rockdoc123 wrote:There is a model which can employ all forms of energy....cleaner emissions from oil and gas, clean coal, water power where is is available, wind and solar to add to a hydrocarbon supplied power base and be available in off the grid areas.
sparky wrote:. The main US industry is creating greenbacks , by far all the money given away to various wall street companies are foreign money the US dollar is the world trading currency , this allow the US reserve bank with a press of a button , to "print" trillions of dollars there is no american manufacturing muscle left anymore except military weapons forced down the throat of "allies"
sparky wrote: should the US have to finance its extravagant military spending from its own resources it would be twenty time smaller should the US have to finance its extravagant "rescue" from its own resources it would be nonexistent
sparky wrote: The main US industry is creating greenbacks, by far all the money given away to various wall street companies are foreign money.
jedrider wrote:.We're going to be a train wreck ourselves. Even the Murder Hornet will be having a field day with us.
sparky wrote:.
the US balance of trade is financed by the creation of dollars
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/BN ... view=chart
jedrider wrote:I look at it this way. We are currently pumping the Ogallala Aquifer dry in order to feed ourselves, to keep up our meat eating proclivities. What happens when that is gone? There is no such long term thinking as that will collapse the current economic regiment of BAU. BTW, the PBS series H2O is really a fantastic summary of our water woes current and to come.
We're heading off a cliff at full speed and no one can deny this. Can high-speed rail be the answer? It is predicated on population growth. Everything is predicated on population growth, monetary growth, energy growth (hey, at least there is efficiency in that equation, including renewables, but it won't put an end to BAU).
We're going to be a train wreck ourselves. Even the Murder Hornet will be having a field day with us.
REAL Green wrote:This means go local and individual to address decline. Downsize with dignity because meaning will come from being more resilient and sustainable from a lower footprint.
Newfie wrote: Water is a real commodity. I just got the idea of a currency backed by water. In many ways more valuable than gold. Flush out the fiat currency. Maybe something like $1/gallon. Then see how things develop.
Newfie wrote:Monte, My thinking is someday someone will come by and trip over the monopoly board. All that fake money will scatter, most will simply disappear. POOF! Then we start over. And THAT will both hard and interesting.
Circular firing squad scores a hit: Real reason Michael Moore’s film axed from YouTube is climate wrongthink, not copyright
Michael Moore’s popular yet controversial exposé of the “green” movement’s corruption has finally been knocked off YouTube by a tactic that’s as cowardly as it is underhanded. Nothing upsets a cult like a successful apostate.
“Planet of the Humans,” posted to YouTube for free viewing on Earth Day, to the horror of the climate-change industrial complex, was removed from the platform on Monday, after a British environmental photographer filed a copyright claim. The deplatforming represents a triumph for the deep-pocketed “green” superstars who’ve been tearing their hair out over the film for the past month, livid over the unflattering portrayal of their crusade by the once-beloved liberal filmmaker, but unable to shut him up.
Photographer Toby Smith claimed the film – which had been viewed more than 8.3 million times before its removal – used “several seconds” of footage he’d shot of rare earth elements being mined without his permission. Unlike previous attempts to get the film taken down – which targeted its distributor with claims the film was packed with falsehoods and “fossil fuel industry talking points” – this angle of attack was successful, concealing the iron fist of censorship within the velvet glove of copyright law.
Smith could have gone directly to the filmmakers and complained, rather than running directly to YouTube. But the photographer made no secret of his true intentions. “I wasn’t interested in negotiation,” he told the Guardian on Tuesday, sniffing that he didn’t “agree with its message” and condemning “the misleading use of facts in its narrative.”
Michael Moore’s latest film targeted ‘renewables’ & accused ‘green’ groups of being in Big Energy’s pockets. It hit a nerveMichael Moore’s latest film targeted ‘renewables’ & accused ‘green’ groups of being in Big Energy’s pockets. It hit a nerve
Heaven forbid facts be used to support a narrative one disagrees with! That’s “disinformation,” in the Orwellian Newspeak parlance of centrist-liberal orthodoxy. Indeed, Smith and the rest of the film’s critics have tried every disingenuous trick in the book to get Moore’s film taken down, from guilt by association (it’s “endorsed by climate skeptics and right-wing think tanks!”) to shaming celebrity pile-ons. Documentary-maker Josh Fox even briefly convinced the film’s distributor to pull it by claiming it was “dangerous, misleading and destructive to decades of progress in environmental policy, science and engineering” – only to see it reinstated so as not to trigger the Streisand Effect (in which the backlash to censorship sees the offending work skyrocket in popularity as people flock to see what the controversy is about).
However, a copyright claim lets the haters memory-hole the film while maintaining plausible deniability around the censorship issue, allowing YouTube to dodge the thorny issue of deplatforming an Oscar-winning documentarian.
Never mind that Smith, like his climate-bigwig fellow critics Bill McKibben and Michael Mann, has an ideological motivation for silencing Moore. The film eviscerates the hypocrisy of the green movement, depicting the self-styled saviors of the planet as money-grubbing opportunists in bed with the same Big Oil interests they claim to oppose. The “renewable energy” that’s supposed to solve the climate crisis is revealed to be as environmentally devastating as the fossil fuels we’ve been taught to revile. Copyright lets YouTube claim they’re “just following orders.”
Jeff Gibbs, director of “Planet of the Humans,” recognized the spurious copyright takedown as an “act of censorship by political critics,” calling it a “misuse of copyright law to shut down a film that has opened a serious conversation” about “green capitalism” and Wall Street profiteering within the environmental movement. “This is just another attempt by the film’s opponents to subvert the right to free speech,” he told the Guardian, adding that he was working with YouTube to get the film back up.
But Big Climate doesn’t want a serious conversation. They’re accustomed to knocking heretics off social media – or at least marginalizing them – with minimal effort. Well-funded online activism group Avaaz has been engaged in a full-frontal assault on “climate misinformation” on YouTube for months, implicitly threatening both the video platform and the brands whose ads appear on climate-skeptical videos with the wrath of millions of armchair inactivists if they don’t suppress the offending content. Just last week, Facebook’s fact-checkers squelched a PragerU video debunking the “climate change is killing the polar bears” meme, even though it was backed by expert science.
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