[wisconsin_cur]

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Rural Kanpur is fighting its most frightening scourge — a mystery disease that has left a long line of bodies in its trail and doesn’t seem anywhere finished.

What started from one village two weeks ago has now spread to 350 and has so far claimed 160 lives. Thousands more are bed-ridden. On an average, 15 to 20 people have been dying every day; Saturday saw the highest toll in a day: 24.

The district’s health department is somewhat confused about the nature of the disease that has struck. At the beginning, the diagnosis was viral fever. Then doctors concluded that it was falciparum malaria. But after two weeks, they have ruled out both but still don’t have an exact answer.

“We really don’t know what exactly it is; we are depending on the finding of a team of specialists from New Delhi,” said Dr RC Agarwal, the district’s new chief medical officer.

Specialists from the Infectious Disease and Surveillance Programme, New Delhi, have collected the blood samples of a few patients. The team will make its findings known in a few days.

But the fear of the unknown has resulted in a mass exodus of villagers. Pulandar and Dhar villages under Malasa block are
the worst affected. About 1,000 people in these two villages alone are battling the disease. Dhar has taken the maximum number of casualties. The village has lost about 30 people but only one doctor has visited it so far. That was 15 days ago.

Kuldeep Singh and Ram Avtaar of Dhar break down screaming: “A lot of people can still be saved; we need doctors.” Rajesh of Pulandar village says: “Everyone here is waiting for doctors to come and examine people; but they aren’t coming and we are counting our dead.” On Sunday morning, the mystery fever claimed Tilak Singh (35) and his nephew Vikas Singh (11).

[eXpat]

Very disturbing, as yet the cause remains unidentified

After Kanpur, a sudden increase in the number of fever cases in Muzaffarnagar and its adjoining districts has become a cause of concern for the state Health department.

Several health centres in the district are handling around 300 cases of fever every day for the last one week. According to sources, in the recent past, around 20 people have died after suffering from fever in the district.

Health authorities, however, had claimed that in each of these cases, fever was coupled with pneumonia, malnutrition or anaemia — the main reasons behind the deaths.

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[RedStateGreen]

I was thinking this was going to be about some guerrilla fighters or something. I've never heard a disease referred to as 'violence' before...

[miles392]

I was thinking this was going to be about some guerrilla fighters or something. I've never heard a disease referred to as 'violence' before...

Yeah bad headline Interesting though, could be something some known disease of course just that they haven’t had the competence to pin it down. Keep an eye on it though.

[wisconsin_cur]

I was thinking this was going to be about some guerrilla fighters or something. I've never heard a disease referred to as 'violence' before...

It is called typing on way too little sleep... my brain thought it said one thing and the fingers heard another...

Very odd thing the brain!

[StuckInPhilly]

N5H1 mebbe? They don't really say how long it's taking to kill people, though.

[MidwesternMom]

Thanks for the link, I will be following this story closely, we are planning a trip to New Delhi in January...

[Taghayee]

That being said, not only Kashmir belongs to India but the entire ugly state of Pakistan. Ugly because they were separated by the Brits under the banner of Islam. Ugly because muslims fell for it.

Correct me then. I don't believe Britain wanted India partitioned. I thought India decided that for themselves. The Brits just left.
Edit: Just reading wiki, if its correct, then seems I'm wrong. Never mind.

Among many Muslims, India is held in much much higher regards than Pakistan. Aside from few American created wahabis and their cronies, there is nothing but hate for Pakistan. Why?

Well, Pakistan 'won' its independence through the Muslim League (party) that was headed by Jinnah. Jinnah, a British educated and probably one of the most intelligent (academically) figures of the Indian independence movement, was fooled by the British into believing that Pakistan would in fact encompass the areas between Iranian border in West all the way to Bangladesh and Northern India. He was sold.

In the 1936 and latter elections the Muslim League did very bad in areas what is today Pakistan. Congress Party, the current party in power in India, was the local favorite. The entire Pakistani creation was all just a conspiracy with Jinnah as its mule.

[Nickel]

Pakistan is made by British and for British.

Oh, that's rubbish. Once the Raj was over, the Brits wanted nothing more than to pull the rip cord and leave India. But the Muslims espoused the Lahore Resolution -- in 1940, years before independence -- and refused to be a minority in a united India, and the British obliged them. The Brits of the day have a lot to answer for, but dividing India of their own volition isn't one of those things. That you can place squarely at the feet of the Muslims and the nationalist Hindus who hated them, and thus were all to happy to cut them loose.

[dorlomin]

The vast majority of Indian Muslims did not arrive there as conquerers but as are original inhabitants who converted to the religion. People may wish to pause for a moment and consider the historical Islam against being from a lower caste of Indian society. Actualy many of the converts had no caste, they came from the pre Ayran inhabitants of India who were apallingly treated for millenia. The word Caste actauly means colour, the aryans came from the central asian plains and conquered India imposing an indo european language and culture on the locals. This imposition included an aparthied like system of grading everyone by social class that was very strongly linked to the shade of there skin. In the south of India the the largest group of pre IndoEuropeans (ayrans) are the Dravidians, although the Mughal did not really reach the very south there were large groups of Muslims there.

History in these really ancient places (like India) has a history all of its own, to which our war on terror and even the "transient pulse of industrial civilisation" are nothing but footnotes and will battle for attention against other such reason phenomena and Tamur the lame, the Muhgal empire, the British East India Company and the Soviet Union. Brief pulses and pauses set against a history more than 4000 years old.

I notice that a group claiming responsibility for this named themselves the Deccan mujahedin. Well the Deccan is a large geological area in what used to be Hyderabad. Hydrabad was a state that was governed by a muslim after independence in 47, in 48 the Indian army invaded and has been accused of rape, murder and looting of muslims as it forced Hyderabads ascention into the Union of India (now Republic), I cannot attest the veracity of that other than there was an invasion during an incredibly brutal partition. There efforts to link this attack with the partition massacres is somewhat notable.


And just too show the loonspudery and murder is not a one way street....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiv_Sena

The Shiv Sena has also been accused of orchestrating violence against Muslims. The Sena is widely alleged to have played an active role in the riots in Mumbai following the demolition of the Babri Mosque in 1992 in the north-Indian holy city of Ayodhya. On 23 January 1993, the then Congress-led Government of Maharashtra appointed Justice B.N. Srikrishna (then a sitting Judge of the Bombay High Court) to head a one-man commission with the task of investigating the riots. The Commission indicted the Sena for its direct involvement in coordinating the anti-Muslim riots, and accused Thackeray of "commanding his loyal Shiv Sainiks to retaliate by organised attacks against Muslims."[53] However, Thackeray was absolved of all criminal charges in July 2000 after seven years of judicial proceedings.[54]

Additionally, as part of their efforts to hamper any collaboration between India and the Muslim dominated Pakistan, Shiv Sainiks have resorted to damaging cricket pitchs in stadiums where the Indian and Pakistani cricket team were scheduled to play. The two most prominent instances of the Sena's targeting pitches are the destruction of the pitch at Mumbai's Wankhede Stadium in 1991 and the vandalizing of the Feroz Shah Kotla Grounds pitch in national capital Delhi in 1999.[55] The Sena orchestrated these activities in an atmosphere of growing tensions between the two nations.

If I was a betting man though Id be putting money on dissidents within the ISI having funded and co-ordinated this attack. The attack on a jewish center reeks of ISI egging people on.

[galacticsurfer]

Is it a 911 type attack which will transform and fire up Indian people and leadership or will it be just another terror attack forgotten in two weeks? They couldonly attack Pakistan or thier own Muslims. Perhaps Al Quaeda using Muslims of various nationalities, Brits, Pakistanis, Indians are to blame. Who would India attack then? The muslims are oppressed but this is ignored. They were oppressed lower castes who dropped out of Hinduism but that did not help much.

{abortion tangent split to Hall of Flames by Shannymara}

[Tanada]

Time will tell, the thing is it has taken the authorities over 48 hours to settle the issue, and that MIGHT cause a lot of pollitical trouble inside India. How the general populace reacts to the event being so streatched out will make a big difference in how the government reacts long term. If people shrug and move on it won't have an impact, if a large number of Hindu's write/call/protest the government then it will have an impact.

[Taghayee]

Pakistan is made by British and for British.

Oh, that's rubbish. Once the Raj was over, the Brits wanted nothing more than to pull the rip cord and leave India. But the Muslims espoused the Lahore Resolution -- in 1940, years before independence -- and refused to be a minority in a united India, and the British obliged them. The Brits of the day have a lot to answer for, but dividing India of their own volition isn't one of those things. That you can place squarely at the feet of the Muslims and the nationalist Hindus who hated them, and thus were all to happy to cut them loose.

Regarding the Lahore Resolution, you should look into the Round Table Conference of London 10 years prior to that.
Regarding the Hindu-Muslim nationalism- look into Minto-Morley reform of 1909 and separation of Bengal (1905) besides the mutiny of 1857 etc. The British had everything to do with flaming nationalistic feelings and chaos not only in south asia but most of the world.

Lastly, Pakistan was second to Israel in receiving USAid and still continues to be one of the major recipients of American Aid. The state has been nothing but trouble not only for India but for the entire region- including Central Asia, Iran, China, and Afghanistan while it has benefited the Americans immensely. Had it not been a British entity that wouldnt have been the case.

[3aidlillahi]

I'll repeat, when it's served back to them I'll have no sympathies for them. NONE!

So you're saying that if Hindus started to exact revenge using terrorism then you'd have no problem with that? Have you lost all sense of humanity? There is no justification for war against civilians. You're nothing but a hypocrite. You complain that some Muslims justify these attacks with spurious claims and then you justify similar attacks against innocent Muslims based on their religion. You're no better than the people that you criticize.

[Taghayee]

Bombay's top anti-terror officer killed

ISI Chief to visit India

[Plantagenet]

Some of the captured Islamist fundamentalist nuts in Mumbai are British

Brit Islamist fanatics are amoung captured killers in Mumbai

Hopefully the Indians are questioning them right now, to learn more about who organised their dastardly attack on the innocent people in Mumbai.

[idiom]

Is anyone else getting SingleMuslim.com ads on this thread?

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Is anyone else getting SingleMuslim.com ads on this thread?

Ha! I would not have noticed it if you hadn't pointed it out. Very flattering.

[wisconsin_cur]

WASHINGTON — American intelligence and counterterrorism officials said Friday that there was mounting evidence that a Pakistani militant group based in Kashmir, most likely Lashkar-e-Taiba, was responsible for this week’s deadly attacks in Mumbai.

NY Times

The Army of Muhammad is back. This was the message buzzing in radical Islamist circles yesterday as the world tried to absorb the shock of the terrorist attacks in Bombay, India's economic capital.
While it is not yet clear which group was behind the attacks, it looks as if the perpetrators were trying to imitate the tactic of ghazwa, used by the Prophet against Meccan caravans in his decade-long campaign to seize control of the city.
The tactic consists of surprise no-holds-barred attacks simultaneously launched against a caravan or settlement with the aim of demoralising the enemy and hastening his capitulation.
The Bombay attacks differed from previous terror operations in India in a number of ways. In the past, one approach had been to place explosive-packed devices in crowded places with the aim of killing large numbers at random. Another was suicide attacks on specific targets by lone "volunteers for martyrdom".
This time, however, the approach was "symphonic", in the sense that it involved different types of operations blended together.
Involved in the operations were men who had placed explosives at selected points. But there were also gunmen operating in classic military style by seizing control of territory at symbolically significant locations along with hostages. Then there were militants prepared to kill, and be killed, in grenade attacks against security forces.
Whoever designed the operations had another important Islamic tactic in mind: tabarra or exoneration.

Much more good information at this link

[wisconsin_cur]

MUMBAI, India — As Prasan Dhanur prepared his 13-foot boat on Wednesday evening for a hard night of fishing, he saw something strange.

A black inflatable lifeboat equipped with a brand new Yamaha outboard motor threaded its way among the small, wooden fishing boats at anchor and pulled up to the slum’s concrete pier.

Ten men, all apparently in their early 20s, jumped out. They stripped off orange windbreakers to reveal T-shirts and blue jeans. Then they began hoisting large, heavy backpacks out of the boat and onto their shoulders, each taking care to claim the pack assigned to him.

Mr. Dhanur flipped his boat light toward the men, and Kashinath Patil, a 72-year-old harbor official on duty nearby, asked the men what they were doing.

“I said: ‘Where are you going? What’s in your bags?’ “ Mr. Patil recalled. “They said: ‘We don’t want any attention. Don’t bother us.’ “

Thus began a crucial phase of one of the deadliest terrorist assaults in Indian history, one that seemed from the start to be coordinated meticulously to cause maximum fear and chaos.

The details are still fragmentary; Indian officials are saying little publicly. But from interviews with witnesses and survivors, it seems clear that the men on the boat were joining a larger terrorist force, which included some attackers who, unconfirmed local news reports say, had embedded themselves in Mumbai days before the attacks. Their synchronized assaults suggested a high level of training and preparation.

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