Tanada wrote:Newfie wrote:Or a FedEx truck?
When you have the nicest house in a shitty neighborhood there is a good chance it will be vandalized while you are on vacation, just because.
So you worry and sweat and take measures to protect your pretty house. But you become a slave to protecting the house.
That’s asymmetric warfare on a simple level. We have a lot of assets to protect, including our population. Iran, maybe not so much?
Indeed, the key to asymmetric warfare has always been the same tactic. Make your powerful enemy waste their treasure and lives while you survive to annoy them. Being annoying is easy peasy, it doesn't take a lot of money or a lot of manpower.
The biggest fear about dealing with fanatics is that, for example, infiltrators attack American infrastructure like transformer farms scattered everywhere and never guarded. The USA is Cris-crossed with utility pipelines, high tension power lines, and so on and so forth. The idea of defending more than a tiny percentage of that is a fantasy and any infiltrators worth the name would wreck havoc until they were caught.
Newfie wrote:2 minds with one thought. If you had a dozen 2 man squads, each with a 50 cal, you could make a massive mess of the country in short order.
EnergyUnlimited wrote:Trump have decided not to retaliate further at least at the moment.
Hence it have been decided that a number of american casualties is zero.
This is an interesting development.
Trump have certainly got his cassus belli which he was longing for.
So he could easily declare 10-20-100 casualties and proceed with retaliation for these.
But he didn't.
But again, all these widely advertised missile defences obviously have failed.
dissident wrote:The accuracy of the Iranian strike was nothing to sneeze at:
That is why the number of deaths was controlled. If the accuracy of the missiles was poor as assorted chest thumping chauvinist idiots are claiming, then the collateral damage would have been higher.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:And to the best of my knowledge, no one credible has come close to claiming there are impenetrable missile defences at every base, etc.
Oh, and he might claim some arbitrary number of casualties, but if it's a false claim, as much as many folks around here are paranoid about the MSM, etc., I wouldn't expect such a claim to hold up over time. So I wouldn't expect the US military apparatus to go along with Trump on such a claim.
Cog wrote:There are no Patriot AA batteries at the airfield that the Iranians hit. Why should there have been? We're we supposed to predict that the Iranians would go full retard and launch missiles from their own soil into Iraq?
Basically if you think modern day Persians are any better war fighters than Arabs, you have no knowledge of military history in the last 50 years. Just ask the Israelis.
asg70 wrote:It's funny to see how quickly the discussion seems to pivot over to something indistinguishable to color commentary during a football game. Human nature...
asg70 wrote:It's funny to see how quickly the discussion seems to pivot over to something indistinguishable to color commentary during a football game. Human nature...
careinke wrote: Maybe the next step will be bringing our Warriors home.
Once brought back they (vets) are often ending up homeless on a street... fentanyl addiction follows soon and the rest you know.
According to the decision of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky, the State Commission for Investigation of the Boeing Accident arrived at Tehran tonight. The group consists of 45 people, representing 12 ministries and agencies.
A meeting is currently underway with the participation of representatives of the competent authorities of Iran, including Iran's ICAO, an international civil aviation organization. Different versions of a sudden plane crash are studied, among the main ones:
- the defeat of the aircraft by an anti-aircraft missile (SAM), in particular, "Thor" SAM, as information on the detection of fragments of a Russian missile near the crash site has already appeared on the Internet;
- collision with a UAV or other flying object;
- destruction and explosion of the engine for technical reasons;
- explosion inside the plane as a result of a terrorist attack.
The commission includes experts involved in an international investigation into the attack by Russian servicemen on the Malaysian Boeing MN-17 on July 17, 2014 in the airspace of Ukraine, as well as the examination of fragments of the Russian anti-aircraft missile "Buk" that shot down a Malaysian aircraft. As you know, our experts have shown a high level of professionalism in this matter.
Our commission is currently agreeing with the Iranian authorities on the issue of the site of the disaster, and intends to search the fragments of the Russian anti-aircraft rocket "Thor" according to the data that was published on the Internet. We use all the experience of investigating the attack on the Boeing MN-17 to establish the truth in the case of the death of a Ukrainian aircraft in Tehran.
We are currently conducting effective diplomatic talks with the Iranian side, there is every reason to hope for cooperation on all issues, including the participation of our commission in deciphering the "black boxes" of our aircraft. The investigation into the deaths of Ukrainian citizens is under the personal control of the President of Ukraine, and we will immediately inform the Ukrainian society and the media of any data that may be published. "
( I am not permitted to post the link, it is on censor net )
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derhundistlos wrote:Once brought back they (vets) are often ending up homeless on a street... fentanyl addiction follows soon and the rest you know.
Do you have facts to substantiate your claim?
Booze is many times more destructive than fentanyl.
You've been listening to too much scaremongering. The numbers killed by alcohol dwarfs by many multiples deaths by fentanyl or prescription pills as reported by the CDC.
The people really being hurt by this inflammatory and jingoistic talk are those suffering from chronic pain due to industrial accidents or disease. I've now known two people who committed suicide (a mother suffering from MS and a man ravaged by pain due to work-related injuries) after their docs. arbitrarily discontinued their pain therapy due to dumb draconian laws that threatened their medical licenses.
Fortunately, the insanity (those who require pain meds. can't access treatment while those abusing the privilege have no problems finding sources) surrounding pain medication is confined to the United States.
careinke wrote:Why not?
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