Newfie wrote:C8 wrote:One of the major problems with the US or Europe going green is that the same people who want to go green also want to open the nation's doors wide to immigrants- thus raising the overall population and total national energy use. As people move from low to high energy per-capita nations they will more than erase any efficiency gains made by those nations.
Some math everyone needs to memorize:
For every 1 American there are 25 people in the world, and about 20 of them live in very low energy use nations
If just 1 of those 20 people come to the US, the # of Americans doubles! (with similar results to US energy consumption)
The world's population will grow as much in the next 5 years as there are people in the US
When you look at the realities of world population growth and the dominance of the green movement by the woke "open borders" crowd, you realize that western energy consumption is only going to go up, up, up.
Yes. I oppose immigration on similar grounds, and a few others.
As soon as I say I’m against immigration I’m labeled a Trump loving Nazi. The knee jerk reaction is instantaneous.
I am an immigrant in the USA, but I agree that it is not in the best interest of humanity, in general, and Americans, in particular, to let any more people immigrate to the USA. I have been accused of being a hypocrite for having this opinion because I am an immigrant, but the fact that I am an immigrant doesn't change the facts. I have been told many times "So, now that you are already here, you don't want others to come", but that is not the point. I don't mind, though, because I don't give a fuck what others think about me. The same thing applies to most countries receiving immigrants. I think the Japanese are leading the way in this matter.
The global population is growing by more than 80 million a year (81 to 85 depending on your source), so it takes 4 years, not 5, for the world to add the equivalent of the US population, which is currently around 332 million. I think the USA should have drastically reduced both immigration and population growth decades ago, but better late than never.
https://www.worldometers.info/world-pop ... growthrate
https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... os/us.html