But you said:"I think it is possible to predict realistically HOW Mankind will confront these problems. And so my posts are about how human society will evolve in the century ahead, being shaped by: (1) Resource constraints (2) Incredible advances in Science and Technology leading to some... SomethingElse.", though you then modified that with, "which is impossible to accurately forecast beyond a few short years.". Maybe you can't predict the future but you know a man who can? So what does he accurately predict for the next few years?Carlhole wrote:I can't predict the future but I can notice that the whole of Man's body of knowledge is on the verge of being virtualized. This represents a whole new stage in evolution. We will obtain some control over evolutionary processes by having gobsmacking quantities of supercomputing power available to us.TonyPrep wrote:As you're claiming to accurately predict the future over the next few years, what do you see?
dohboi wrote:So our computers are getting smarter and smarter while we are getting more and more stupid---and this is supposed to be a sign of a bright future?
Newfie wrote:I mean, you don't really think what you said makes any sense, do you?
Homesteader wrote:Pabolite, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he is saying we will be "going back" to our basic elements, as in decomposing.
The Future of Science conference was held in Venice, Italy in September of 2006. Peter Atkins, Daniel Dennett, Marc Hauser, and Ian Tattersall were interviewed at this the Second World Conference. The theme was evolution and as the organizers themselves state:
Evolution is a central concept in many spheres of human endeavour, ranging from astrophysics and genetics to philosophy and psychology. Reflection about evolution is reflection about ourselves, our future and our place in the universe.
Newfie wrote:So perhaps we have reached another kind of "limit to growth" in the sense that humanity can only cope with issues of particular complexity. Our internal wiring limits our ability to cope with the new difficulties we face. In this sense our "limit to growth" is that we, humans, have reached beyond our capacity to manage.
Lore wrote:Hence, you have a large group of knuckle dragging chuckleheads that feel that the danger neither exists, is overblown, or can just be ignored until it actually happens. It’s not surprising that some groups would take advantage of this human frailty for their own ends.
This goes back to the ole "fight-or-flight response". Humans are wired, as most vertebrates, to respond to the immediate perception of danger.....since such dangers just do not elicit the appropriate reaction that an immediate threat would.
Cid_Yama wrote:The writing is on the wall. Nothing will be done. Mankind ends at it's own hand.
Intentional or unintentional doesn't matter.
Cid_Yama wrote:I'm sorry, but, SOME of us have evolved a little more than others and can recognize the threat at a greater distance. Just not enough of us.
Doesn't really matter, does it?
The writing is on the wall. Nothing will be done. Mankind ends at it's own hand.
Intentional or unintentional doesn't matter.
Cloud9 wrote:Ah, the Arian has revealed himself.
Cloud9 wrote:Ah, the Arian has revealed himself.
Please do.Carlhole wrote:There is a line of thought as regards human evolution: that the thought, meme, science, religion, language, culture, and tradition of human societies is an important part natural evolution. It is how human beings are adapted to confronting threats or opportunities. New ideas, discoveries, inventions...these things lead to wholly unpredictable outcomes. You're a fool if you think you can be certain about outcomes beyond, say, a few short years.
I can point to all kinds of game-changing science that makes it pretty clear to me that the future is wilder than its ever been.
TonyPrep wrote:Please do.Carlhole wrote:There is a line of thought as regards human evolution: that the thought, meme, science, religion, language, culture, and tradition of human societies is an important part natural evolution. It is how human beings are adapted to confronting threats or opportunities. New ideas, discoveries, inventions...these things lead to wholly unpredictable outcomes. You're a fool if you think you can be certain about outcomes beyond, say, a few short years.
I can point to all kinds of game-changing science that makes it pretty clear to me that the future is wilder than its ever been.
Is technological history a solid guide to the future? Not all problems are solvable (or not in a way that is desired). You're a fool if you think you can be certain about outcomes beyond, say, a few short years. But what about those few short years? Do you know anyone who is able to see the future, for certain, over a few short years? If so, what do they say?
Cid_Yama wrote:I'm sorry, but, SOME of us have evolved a little more than others and can recognize the threat at a greater distance. Just not enough of us.
Doesn't really matter, does it?
The writing is on the wall. Nothing will be done. Mankind ends at it's own hand.
Intentional or unintentional doesn't matter.
Editor:
Pertaining to all of this hoopla about "global warming," that we are being bomb-blasted with every day: Yes, we should clean up the pollution of the air that we breathe every day, but "global warming" is a natural phenomenon that has been going on for millions of years.
According to scientific study, "global warming" occurs about every 15,000-20,000 years, then in-between every cycle we have a cycle of "The Ice Age," that is what killed off all of the dinosaurs
http://www.newssun.com/opinion/ltr-1223-Streeter
* The name "Devo" comes "from their concept of 'de-evolution' - the idea that instead of evolving, mankind has actually regressed, as evidenced by the dysfunction and herd mentality of American society."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devo
Lore wrote:Here is you're typical comment from an average DEVO 'de-evolutionized' human being. [/color]
Carlhole wrote:Lore wrote:Here is you're typical comment from an average DEVO 'de-evolutionized' human being. [/color]
You can always tell when someone's out of intellectual ammunition: they grumble a lot, try to change the subject...
Lore wrote:Carlhole wrote:Lore wrote:Here is you're typical comment from an average DEVO 'de-evolutionized' human being. [/color]
You can always tell when someone's out of intellectual ammunition: they grumble a lot, try to change the subject...
What do you know, throw a rock into a pack of dogs and the one that gets hit is bound to yelp.
Return to Peak oil studies, reports & models
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 64 guests