Revi wrote:Most of the plans to keep us under 2 degrees C rely on negative emissions, which don't exist yet.
Revi wrote:It's really interesting to think about. We are told that we can't do anything about our own suicidal trajectory because it might hurt the economy. What good is an "economy" when there is no place to spend it? This system helps some of us out, but the lines of refugees aren't going to partake of it.
Revi wrote:I am just reading this book. It's got short chapters, but I am reading just one or two at a time because it's so intense.
Below is an article that was used as the basis for the book which just came out this year.
The reality is that we are headed for around 4 degrees by the end of the century. We are already in a climate crisis.
Most of the plans to keep us under 2 degrees C rely on negative emissions, which don't exist yet.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/07/ ... umans.html
Cog wrote:I think we are supposed to believe that humans ended the last glaciation period. That any warming that melted all the ice that was sitting over North America was our fault.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:Cog wrote:I think we are supposed to believe that humans ended the last glaciation period. That any warming that melted all the ice that was sitting over North America was our fault.
Comments like that DON'T make you at all credible, re the issue.
The time period re AGW discussed is since the industrial revolution started causing serious amounts of global fossil fuel burning. We're talking well under 200 years. And as far as the serious warming, we're talking the last 6 decades or so.
But hey, such ideas will play well for sure on the denier sites, where facts and science are largely ignored.
Cog wrote:I'd say I'm more credible than Al Gore who predicted in 2008 that the Arctic would be ice-free by 2013, or John Kerry who predicted in 2009 that the Arctic would be ice-free by 2014. But I'm not a smart Democrat politician like they are. I'm just a deplorable not worthy of consideration.
Cog wrote:The 7 billion plus who inhabit it now, would disagree with your conclusions about habitability.
Cog wrote:Outcast_Searcher wrote:Cog wrote:I think we are supposed to believe that humans ended the last glaciation period. That any warming that melted all the ice that was sitting over North America was our fault.
Comments like that DON'T make you at all credible, re the issue.
The time period re AGW discussed is since the industrial revolution started causing serious amounts of global fossil fuel burning. We're talking well under 200 years. And as far as the serious warming, we're talking the last 6 decades or so.
But hey, such ideas will play well for sure on the denier sites, where facts and science are largely ignored.
I'd say I'm more credible than Al Gore who predicted in 2008 that the Arctic would be ice-free by 2013, or John Kerry who predicted in 2009 that the Arctic would be ice-free by 2014. But I'm not a smart Democrat politician like they are. I'm just a deplorable not worthy of consideration.
Cog wrote:
I'd say I'm more credible than Al Gore who predicted in 2008 that the Arctic would be ice-free by 2013, or John Kerry who predicted in 2009 that the Arctic would be ice-free by 2014. But I'm not a smart Democrat politician like they are. I'm just a deplorable not worthy of consideration.
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