ROCKMAN wrote:ennui - So true. If one wants to see a true revolution in the US all the govt needs to do is add another $0.50 to motor fuel taxes. Or shutdown some fossil fuel fired power plants supplying some major US cities. Then we would see blood in the streets. LOL.
dohboi wrote:Hundreds of millions to billions are spent every year to manipulate the masses, and then the millionaires and billionaires just love to turn around and blame the manipulated masses for the decisions they've been successfully manipulated into making. It's an old game, but the players have access to much more powerful tools these days--actually, we're all pretty much their tools these days.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:dohboi wrote:Hundreds of millions to billions are spent every year to manipulate the masses, and then the millionaires and billionaires just love to turn around and blame the manipulated masses for the decisions they've been successfully manipulated into making. It's an old game, but the players have access to much more powerful tools these days--actually, we're all pretty much their tools these days.
Of course. No one who claims they are "manipulated" should face ANY consequences for their actions. They should just whine that it's some arbitrary rich peoples' fault, and that they should be made whole.
That should work out about as well as 50+ years of the liberal "war on poverty", resulting in more poor people and far more people on food stamps than ever.
Or in your mind did the "Occupy Wall Street" movement do as much good for its participants as getting more education or another or a better job would have? Or just making some effort to improve their situation?
But let me guess: Bill Gates and Warren Buffett (and their henchmen) were physically preventing all those clueless people from taking any positive action to improve themselves.
Yeah. That's the ticket.
Hawkcreek wrote:If you are just trying to say that everyone really deserves the shitty circumstances that they find themselves in, and that everything is only the stupid peoples fault -- we already know you believe that.
Cid_Yama wrote:What caused Carter to lose the election was Baker's back door deal with Likud to supply military spare parts to Iran, in exchange for Iran holding the Hostages until after the election, and reimbursement and support for Israel from the Republicans, once in office.
shortonoil wrote:Put a fire under the pot, and the water gets hot! The heat generated from burning fossil fuels each year is equivalent to more than twice the heat absorbed by all the world's oceans every year. The world's oceans are getting hot at a rate of 1° F every 32 years. In less than a century there will not be many things remaining alive in them.
shortonoil wrote:Is global warming a real political issue, or an excuse to provide tenured professors with lucrative research grants. Goldman Sachs is planning on making billions by selling carbon credits.
shortonoil wrote:Let's end this charade of multi billion dollar save the world investigations, and simply turn down the heat -- before the frog gets sick of the whole rigamarole, and jumps out of the pot.
ennui2 wrote:Cid_Yama wrote:What caused Carter to lose the election was Baker's back door deal with Likud to supply military spare parts to Iran, in exchange for Iran holding the Hostages until after the election, and reimbursement and support for Israel from the Republicans, once in office.
It was one factor, but the economy was in the crapper too and Carter was blamed for it. Reagan promised morning in america again and people wanted to buy into that narrative. They didn't want "malaise" anymore.
ennui2 wrote:In a democracy, the fish rots from the bottom up. In other words, a gullible and ignorant electorate is the root of all problems. We get the government we deserve.
Now, if we instituted an IQ check before you were entitled to vote maybe elections couldn't be manipulated by cheap propaganda tactics. But we allow all mouth-breathers to vote, which is why Trump is going to win the GOP nom.
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