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Re: Islamic Terrorism

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 22 Jul 2016, 15:06:16

Shooters have just targeted people at the central railroad station in Munich. The German police say it is likely a terror attack.

Supposedly 3 (?) armed suspects are being sought after the shooting.

Germany had a terror attack just last week when a youthful Muslim refugee from Aghanistan yelling allah akbar attempted to axe murder people on a train. It will be interesting to see who is responsible for this latest terror attack in two weeks in Germany.
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Re: Islamic Terrorism

Unread postby onlooker » Fri 22 Jul 2016, 15:55:57

I posted this on the new Tanada thread about this latest Germany attack. I think we will be trying all to distinguish whether "Yes, I think we have to now be attuned to whether authorities are calling this an "inspired" attack or an "operational attack". Inspired as in not coordinated or planned with assistance of others, simply autonomously planned and executed. Operational is with coordination and assistance by and with others ie. Terrorist organization."
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Re: Islamic Terrorism

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 22 Jul 2016, 16:15:17

onlooker wrote: we have to now be attuned to whether authorities are calling this an "inspired" attack or an "operational attack". Inspired as in not coordinated or planned with assistance of others, simply autonomously planned and executed. Operational is with coordination and assistance by and with others ie. Terrorist organization."


Thats a useful distinction. THANKS!

So the Orlando attack seems to be a inspired attack. Omar decided, apparently on his own to shoot up a gay club.

AND the Paris and Brussels attacks would be operational since there was a complicated plan carried out by a group of people, at least of whom actually had been in Syria in the Caliphate.

The Nice attack was originally thought to be inspired….but now is also looking like an operational attack----Mohamed the truck driver did the killing alone----but now the French say 5 other people helped him plan it over the last year.

The Caliphate is already cheering on the Munich attack so at first glance it appears to operational---but maybe it isn't actually IS at all, but instead maybe anti-immigrant radicals?
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Re: Islamic Terrorism

Unread postby Newfie » Fri 22 Jul 2016, 17:44:40

OK, maybe a stupid question but here goes.....

Is there any link/tie/correlation between radical Islam and BLM?

I ask because in Philly you see a lot of black folks wearing Islamic garb.

As I said, maybe a stupid question, I don't know the answer or who to ask.
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Re: Islamic Terrorism

Unread postby Subjectivist » Fri 22 Jul 2016, 20:11:46

Newfie wrote:OK, maybe a stupid question but here goes.....

Is there any link/tie/correlation between radical Islam and BLM?

I ask because in Philly you see a lot of black folks wearing Islamic garb.

As I said, maybe a stupid question, I don't know the answer or who to ask.


Many members of BLM are Sunni Muslim believers. Some small percentage are radical, but nobody will publish a number because it is politically incorrect.
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Re: Islamic Terrorism

Unread postby onlooker » Sat 23 Jul 2016, 02:46:53

Another stupid question or observation. But did anybody else notice that BLM can also be the acronym for BLACK LIBERATION MOVEMENT . Coincidence ? Also wonder if any members were and are members of both groups?
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Re: Islamic Terrorism

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 26 Jul 2016, 14:26:29

Now the Islamic Terrorists in Europe are threatening German nudists with "extermination"

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Thats the last straw! Nudism is an important part of German culture. When I was in Berlin I was surprised to find that Berlin is set in an area of beautiful small lakes and even more surprised to find I could take a city tram out to a nude beach at the lakes. Sometimes Germans even sunbathe in the nude in the city parks in central Berlin. From the Nazis to the Communists to the modern day---physical culture and enjoying nature and nudism are firmly part of German culture.

The Germans were silent when Merkel opened the doors to a million Muslims last year. There was some outrage when Muslims attacked and sexually assaulted thousands of German women last New Years eve, although the police successfully covered up much of it.

But this has to be the last straw! No German worth his salt is going to take having their nude beaches closed down by a bunch of religious nuts, even if they are Moslems!!!!

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Moslem terrorists are now threatening to exterminate German Nudists!!!!!! Thats going too far!!!!
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Re: Islamic Terrorism

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 30 Jul 2016, 17:44:38

The Caliphate is training the children of western IS fighters to be terrorists when they grow up.

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It seems creepy to train children to be terrorists, but there is a long history of this sort of thing in Islam. Starting in the 1340s the Ottomans used Janissaries as shock troops in their wars against Christendom----Janisarries were Christian children stolen in the Balkans and raised as Moslems to be elite soldiers for the Caliph. At their peak there were over 100,000 Janissaries fighting for the Caliph in Istanbul.
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Re: Islamic Terrorism

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 31 Jul 2016, 20:51:24

Khizr Khan, the Moslem who denounced Donald Trump at the DNC, just said in a CNN interview that Islamic terrorism has nothing to do with Islam.

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I never quite get that point of view. Obviously Islamic Terrorism has something to do with Islam----in fact Islamic terrorism is based directly on fundamentalist interpretations of the Koran and its teachings that things like Sharia Law, the Caliphate, and Jihad are integral to Islam.

Mr. Khan may not agree with the interpretation that Islamic terrorists put on the Koran and Islam, but it is a black-hearted lie for him to declare that islamic terrorism has nothing to do with Islam.

This kind of wild, mindless speech is really setting the US back in dealing with this problem. From Obama who can't even say the words "Islamic terrorism" to news commentators who claim Islamic terrorists are all "crazy" to people like Mr. Khan who live in a fantasy world where Islamic terrorism has nothing to do with Islam, there is a significant group of people out there, many of them in the D party, who just can't handle the truth.

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Re: Islamic Terrorism

Unread postby dissident » Tue 02 Aug 2016, 21:38:51

Political correctness is a serious social disease with Orwellian characteristics. It kills the truth and paralyzes proper action. America needs to flush this nonsense down the toilet. Unlike the USSR there isn't some rabid ideology at the core of the system and the nation. The US founding fathers are spinning in their graves.
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Terrorist Threats: USDA closes offices in 5 states

Unread postby vox_mundi » Tue 30 Aug 2016, 13:48:54

They're keeping a very tight lid on this for the time being ...

Agriculture Department Closes Offices In 5 States, Citing Threats

Anonymous messages threatening the safety of USDA (U.S. Department of Agriculture) employees and facilities in 5 states, prompted the federal agency to close offices immediately.

USDA spokesman Matthew Herrick said in a statement that the department had received "several anonymous messages" that raised concerns for the safety of USDA employees and facilities.

The closed facilities are in Fort Collins, Colorado; Hamden, Connecticut; Beltsville, Maryland; Raleigh, North Carolina; Kearneysville, West Virginia and Leetown, West Virginia.

They include offices for eight USDA agencies, including the Forest Service and the Food Safety and Inspection Service. Among the sites affected was USDA’s sprawling agricultural research center and library in Beltsville, where employees were informed of the threat Tuesday morning and sent home.

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In an email to employees, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said USDA is closing the offices “due to the serious nature of these threats. He did not characterize the threats or say how they were received, but asked employees to be aware of their surroundings and report any suspicious activity.

White House Spokesman Josh Earnest said the Department of Homeland Security is working with USDA “to ensure the safety of their offices and the personnel that work there.”

“Personnel at these locations have been made aware of the threats and will not report to these offices until further notice,” Herrick said.

The Agriculture Department has nearly 100,000 employees spread out across thousands of locations. The closures announced Tuesday are impacting an array of agencies and offices, including the Forest Service, Food Safety Inspection Service and the department’s inspector general.

The FBI discussed possible threats against U.S. agriculture in a 2012 bulletin that stated "terrorists consider America's agriculture and food production tempting targets."

Rather than attacks against specific offices or employees, however, the bulletin focused heavily on contamination of the U.S. food supply through "agroterrorism," which it defined as “the deliberate introduction of an animal or plant disease for the purpose of generating fear, causing economic losses, or undermining social stability."

It noted that U.S. and allied forces discovered al-Qaida training manuals that targeted agriculture in 2002 in Afghanistan.

"If terrorists strive for human deaths, the food production and distribution chain offers a low-tech but effective mechanism for disseminating toxins and bacteria," the bulletin said.

Either, somebody doesn't like the price of corn ... or it's Orange Alert time like the Good Old Days
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Re: Terrorist Threats: USDA closes offices in 5 states

Unread postby vox_mundi » Tue 30 Aug 2016, 16:07:24

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... In West Virginia, Jefferson County Sheriff Pete Dougherty said by telephone that his office was notified of the threat on Monday by a USDA employee in the Kearneysville, WV facility, located in the northeastern part of the state.

"It's a threat to do harm to people at the facility until the police arrive. They were going to break into the building," Dougherty said by telephone.
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Re: Terrorist Threats: USDA closes offices in 5 states

Unread postby Peak_Yeast » Tue 30 Aug 2016, 16:58:18

Uh - I immediately assumed the terrorists was trying to videocam the abusive and horrible factory farming methods...
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Re: Terrorist Threats: USDA closes offices in 5 states

Unread postby vox_mundi » Tue 30 Aug 2016, 17:11:52

Peak_Yeast wrote:Uh - I immediately assumed the terrorists was trying to videocam the abusive and horrible factory farming methods...


The hate us for our freedoms
... As you know, the FBI divides the terrorist threat facing the United States into two broad categories, international and domestic.

During the past several years, however, special interest extremism, as characterized by the Animal Liberation Front (ALF), the Earth Liberation Front (ELF), and related extremists, has emerged as a serious domestic terrorist threat.

Special interest terrorism differs from traditional right-wing and left-wing terrorism in that extremist special interest groups seek to resolve specific issues (... like abusive and horrible factory farming), rather than effect widespread political change (... like voting for Bernie Sanders).

Such extremists conduct acts of politically motivated violence to force segments of society, including the general public, to change attitudes about issues considered important to the extremists’ causes (... like getting poisoned by Corporate America).


... or maybe they were going to sprinkle some magic UG99 fairy dust around, though it's a little late in the season for that.
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Re: Terrorist Threats: USDA closes offices in 5 states

Unread postby vox_mundi » Tue 30 Aug 2016, 20:47:27

Threat Widens: Threats made to NC State, Virginia Tech, USDA; Centennial Campus USDA office closed in response

North Carolina State Police just released a WolfAlert regarding an unconfirmed threat to campus.

"Along with individuals at other universities and the USDA, two faculty members at NC State received an email that included a general, unconfirmed threat to campus. NC State Police have determined that several dozen individuals at Virginia Tech University received the exact same email threat yesterday.

The email was sent from at least four separate Google Mail accounts with the subject "Warning," according to a report in Collegiate News at Virginia Tech.

The email said:
"I am here to inform that in the next couple of days I will break into the campus and will kill as many people as I can untill the police arrives (sic)."

According to Kelly, the threat was able to be traced back to a location overseas and the two NC State faculty members received the exact same message as those at Virginia Tech.

Virginia Tech Campus Police are investigating, according to the Washington Post. Virginia Tech Campus Police also reported that four other universities received the same email as of Monday afternoon.

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Re: Terrorist Threats: USDA closes offices in 5 states

Unread postby Theedrich » Wed 31 Aug 2016, 19:36:20

Stasis = Clitory; change = Trump. Period. (The pothead third “choice” is meaningless.) As much as the generic TV-hypnotizee may claim to want change, the polls show otherwise. After all, as the Demonic Party implies, if you don’t like more crime, you’re racist. The current election is all about whether to continue or stop the death march. Since withdrawal is always painful, the masses, manipulated by DeepState Sörös and by syndicates both legal and illegal, are choosing to continue. The DeepStaters’ and syndicates’ enabler, Hotflash the fairy godmother and bribee, promises infinite growth and further enrichment of the elites. Donald Trump offers living within the limits to growth and a stop to parasitic crony capitalism.

While this unequal contest is going on between a corrupt racketeeress and a builder, the rest of the world is not standing still. Foremost in threats to the very survival of America is cybercrime. Nation states, subnational criminal groups, hacktivists and disgruntled individuals are working diligently to gain access to our industrial secrets, our bank accounts, and, among other things, to manipulate even our elections, which are now dependent on electronic voting.

In the presidential election of 1960, the Demonic Party (and John Kennedy) won through corruption of the vote in Chicago and Hawaii. The Party’s machine simply physically falsified the vote tallies, using dead people and other chicaneries. But today that party has many adept cyber specialists at its disposal, as has been shown by the fact that Hotflash, its leader, was able to maintain a private server on which to do government business, then have it thoroughly wiped clean so that investigators could not read its contents. The idea that her minions would suddenly turn honest can be believed only by the dippy college-educated White women who want to see While males destroyed at any cost.

The FBI is doing its best to find men of integrity, physical strength and high intelligence with great cyber skills to prevent, deter and frustrate cyber invasions, and to capture those who seek to turn America upside down through electronic means. But Clitory will defeat that agency’s efforts, because her masters foreign and domestic want to disembowel the U.S. and cannibalize it for their own gain.

She also intends to import, from the MENA deserts and elsewhere, even more excreta than the currently enthroned Negro now destroying the country is bringing in. Yet in spite of all of these and many other threats, the polls show that the proles are determined to vote for more-of-the-same HRC.

Because withdrawal would be just too painful.
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Re: Terrorist Threats: USDA closes offices in 5 states

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Thu 01 Sep 2016, 00:59:19

I recall having our Mobil Oil office in New Orleans closing several times in the mid 70's due to telephine threats.They stopped those evacuations when the guessed they were called in by Mobil employees. LOL. True story. Eventually they even stopped terterlling us when they received a threat. But then one day the building blew up and I was killed. Probably not a true story.
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Re: Terrorist Threats: USDA closes offices in 5 states

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Thu 01 Sep 2016, 23:05:33

ROCKMAN wrote:I recall having our Mobil Oil office in New Orleans closing several times in the mid 70's due to telephine threats.They stopped those evacuations when the guessed they were called in by Mobil employees. LOL. True story. Eventually they even stopped terterlling us when they received a threat. But then one day the building blew up and I was killed. Probably not a true story.

Actually, more believable than much of what our politicians tell us.
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Re: Terrorist Threats: USDA closes offices in 5 states

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Fri 02 Sep 2016, 00:49:06

Outcast - On a very serious note thankfully the terrorist don't really understand American sensitivities. Otherwise a handful couild create 100X the NATIONWIDE terror generated by 9/11 and do it with no airplanes and $200 worth of easily acquired material. Or with a bit more effort (but not nearly as much as highjacking a commercial airliner) devastate our country's economy in a manner which would continue for many, many decades.

And no....no details will be provided. Too many ears on the net. LOL.
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Re: Islamic Terrorism

Unread postby onlooker » Tue 29 Nov 2016, 09:15:30

Reality check for the anti Muslims. 20 Million Muslims March Against ISIS and The Mainstream Media Completely Ignores It
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/20-mil ... 2y8wgvP.99
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