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Re: Singapore Going Down the Toilet

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Tue 14 Apr 2009, 05:08:20

SeaGypsy wrote:Given though that wages in Singapore are triple what they are anywhere else in that part of the world they have a fairly long way to fall although far less than the USA. Rents are outrageous, not far off NYC.


They are going to fall very far very fast. The bigger you are, the harder you fall. Small is Good :-)

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Re: Singapore Going Down the Toilet

Unread postby deMolay » Tue 14 Apr 2009, 06:40:38

Good pick up RE. Singa poor was the "GoldenChild" of SE Asia. I wonder if they are still caning kids for chewing gum and spitting it on the sidewalk?
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Re: Singapore Going Down the Toilet

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 14 Apr 2009, 06:59:26

No need, chewing gum is illegal.
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Re: Singapore Going Down the Toilet

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Tue 14 Apr 2009, 07:47:59

Singapore’s GDP dropped an annualized 19.7% last quarter from the previous three months: "more than double the 9.6 percent drop predicted in a Bloomberg survey, and the biggest since at least 1975."
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Re: Singapore Going Down the Toilet

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Tue 14 Apr 2009, 08:39:45

No need, chewing gum is illegal.

I have heard that few years ago they have made it illegal to piss into lift.
Perhaps it was a large social problem in the past.
They have installed urine detectors in skyscrapers lifts and these are directly connected to police stations.
I do not know, would you be immobilized in the lift once you are detected pissing, though.
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Re: Singapore Going Down the Toilet

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 14 Apr 2009, 08:57:24

EnergyUnlimited wrote:
No need, chewing gum is illegal.

I have heard that few years ago they have made it illegal to piss into lift.
Perhaps it was a large social problem in the past.
They have installed urine detectors in skyscrapers lifts and these are directly connected to police stations.
I do not know, would you be immobilized in the lift once you are detected pissing, though.


Lift? Lift is getting a car ride. :lol:

Hey bud, can ya get me a lift!

Next you will tell me a 'boot' is the trunk.
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Re: Singapore Going Down the Toilet

Unread postby OutOfGas » Tue 14 Apr 2009, 10:35:10

The global economy has been built on cheap labor and cheap energy.

Take cheap energy and transportation out of the equasion and you have
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Re: Singapore Going Down the Toilet

Unread postby Artman12 » Tue 14 Apr 2009, 11:45:56

EnergyUnlimited wrote:
No need, chewing gum is illegal.

I have heard that few years ago they have made it illegal to piss into lift.
Perhaps it was a large social problem in the past.
They have installed urine detectors in skyscrapers lifts and these are directly connected to police stations.
I do not know, would you be immobilized in the lift once you are detected pissing, though.


We always heard that they would be immobilized,(and I never tried to find out) but that didn't seem to stop the lifts from smelling like piss. By the way, they aren't just in skyscrapers. Most apartment buildings had them also.
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Re: Singapore Going Down the Toilet

Unread postby Pretorian » Tue 14 Apr 2009, 13:39:48

ReverseEngineer wrote:
SeaGypsy wrote:Given though that wages in Singapore are triple what they are anywhere else in that part of the world they have a fairly long way to fall although far less than the USA. Rents are outrageous, not far off NYC.


They are going to fall very far very fast. The bigger you are, the harder you fall. Small is Good :-)

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I guess RetardedEngenier has size issues. No wonder he never got a woman.
As for the topic, " while the fat dries, the thin dies" ever heard this simple truth? No matter how deep Singa will fall, his neighbours will be worse off and will be dieing to get in.
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Re: Singapore Going Down the Toilet

Unread postby lowem » Wed 15 Apr 2009, 01:33:19

vision-master wrote:Lift? Lift is getting a car ride. :lol:

Hey bud, can ya get me a lift!

Next you will tell me a 'boot' is the trunk.


There's more where that came from :

windscreen / windshield
bonnet / hood
car park / parking lot
petrol / gasoline
number plate / license plate

football / soccer
holiday / vacation
toilet / bathroom

shoelace / shoestring
torch / flashlight
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Re: Singapore Going Down the Toilet

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Wed 15 Apr 2009, 02:00:44

Pretorian wrote: No matter how deep Singa will fall, his neighbours will be worse off and will be dieing to get in.

...until Malaysia cut them off from water and electricity supplies, once they have failed to pay their bills, or just for fun :-D
And if e-rubbish can no longer be sold, how they would pay for food, I wonder?
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Re: Singapore Going Down the Toilet

Unread postby lowem » Wed 15 Apr 2009, 04:21:02

EnergyUnlimited wrote:...until Malaysia cut them off from water and electricity supplies, once they have failed to pay their bills, or just for fun :-D


Not to worry, we will use NeWater. In fact if push comes to shove we might even have to drink it :lol:

And, you probably mean natural gas supplies, for electricity. Yes, Malaysia is the other supplier, Indonesia is the primary supplier. And, Singapore is building its own LNG terminal. Yeah! (*sigh*)

To top it off, we may no longer need to worry about energy both for electricity and for desalination, once we go nuclear. Yup you heard that right. Nuclear power for Singapore. I used to kinda lobby for that. The Greens, or what passes for Greens around here, were/are understandably horrified. That's fine. Build one in my backyard. Except that living in an apartment (flat), I don't *have* a backyard. Muahaha.

EnergyUnlimited wrote:And if e-rubbish can no longer be sold, how they would pay for food, I wonder?


We will help LucasArts create more Star Wars/Clone Wars episodes for your consumption.

We will build more solar panels and less semiconductor chips.

We will, we will (I need help here), oh yes, we will open the casinos (um, "integrated resorts") soon. Do not worry about Las Vegas Sands (was $138, now $5), they will build our project. And *only* our project.

We will (I need to think), ok, we will continue to host Formula 1. That will bring in the crowds. Yes.
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Re: THE Singapore Thread (merged)

Unread postby lowem » Tue 14 Jul 2009, 09:36:56

Like Jim Puplava says, "less bad is the new good".

Singapore upgrades 2009 GDP forecast to a contraction of 4-6%

Singapore's economy is expected to contract four to six per cent this year, up from an earlier projection of a six to nine per cent fall, due to less severe contraction in the first half of the year ...on a year-on-year basis, the economy for the first quarter of 2009 contracted by 9.6 per cent.


On the other hand, the government is trying to manage expectations by downplaying the "green shoots" thing.

MTI warned of a weak economic recovery susceptible to downside risks for the rest of the year.


And I say, watch out for that Double L, coming to an economy near you.
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Re: THE Singapore Thread (merged)

Unread postby lotrfan55345 » Sun 23 Aug 2009, 22:11:55

I have successfully managed to smuggle gum into Singapore and chewed
1) walking off the plane
2) the queue for immigration
3) on the MRT
4) on the street
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Re: THE Singapore Thread (merged)

Unread postby lowem » Sun 23 Aug 2009, 22:56:47

lotrfan55345 wrote:I have successfully managed to smuggle gum into Singapore and chewed
1) walking off the plane
2) the queue for immigration
3) on the MRT
4) on the street


Hey, haven't seen you around for a while, how're you doing.

I'd suppose it's alright as long as you don't go around sticking the stuff onto lift buttons, MRT train doors, or just plain dropping it on the floor for other people to step on. The other no-no is actually offering it for sale. Other than that, I haven't heard of people getting prosecuted for simply chewing it.
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Re: THE Singapore Thread (merged)

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 24 Aug 2009, 07:28:39

Smuggling anything into Singapore is easy but if you get caught you may well hang. Not sure they would hang a gum smuggler. There are places like Geylang in Singapore where illegal cigarettes are sold in the street very openly for half price. They are from India and Malaysia mostly.

25 years ago my father was pulled up at Changi airport for a mandatory haircut, his hair was just over the collar; he refused to ever go to Singapore again. Nowdays it's common to see dreadlocked feral druggies looking paranoid and trying to stay calm in Changi airport.

One of the weird things one experiences in Singapore is when catching trains around the city; announcment on the loadspeakers on the train (in English) "If you see any suspicious object or person, please report it on the intercom next to the train doors."
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Re: THE Singapore Thread (merged)

Unread postby lotrfan55345 » Fri 28 Aug 2009, 19:27:19

lowem wrote:Hey, haven't seen you around for a while, how're you doing.

I'd suppose it's alright as long as you don't go around sticking the stuff onto lift buttons, MRT train doors, or just plain dropping it on the floor for other people to step on. The other no-no is actually offering it for sale. Other than that, I haven't heard of people getting prosecuted for simply chewing it.


Yes it has been quite awhile since I have posted, but I do lurk occasionally. I am doing good, how about you?

I was in Singapore in July, very nice city, very nice and extensive public transportation. It is amazing there are still all those developments (esp. Marina Bay Sands!) despite the -8% GDP recession. I was also surprised at the number of foreigners, since it seemed like more than half the people I saw on Orchard Road and the CBD were white. I felt like I was still in America (or to be more accurate, Australia).

I didn't realize that I was chewing gum until I was in the taxi out of Changi, chewing is a habit on planes since my ears always clog up without it. But since the immigration officer didn't comment on the chewing, I figured it was fine ;)

But from what I could tell, I can see Singapore doing fairly well in an oil-reduced environment, since everyone has access to public transportation and there are extensive water catchment areas as well as desalinization plants. The biggest issues would be food supply and migration into the city, most likely these would cause strain in the ever-important relationship with Malaysia.
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Re: THE Singapore Thread (merged)

Unread postby lowem » Tue 01 Sep 2009, 10:58:59

lotrfan55345 wrote:I was in Singapore in July, very nice city, very nice and extensive public transportation. It is amazing there are still all those developments (esp. Marina Bay Sands!) despite the -8% GDP recession. I was also surprised at the number of foreigners, since it seemed like more than half the people I saw on Orchard Road and the CBD were white. I felt like I was still in America (or to be more accurate, Australia).


July eh? Some of those folks might have been from the USS Ronald Reagan? :)

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Re: THE Singapore Thread (merged)

Unread postby lowem » Tue 01 Sep 2009, 11:08:03

lotrfan55345 wrote:Yes it has been quite awhile since I have posted, but I do lurk occasionally. I am doing good, how about you? ... from what I could tell, I can see Singapore doing fairly well in an oil-reduced environment, since everyone has access to public transportation and there are extensive water catchment areas as well as desalinization plants. The biggest issues would be food supply and migration into the city, most likely these would cause strain in the ever-important relationship with Malaysia.


Ah yes, I'm fine, thanks. For the moment, anyway.
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Uh, sort of.

I've been making some trips across the newly-opened section of the Circle Line, it's pretty good, finally we've got the missing link between the two north-south going lines. They are going to double the MRT rail network by 2020. But yeah, long before that I would worry about the supply chain issues.
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Re: THE Singapore Thread (merged)

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 01 Sep 2009, 12:56:22

Hey iowem i will be in singapore again on 9/20 if you would like to bang heads?
I noticed a much smaller backlog of shipping last time 6 weeks ago.
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