[Jotapay]

If the NWO guys are trying to hatch a conspiracy, shouldn't they avoid using the phrase in public? Come on. You guys are so predictably pavlovian. You're like Butthead saying "huh huh huh, he said... beaver".

You're ignoring everything posted above. You always ignore the evidence posted (1800 news articles) and say something really, really stupid in response.

Did you get anywhere at all in college? Were you ever openly mocked by professors for your critical thinking skills? They really are terrible. Seriously, 1800 articles elicits a response that includes Butthead to build an argument? That is all you have? That is embarrassing, and made in public no less. When your contribution to a discussion doesn't add anything, and actually leaves the discussion with less thoughtfulness than before your post, then you have not just added nothing to the argument, you have sucked intelligence from it like a black hole. You are like the walking black hole of rational discussion. You add less than nothing with a net balance in the figurative red. Mathematically, that would be represented as: Before Mos > After Mos. Also: Mos' contribution < 0.

[Rambo]

If the NWO guys are trying to hatch a conspiracy, shouldn't they avoid using the phrase in public? Come on. You guys are so predictably pavlovian. You're like Butthead saying "huh huh huh, he said... beaver".

You're ignoring everything posted above. You always ignore the evidence posted (1800 news articles) and say something really, really stupid in response.

Did you get anywhere at all in college? Were you ever openly mocked by professors for your critical thinking skills? They really are terrible. Seriously, 1800 articles elicits a response that includes Butthead to build an argument? That is all you have? That is embarrassing, and made in public no less. When your contribution to a discussion doesn't add anything, and actually leaves the discussion with less thoughtfulness than before your post, then you have not just added nothing to the argument, you have sucked intelligence from it like a black hole. You are like the walking black hole of rational discussion. You add less than nothing with a net balance in the figurative red. Mathematically, that would be represented as: Before Mos > After Mos. Also: Mos' contribution < 0.

I 2nd that.

[Narz]

The New World Order is real 100% proof

Cool, it's about time, the Old World Order sure has a lot of problems, 'bout time we got an upgrade!

[Schmuto]

Just call them "deniers."

That's the new vogue.

Somebody doesn't agree with your opinion, they're a "denier."

[Ludi]

All I know is that if these guys are really making their big push for the New World Order that they've talked about for several hundred years, you better get ready for all the Eugenics programs they always wanted to impose to control the human population. Lots of people are going to die.

Wouldn't it have just been easier to provide birth control? Why did Bush Jr, presumably part of the Illuminati, essentially stop US family planning aid to Africa? Or is one of their eugenics programs to produce as many Africans as possible?

[Bas]

All I know is that if these guys are really making their big push for the New World Order that they've talked about for several hundred years, you better get ready for all the Eugenics programs they always wanted to impose to control the human population. Lots of people are going to die.

Wouldn't it have just been easier to provide birth control? Why did Bush Jr, presumably part of the Illuminati, essentially stop US family planning aid to Africa? Or is one of their eugenics programs to produce as many Africans as possible?

you're really sharp and to the point lately, Ludi

[Ludi]

Thanks. For guys who have been working to control the world for hundreds of years, they sure have made a lame job of it, seems to me. Unless of course they were trying to drive Homo sapiens to the point of extinction.

[Jotapay]

All I know is that if these guys are really making their big push for the New World Order that they've talked about for several hundred years, you better get ready for all the Eugenics programs they always wanted to impose to control the human population. Lots of people are going to die.

Wouldn't it have just been easier to provide birth control? Why did Bush Jr, presumably part of the Illuminati, essentially stop US family planning aid to Africa? Or is one of their eugenics programs to produce as many Africans as possible?

It's a bit hard to catalog everything that is going on around the world, but I can tell you that they do still immunize children in Africa and keep very good records of it. And some of us have poor opinions of what the vaccines are really all about.

David Rockefeller, honorary head of the Council on Foreign Relations, had this to say about China and Mao after his 1973 visit. Remember, Mao killed almost 40 million people through his policies. "The enormous social advances of China have benefited greatly form the singleness of ideology and purpose.... The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in history." David Rockefeller, New York Times, 8-10-1973.

Here is a society which plans for the future of human evolution. They discuss Eugenics and how undesirable characteristics should be weeded out of a population.
http://www.transhumanism.org/index.php/WTA/faq21/66/

Eugenics was all the rage in the 1930s before Hitler gave it a bad name. There are many, many quotes by world leaders about how to reduce the size of the human population and how to make it more manageable and easier to control. In some ways I think their plans are logical on the surface, but as an American who lives under a Bill of Rights, the implementation seems deplorable.

[RedStateGreen]

If they really do have a plan, it seems to be for their financial gain and little else. Lots of poor people = lots of desperate mouths who will do anything for pennies to get a crust of bread = lots of workers who you don't have to pay much to.

I don't think running Earth into the ground even enters their minds as they cruise along in their Lear jets. Those that are that rich live in a different world than the rest of us. They will always have plenty of whatever they need, until the day that money means nothing. Then they will come out of their Matrix into the real world.

Won't they be in for a surprise.

[Jotapay]

Thanks. For guys who have been working to control the world for hundreds of years, they sure have made a lame job of it, seems to me. Unless of course they were trying to drive Homo sapiens to the point of extinction.

I don't know. If you look at bankers and their CEO buddies, who they put in place and fund, they have done pretty well. One way to gauge their success is to study the spread of the Western Central Banking system to virtually every country in the world. The only three countries without a Western central bank today are North Korea, Cuba and Iran. Countries that rejected Western Central Banks (like the Czars of Russia) were vilified, invaded and slaughtered.

Also, look at their other stated goal of world government. This is the stated goal of both the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. The Trilateral Commission's goal is to form regional super-governments in Europe, Asia and North America. They are making definite strides. The trans-national transportation system for North America is currently being built. The Council on Foreign Relations was started after World War 1 when the United States Senate rejected US membership in the League of Nations. The CFR was created/funded by John D Rockefeller in 1921. The administrations of virtually every president since LBJ have been chock full of CFR members.

So yes, I'd say they have been fairly successful at pursuing their goals so far. World government and unified banking doesn't happen overnight. My only question is how successful they will be at getting the world's population down to 1 billion - 500 million people before peak oil lays waste to their plans.

[POAlex]

I'm just thankful the ending has already been written.

Alex

[vision-master]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbU_Po4sfnw


People who still deny it are the ones with mental Illness.

No, ppl with mental Illness understand perfectly.

[dinopello]

If they really do have a plan...

It's more a gentleman's agreement than a plan, really. Or, in religious parlance - a covenant. It's a bit like herding cats though. Takes lots of manuevering and of course, feline psychology (as it were).

[JJ]

do the latin words in the pyramid on the back of the dollar bill mean *new world order*. Somebody told me they do.

[Jotapay]

do the latin words in the pyramid on the back of the dollar bill mean *new world order*. Somebody told me they do.

Sort of.

The Latin above the pyramid, ANNUIT COEPTIS, means, "God has favored our undertaking." The Latin below the pyramid, NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM, means, "a new order has begun."

[Jotapay]

This is straight from the goddamn horse's mouth. Straight from the Council on Foreign Relations' site.

This is the kind of stuff Alex Jones and others have been reading for years and ranting about. Every one said they're crazy, but it's right-fucking-there! This is just one of their many white papers. People like Mos and whatnot can continue to keep their head in the sand, but these CFR members are rife throughout the administration. They want a global government and unified banking system. That means no more borders. No more US Constitution.

http://www.cfr.org/content/thinktank/CF ... rogram.pdf

International Institutions and Global Governance Program
World Order in the 21st Century
A New Initiative of the Council on Foreign Relations

May 1, 2008

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) has launched a comprehensive five-year program on international institutions and global governance. The purpose of this cross-cutting initiative is to explore the institutional requirements for world order in the twenty-first century. The undertaking recognizes that the architecture of global governance—largely reflecting the world as it existed in 1945—has not kept pace with fundamental changes in the international system, including but not limited to globalization. Existing multilateral arrangements thus provide an inadequate foundation for addressing today’s most pressing threats and opportunities and for advancing U.S. national and broader global interests. The program seeks to identify critical weaknesses in current frameworks for multilateral cooperation; propose specific reforms tailored to new global circumstances; and promote constructive U.S. leadership in building the capacities of existing organizations and in sponsoring new, more effective regional and global institutions and partnerships. This program is made possible by a generous grant from the Robina Foundation.

[Plantagenet]

the New World Order came and went.

This luxury we had (to yap on the internet; to purchase and consume at midnight in January a tropical fruit, etc. from a nearby convenience store, etc.) is over but was a direct consequence of global trade with China, India, et. al. They had our intellectual property and we their physical labor and resources.

Eventually their wealth was to increase and ours to decrease--parity would be achieved. It seems that several things ruined the plan;
--inherent contradictions in capitalism (see Marx, don't whine to me),
--greed and stupidity,
--peak planet

The Chinese don't seem to be buying into this message....even in the global economic recession their economy is still growing.

Chinese auto sales surpass those in US

[raisinbran]

Wow,

Very interesting to see this "New World Order" starting to gain traction. I have been following the NWO for a long time, read up on a lot of history.

Turns out not only is the NWO a plan for government, but is patched together like a really eclectic, satanic religion, with members all over the place.

There is an abundance of parrots "exposing" the NWO, David Icke, Alex Jones, Edward Griffin, Ron Paul, but really they only touch the surface. They mostly say that it is all about creating a total, oppressive world government, controlled by money men and bankers. While this holds some merit, it goes much deeper than that.

If you read up on NWO enough (not just on the internet), you'll find profoundly religious overtones. It supposed to be something like Satan's counterfeit Kingdom on Earth. Many "NWO nuts" don't like delving into this, just stopping at the "rich banksters running the world" but the overwhelming evidence shows that, whoever these people really are, apparently worship something Satanic like, thinking he is God.

Most people call this just 'insane'. But the crazy part is that seemingly inexplicable things like 9/11, the holocaust, or other genocides make so much more sense in this context.

Perhaps the most readliy available evidence for what I am saying are the symbols. These people apparently communicate via symbols. You can find symbology almost everywhere. Basically if you see some notable images like:

The sun, the sunrise (Shell, BP, Barrons, Malt-o-meal, Dole, Target (actually the ancient egyptian sun symbol))
The pyramid or triangle (dollar bill, AOL, ameritrade, DARPA)
The Earth (AT&T, U.N., Firefox)
Five pointed Star (Everywhere)
Four colors (red, blue, yellow, green - look at google, msn, kroger gas stations)
The eye (Toyota, dollar bill, time warner)
And others like the cross, the moon, the obelisk (washington monument), saturn (internet explorer, nissan), spirals, the circle, the oblong square, the shield (on many universities and cars)

Numbers like 3,4,6,11,13,33 are all highly symbolic

In fact as I write, I am eating a mott's apple sauce, downing nestle pure life water. They both have sun's rays emitting on their packaging.

And, yes, phrases like the "New World" or "New World Order" are also symbolic.

Look around for symbols i just mentioned. You don't have to look too hard. You'll see a pattern.

[raisinbran]

Here's the kroger gas logo, apparently it's new or something

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/429617070_1df27c3bbf.jpg%3Fv%3D0&imgrefurl=http://flickr.com/photos/99358760%40N00/429617070&usg=__lvo8n3tnqZHIPWnrEu9I-owMqVg=&h=375&w=500&sz=90&hl=en&start=30&um=1&tbnid=gc7oqViYN7wHUM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkroger%2Bgas%2Bstation%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us%26sa%3DN%26start%3D20%26um%3D1