxV » Thu 05 Apr 2007, 17:14:53

don't forget to add a section about how the US extracts tribute from its territories through the use of inflation

ie: where the US exchanges goods for paper money and then degrades the value of the paper (which it is now charging a 20% duty on to import from China :lol: )
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Re: Is the United States an Empire?

Unread postby Jellric » Thu 05 Apr 2007, 17:47:46

Ok thanks, everyone. This gives me something to chew on for a while.

And teacher I am already wide awake - what little tv I do watch is the History channel and some nature programs. :P
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Re: Is the United States an Empire?

Unread postby Loki » Thu 05 Apr 2007, 17:50:40

Another perspective that's worth checking out is Niall Ferguson's work on empire. He's pro-empire and clearly believes the US is an empire, but he argues we aren't vigorous enough in our imperialism. :roll:

Colossus: The Price of America's Empire

The reality is that the United States has -- whether it admits it or not -- taken up some kind of global burden. It considers itself responsible not just for waging a war against terrorism and rogue states, but also for spreading the benefits of capitalism and democracy overseas. And just like the British empire before it, the American empire unfailingly acts in the name of liberty, even when its own self-interest is manifestly uppermost.

Yet the empire that rules the world today is both more and less than its British begetter. It has a much bigger economy, many more people, a much larger arsenal. But it is an empire that lacks the drive to export its capital, its people, and its culture to those backward regions that need them most urgently and that, if they are neglected, will breed the greatest threats to its security. It is an empire, in short, that dare not speak its name. It is an empire in denial.

America: an Empire in Denial


Americans often referred to the US as an empire in the nineteenth century, but that fell out of fashion when empire became a bad word.
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Re: Is the United States an Empire?

Unread postby Bioman » Thu 05 Apr 2007, 18:58:29

What's more, I was just reading this series of essays about America as a "revolutionary" empire - the kind the USSR would have always wanted to be (qua modus operandi, that is).

The essay is about the American neocons, many of who are former Troskyists who have preached "permanent international revolution" and "avant-gardism" before. The U.S. today applies revolutionary marxist-leninist-stalinist strategies (but then to promote ultra-capitalism) in Iraq, Afghanistan and of course at Home.

Neocons with real Trotskyist roots and credentials are: Irving Kristol, Christopher Hitchens, Willmoore Kindall and Stephen Schwartz, who all have been members of maoist, leninist, marxist, stalinist or troskyist political formations.

Some of their creeds, based on deeply marxist and leninist ideas: (1) the idea that that liberal democracy merely is an epiphenomenon of capitalism, (2) that "capitalism is Marxism with entrepreneurs substituted for proletarians as the heroic subjects of history" (3) that "the United States and similar societies are dominated by a decadent, postbourgeois 'new class'" (literal stalinist quote).

In short, yes, the US is an empire, that much is obvious, but it is also a truly revolutionary empire, in the sense of classic marxist-leninist orthodoxy.
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Re: Is the United States an Empire?

Unread postby americandream » Thu 05 Apr 2007, 21:40:15

Jellric wrote:Ok thanks, everyone. This gives me something to chew on for a while.

And teacher I am already wide awake - what little tv I do watch is the History channel and some nature programs. :P


The teacher is more astute than you realise.

The fact that you attribute economic hegemoney to an artificial construct of essentially disempowered and pavlovianised workers (non owners of capital) speaks volumes for the mountain of clear thinking you have yet to traverse
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Re: Is the United States an Empire?

Unread postby americandream » Thu 05 Apr 2007, 21:45:14

Bioman wrote:(3) that "the United States and similar societies are dominated by a decadent, postbourgeois 'new class'" (literal stalinist quote).........

In short, yes, the US is an empire, that much is obvious, but it is also a truly revolutionary empire, in the sense of classic marxist-leninist orthodoxy.


Could you elaborate on the above two points please, especially the juxtaposition of "decadent" and "revolutionary".
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