frankthetank wrote:The article i posted **claims** that on a tank you can go 50 miles @ 70mph...and a recharge would cost 2.50 in France...
dontworryaboutpeakoil wrote:When you have an Air Car that can be refueled in 3 minutes, I think the argument that compressed air is inefficient is terribly wrong.
rerere wrote:dontworryaboutpeakoil wrote:When you have an Air Car that can be refueled in 3 minutes, I think the argument that compressed air is inefficient is terribly wrong.
Given you have rejected the idea of http://www.ruf.dk out of hand, even though the RUF system can solve the power distribution problem of a low oil - higher electricity world that your air car solution would need, why have you not answered the question about just swapping out the batteries in an electric car at a electric battery station?
Well? What is wrong with the battery swap idea? (even though the battery swap still has the lack of power grid to support such an action)
dontworryaboutpeakoil wrote:rerere wrote:Well? What is wrong with the battery swap idea? (even though the battery swap still has the lack of power grid to support such an action)
The idea of swapping batteries is just impractical. Can you imagine an 80 year old grandma getting out of her car to replace a heavy battery? I don't see it.
dontworryaboutpeakoil wrote:And electric vehicles don't have the range required.
dontworryaboutpeakoil wrote:And as others have stated, batteries break down, and potentially are dangerous.
dontworryaboutpeakoil wrote:I like the idea of driving up to an Air Station, and refueling the Air Tank through a nozzle. Very simple. 3 minutes to refuel, and you drive off.
rerere wrote:dontworryaboutpeakoil wrote:And electric vehicles don't have the range required.
What is this 'required' range? You have never stated what the 'required range' is.
Bytesmiths wrote:rerere wrote:dontworryaboutpeakoil wrote:And electric vehicles don't have the range required.
What is this 'required' range? You have never stated what the 'required range' is.
Without otherwise passing judgement on the "air car," I'd like to point out that available electric vehicles have <b>at least</b> the 50 mile published range of the air car. In fact, I'd view limited range as a negative in the air car column, <b>not</b> in the electric car column.
As I see it, the primary advantage of the air car is cheap manufacturing. It fails dismally on efficiency. Isn't chasing the cheap approach what got us here?
But really, folks -- either the air car or the electric car are just matters of moving polution away from cities, at a considerable cost in energy. When you factor in conversion losses, neither of these approaches is as efficient as even a 1980's era diesel. Either of these approaches will result in burning <b>more</b> fossil fuel, not less!
rerere wrote:dontworryaboutpeakoil wrote:rerere wrote:Well? What is wrong with the battery swap idea? (even though the battery swap still has the lack of power grid to support such an action)
The idea of swapping batteries is just impractical. Can you imagine an 80 year old grandma getting out of her car to replace a heavy battery? I don't see it.
Because you have an adjenda and are unwilling to listen to alternative POVs.
The car drives up over an automated system. The 1000+ lbs of batteries are disconnected from the bottom of the car, the battery pack is moved out of the way and a recharged pack is put into place. The drivers credit card is charged for the service and the charge level. Of course, this swapping idea isn't needed with a RUF model, but you have rejected the RUF idea.
What is this 'required' range? You have never stated what the 'required range' is.
Then you are not here to hear why "the air car" is a poor idea, but how the Air Car is a great plan, and all humanity should have 3 right now!
dontworryaboutpeakoil wrote:Bytesmiths wrote:... either the air car or the electric car are just matters of moving polution away from cities, at a considerable cost in energy. When you factor in conversion losses, neither of these approaches is as efficient as even a 1980's era diesel. Either of these approaches will result in burning <b>more</b> fossil fuel, not less!
Explain how an air car that can travel 300KM on one tank of air, and can be refueled in THREE MINUTES is inefficient??
dontworryaboutpeakoil wrote:How much energy is required to create electricity to pump the air for 3 minutes??
dontworryaboutpeakoil wrote:The Air car can travel 300KM on one tank. If they put two tanks, that range is doubled to 600KM.
dontworryaboutpeakoil wrote:Mexico is buying them as taxis.
So is south Africa.
This proves that the Air Car is no gimmick but a reality.
dontworryaboutpeakoil wrote:Since it has an onboard battery, we'll still have heat...
DvidBrent wrote:Alternatively, you could invade a still oil-rich nation like Iraq... Any idea how we can sell that to the public?
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