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Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 03 Dec 2023, 18:03:17

Shaved Monkey wrote:Palestinians water controlled by Israel

https://youtu.be/bCh043-gLIM


And Israel's Jordan river flow is controlled by Syria. Take a break from the mainstream news SM, it's full of bullshit about the poor Hamas being persecuted after they slaughtered hundreds of unarmed Jews in a border incursion. Have you seen the vids? Probably not. The Australian government filters out so many websites now. I use a VPN and have seen them, dragging injured women across the ground by the hair and screaming Allah Akbar. They raped a lot of them and then drove around the city with their half naked dead bodies in the back of utes, screaming Allah Akbar, their own people filming it and uploading it like a victory parade. No one is allowed to see that in the West though, too brutal, so hide it behind a pixelated image.
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Unread postby jedrider » Mon 04 Dec 2023, 15:35:04

Top news today in WSJ says Israel and Hamas are engaged in 'fierce' battle while showing the Gaza being blown up.
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 05 Dec 2023, 17:25:40

Latest is the jews plan to pump in seawater to flood the miles of tunnels under the city. The pumps are already in place. Very clever, get out or drown.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -sea-water
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Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Tue 12 Dec 2023, 19:13:25

Salt water in the aquifers makes the land uninhabitable but great for gas and oil exploration
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 13 Dec 2023, 02:36:59

I was listening to an analysis of the shale 'revolution' in the US. The millions of tons of sand and toxic chemicals injected underground has poisoned vast swaths of land, all of which would have impossible if the following hadn't happened.

The EPA began preparing its report on hydraulic fracturing and the Safe Drinking Water Act in 2000, after an Alabama court forced the agency to investigate fracturing-related water contamination there under the Act. While the EPA was still working on its report, legislation was being crafted to exempt hydraulic fracturing from the Safe Drinking Water Act. To lessen the pressure on the report's findings, the EPA sought an agreement with the three largest hydraulic fracturing companies, including Halliburton, to stop using diesel fuel in fracturing fluids.

The EPA released its study in 2004, and was later criticized. ...The study focused solely on the effect hydraulic fracturing has on drinking water in coal bed methane deposits, typically shallow formations where gas is embedded in coal. It did not consider the impact of above-ground drilling or of drilling in geologic formations deep underground, where many of the large new gas reserves are being developed.

Further, buried within the 424-page report are statements explaining that fluids migrated unpredictably -- through different rock layers, and to greater distances than previously thought -- in as many as half the cases studied in the United States. The EPA identified some of the chemicals as biocides and lubricants that “can cause kidney, liver, heart, blood, and brain damage through prolonged or repeated exposure." It found that as much as a third of injected fluids, benzene in particular, remains in the ground after drilling and is “likely to be transported by groundwater."

A few months after the report’s release, the 2005 Energy Policy Act was passed, exempting the practice of fracking from the Safe Drinking Water Act, based in part on the EPA study...
https://www.gem.wiki/Fracking_and_water_pollution

And the rest of course, is history.

Federal Drilling and Fracking Update: Biden Promised a Ban – He’s Doing the Opposite https://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/2021/ ... -opposite/

Over four years, the Trump administration dismantled major climate policies and rolled back many more rules governing clean air, water, wildlife and toxic chemicals.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... -list.html

Doesn't matter who's in power, the corporations win. Then all these wealthy pigs will more away to their overseas homes and leave the mess behind. It's like a mine owner, he'll visit the mine, work there, but at the end of the day wants nothing to do with the place thereafter.
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Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Sun 17 Dec 2023, 19:21:41

IDF attacking Christians in their convents with snipers and tank rockets now
2 dead and then destroyed the building, then targeted the solar panels and water tanks too
54 disabled people some that need respirators are now out in the street

https://twitter.com/LPJerusalem/status/ ... 25/photo/2
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Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 17 Dec 2023, 20:00:30

Biden spent years criticizing the Saudis for fighting against the Houthis in Yemen.

Now the Houthis are attacking ships and even US warships with drones and missiles, but the US isn't attacking back-----the lack of a US response seems bizarre, given that there are US warships in the area.

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It makes one wonder what it is about the Houthi terrorists that makes Biden so anxious to avoid anyone attacking them?

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Unread postby yellowcanoe » Sun 17 Dec 2023, 22:28:50

Plantagenet wrote:
It makes one wonder what it is about the Houthi terrorists that makes Biden so anxious to avoid anyone attacking them?

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The missiles they are firing don't require a fixed infrastructure. They fire a missile from a civilian area and then move out. If you bomb the launch point all you do is kill a bunch of civilians. The only way to completely stop it would be a ground invasion similar to what the IDF is conducting in Gaza. Do you really want the US to get involved in that type of war when the vast majority of ships sailing there are not American flagged?
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Unread postby Newfie » Mon 18 Dec 2023, 08:22:11

Yellow,
That is an interesting question. Tb3y may not be flagged as American but they are definitely effecting the American economy.

A distinction to be sure, I am not sure which one carries greater weight.
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 23 Dec 2023, 11:14:53

Shaved Monkey wrote:IDF attacking Christians in their convents with snipers and tank rockets now
2 dead and then destroyed the building, then targeted the solar panels and water tanks too
54 disabled people some that need respirators are now out in the street


Yes well that happens when you sit on your fat righteous arse in the middle of a warzone. Quite honestly anyone who was there even before the war started deserves their fate imo. That's in a strict Darwinian sense, like wtf are you doing in a land where the ruling regime's sole aim is to murder civilians, to go to war with the forth most powerful nuclear power on earth? Billions in Aid spent on war instead of on lifting the standard of the inhabitants. Miles of tunnels dug for the sole purpose of war. The gazaite leaders are typical brainless hate-filled religious zealots and those who chose to live under their rule deserve exactly what they are getting.

Personally I think the Israelis have shown great restraint over the years but they have obviously reached the end of their tether. Let the rest of the arab world howl and spit their threats, the joos could nuke them all in an hour and the whole world would be a better place for it. Launch the ICBMs I say. Be done with all this nonsense!
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Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Sat 23 Dec 2023, 21:33:30

theluckycountry wrote:The gazaite leaders are typical brainless hate-filled religious zealots and those who chose to live under their rule deserve exactly what they are getting.


Not just the Gazaites leaders only exist as a results of trying to resist other typical brainless hate-filled religious zealots be they Jew or Christian
The death cult that dreams of armageddon to bring forth the rapture and end times is backing one team to the hilt.
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 24 Dec 2023, 03:30:14

Shaved Monkey wrote:The death cult that dreams of armageddon to bring forth the rapture and end times is backing one team to the hilt.


Nuclear war isn't a death cult, it's just another form of war and those ambivalent about it are hardly all religeous. Humanity goes through war cycles, always has from the beginning of time and it usually occurs when one group is starving and the other is burnt out from rich living. If you look into the culture of Israel you'll find that most of them aren't religious at all, that's just a minority. They are no different to the french or the Americans or the Indians, they band together wherever they are and don't generally trust outsiders.

There is no question they inhabited that land long before the Jordanian arabs moved into it, but that's beside the point. They won it at the point of the sword and that is how all nations are won and held. As long as they can defend it they own it, the same as the White Australians own Oz, and whatever is left of the Americans own America. For now.
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Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Sun 24 Dec 2023, 18:57:51

Evangelical Protestants, who lean more Republican, account for about 24% of the adult US population, according to 2021 Pew Research Center research.

In terms of support for the Israeli government, 68% of white evangelicals express a very or somewhat favorable view

American evangelical support for Israel is tied into beliefs about the state’s role in accelerating the second coming of Christ. “I think we all agree that he’s coming soon,” said Darling, referring to the epic battle of Armageddon where Jesus returns to earth.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... y-gaza-war
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Unread postby careinke » Mon 25 Dec 2023, 06:21:52

Shaved Monkey wrote:Evangelical Protestants, who lean more Republican, account for about 24% of the adult US population, according to 2021 Pew Research Center research.

In terms of support for the Israeli government, 68% of white evangelicals express a very or somewhat favorable view

American evangelical support for Israel is tied into beliefs about the state’s role in accelerating the second coming of Christ. “I think we all agree that he’s coming soon,” said Darling, referring to the epic battle of Armageddon where Jesus returns to earth.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... y-gaza-war


The Islamic take on the Second Coming of the Great Prophet Jesus (Peace be upon him) is a little different than most of you have heard. I was told this by more than one Saudi Officer who was also a Matawa

When Armageddon starts it will be a war with the Jews and Christians on one side and The Muslims on the other. When Jesus returns the Christians will immediately know who Jesus is, and bow down to him.

Jesus will tell the Christians they have been deceived by the Jews and need to join their brother Muslims and eliminate the Jews. So the Muslims and Christians join forces to eliminate the Jews. As an added bonus Jesus performs a miracle and all the rocks and trees point out where the Jews are hiding, so they are quickly removed from Earth.

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Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 25 Dec 2023, 18:23:38

Shaved Monkey wrote:American evangelical support for Israel is tied into beliefs about the state’s role in accelerating the second coming of Christ. “I think we all agree that he’s coming soon,” said Darling, referring to the epic battle of Armageddon where Jesus returns to earth.


Yes well they don't know their bible if they are talking about the destruction of the world per se. The battle of Armageddon is actually a quite localized event, in Israel only. It involves, as best the experts can fathom, the armies of the Arab nations along with Russia. The utter destruction across the globe is another matter, but the term Armageddon is Hollywood's now so you get their spin on it.

Sure their are lots of nuclear weapons, but as Tanada has gone to great pains to point out, their use does not mean the end of the world, their effects are localized and life goes on afterwards. "On the Beach" was a great book, I just re-read it a month ago, but it's scifi, it's not an extrapolation of real world science, the nuclear winter was debunked long ago.

I mean Thousands of nuclear weapons have been detonated, all over the globe, many above ground in the US and it's business as usual as long as you don't want to live at ground zero.

As usual the Armageddon phenomena is mostly a US thing, fed by endless Hollywood movies.
Check out this one, Barack and Michelle Obama are among the executive producers HaHaHa, yeah right, like they would know shit about film production. But they will be Paid Heaps you can bet.

Leave the World Behind warns of America's doomful destiny
https://independentaustralia.net/life/a ... tiny,18194
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 25 Dec 2023, 18:33:10

careinke wrote:Jesus will tell the Christians they have been deceived by the Jews and need to join their brother Muslims and eliminate the Jews. So the Muslims and Christians join forces to eliminate the Jews. As an added bonus Jesus performs a miracle and all the rocks and trees point out where the Jews are hiding, so they are quickly removed from Earth.

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That would make a good movie. If the arabs had a movie industry that is, which they don't. They don't actually make anything themselves other than clay bowls and brick shanties. No wonder the US military called them sand niggers.
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Unread postby careinke » Tue 26 Dec 2023, 02:17:44

theluckycountry wrote:
careinke wrote:Jesus will tell the Christians they have been deceived by the Jews and need to join their brother Muslims and eliminate the Jews. So the Muslims and Christians join forces to eliminate the Jews. As an added bonus Jesus performs a miracle and all the rocks and trees point out where the Jews are hiding, so they are quickly removed from Earth.

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That would make a good movie. If the arabs had a movie industry that is, which they don't. They don't actually make anything themselves other than clay bowls and brick shanties. No wonder the US military called them sand niggers.


You get no argument from me. The first time I went to Saudi, 1979, Dhahran had movie theaters and western females did not have to cover their hair. Most of the coastal cities were more liberal. I believe it was due to traders living on the coast.

Saudi made knives were always a lot more expensive than from other ME countries. We used to joke they were more expensive because a Saudi actually working was a rare event. :-D

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Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Mon 15 Jan 2024, 05:25:07

Saint Porphyrius Church is said to be the third oldest in the world. Seventeen people were killed there in an Israeli air strike on October 19
Considered to be the third oldest church in the world, Saint Porphyrius was built in 425 on the foundations of an ancient pagan site and was named after the Byzantine saint who had made it his mission to close down the pagan temples. He is thought to have been buried on the grounds of the church.



https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/1 ... -destroyed
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Shaved Monkey wrote:Saint Porphyrius Church is said to be the third oldest in the world. Seventeen people were killed there in an Israeli air strike on October 19
Considered to be the third oldest church in the world, Saint Porphyrius was built in 425 on the foundations of an ancient pagan site and was named after the Byzantine saint who had made it his mission to close down the pagan temples. He is thought to have been buried on the grounds of the church.



https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/1 ... -destroyed


Where would you propose that the 2 million citizens of Gaza be moved to so that the historic places in Gaza can be preserved?
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 15 Jan 2024, 16:36:18

careinke wrote:You get no argument from me. The first time I went to Saudi, 1979, Dhahran had movie theaters and western females did not have to cover their hair. Most of the coastal cities were more liberal. I believe it was due to traders living on the coast.

Saudi made knives were always a lot more expensive than from other ME countries. We used to joke they were more expensive because a Saudi actually working was a rare event. :-D

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lol. Hey inke have you seen what they are doing down by the red sea with that artificial city, the line. It's well under construction now but the vid I watched also pointed out several other serious construction works, a huge port, a luxury Island like the ones Dubai have built, and a 2000m high resort with snow fields. They have no shortage of money (oil) to throw around. I wonder who's doing the actual construction work?

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