rockdoc123 wrote:You really need to understand that the US oil and gas system shutting down is not good for you as a US citizen, it is extremely bad.
rockdoc123 wrote:how about they had no oil and gas? How about they had to somehow depend on a renewable system that can't possibly supply their energy demands at this point in time? Silver lining? I think not.
I keep shaking my head at the number of people here who somehow think you can just shut down all the oil and gas production and turn a switch...magically we are running on renewable energy, likely helped by massive amounts of pixy dust.
You really need to understand that the US oil and gas system shutting down is not good for you as a US citizen, it is extremely bad.
Not good for your livelihood, you mean.
Cog wrote:The silver lining that some seek here is the death of billions. Which is exactly what shutting down oil/gas production would achieve. They couch it in different terms but that is their desired outcome.
rockdoc123 wrote:I am retired, my last board position expired a couple of years ago
rockdoc123 wrote:ask yourself this...can you do without heat, water, transportation?
rockdoc123 wrote:if suddenly the US stopped producing oil and gas entirely
asg70 wrote:rockdoc123 wrote:I am retired, my last board position expired a couple of years ago
Yet the industry has been good for you. You're hardly objective.rockdoc123 wrote:ask yourself this...can you do without heat, water, transportation?
Last I checked, the powerdown I am talking about in the OP isn't saying there's no oil use. It's power DOWN, not power OFF. Yet you just move to an extreme case of using no fossil fuels at all in order to paint a portrait of helpless dependency.rockdoc123 wrote:if suddenly the US stopped producing oil and gas entirely
Which has nothing to do with the OP. What I see here is someone who is just triggered and looking for a whipping-boy.
asg70 wrote:Change can be scary until you get a taste of it and realize, gee, it wasn't so bad after all.
Retirees who made their entire careers off of mid 20th century attitudes are hardly the sages we should be listening to in determining what kind of change is feasible.
asg70 wrote: Human beings in general are pleasure seekers. Powerdown is ANATHEMA to that regardless of your political ideology. Asceticism simply doesn't sell.
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asg70 wrote:You had me up to citing George Carlin. There is a strong nihilist streak in today's society that is in love with Carlin and others of his ilk.
JuanP wrote: I couldn't help but notice that you left out or forgot sex when making your observations about our evolution. I think sex probably gave most people significant amounts of pleasure.
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