Sixstrings wrote:How can the administration reject it, if Transcanada pulled the request?
Plantagenet wrote:The unemployment rate dropped to 5% today. Turns out we didn't need those high-paying union construction jobs building the pipeline anyway---we've got plenty of jobs in the service economy now and those older white union workers are all dying off anyway.
And we're in an oil glut now. Turns out we don't need that oil from the Alberta tar sands----at least not as long as we continue in an oil glut.
Its a win-win for Obama.
ROCKMAN wrote:Also had to avoid mention the US was suppling the rest of the world with refinery products made from almost 1 BILLION BBLS OF OIL PER YEAR. Rather difficult to point a finger over AGW at other countries when the US is a major supplier of the comodities used to produce the AGW.
Lore wrote:
Those high paying jobs were for Canadian workers putting the pipeline together.
Plantagenet wrote:Lore wrote:
Those high paying jobs were for Canadian workers putting the pipeline together.
Don't be silly. Its very easy for states to pass laws that tilt the playing field to favor their own local workers. For instance, we've got local hire laws here in Alaska to reduce the number of outside workers on projects and oilfield jobs here.
For that matter, under FEDERAL rules, the FEDS aren't supposed to give work permits visas to foreign nationals to enter the US to do jobs that Americans are available to do. If Obama didn't want Canadians to take the high paying union jobs he could've just not given the Canadians the special work visas they need to enter and work in the US.
Anyway, I don't know why you're kvetching about my post. Can't we just agree for once? This is a huge political victory for Obama. Thats why he staged a while house announcement to personally take his victory lap. Rockman does a very nice job above of critiquing O's white house TV speech.
Its a win win for Obama. Lets just salute the victor and enjoy this political moment together
Lore wrote:Sixstrings wrote:How can the administration reject it, if Transcanada pulled the request?
It was a request for delay which was rejected.
Sixstrings wrote:Lore wrote:Sixstrings wrote:How can the administration reject it, if Transcanada pulled the request?
It was a request for delay which was rejected.
So it's "I deny your request to rescind your request, so that I can have a press conference denying your request."
From: Bill McKibben and 350.org's Keystone team
Friends,
We just made history together. 4 years to the day after we surrounded the White House, President Obama has rejected the Presidential Permit for the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline!
This is huge.
A head of state has never rejected a major fossil fuel project because of its climate impacts before. The President's decision sets the standard for what climate action looks like: standing up to the fossil fuel industry, and keeping fossil fuels in the ground.
Make no mistake: this victory belongs to us, the movement. President Obama's courage today is a reflection of the courage shown by thousands of people who have sat in, marched, organized, (and opened a lot of emails) across North America against this pipeline.
This fight started with First Nations in Canada where the tar sands are extracted, and spread to farmers, ranchers and tribal nations along the pipeline route. Since then people from all walks of life have joined hands against Keystone, and the 830,000 barrels per day of destructive tar sands oil it would have carried through the country to be burned.
Together, we have shown what it takes to win: a determined, principled, unrelenting grassroots movement that takes to the streets whenever necessary, and isn't afraid to put our bodies on the line.
Politicians in Washington DC didn’t make this happen. Our movement did. We want to thank everyone who has been a part of this campaign -- from calling Congress to getting arrested on the White House fence.
You can join us in appreciating everyone who made this day possible by co-signing our thank you card to the movement -- we’ll deliver personalized versions of the card with your messages to everyone who has led or attended an action against Keystone XL since 2011. Click here to sign the thank you card to the #NoKXL Movement:
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Plantagenet wrote:“We are dismayed and disgusted that the President has once again thrown the members of LIUNA, and other hard-working, blue-collar workers under the bus of his vaunted ‘legacy,’ while doing little or nothing to make a real difference in global climate change,” Terry O’Sullivan, the union’s general president, said in a statement. “His actions are shameful.”
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Is Mr. O'Sullivan just figuring that out?
He's a slow learner.
Plantagenet wrote:“We are dismayed and disgusted that the President has once again thrown the members of LIUNA, and other hard-working, blue-collar workers under the bus of his vaunted ‘legacy,’ while doing little or nothing to make a real difference in global climate change,” Terry O’Sullivan, the union’s general president, said in a statement. “His actions are shameful.”
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Is Mr. O'Sullivan just figuring that out?
He's a slow learner.
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