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THE Ghawar Thread (merged)

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Re: Ghawar past peak?

Unread postby elroy » Sun 12 Feb 2006, 19:04:35

know one knows for sure what is going on with production their?
Argh! That's first grade spelling! No one knows.. location = there. That line you typed is painful to read. :?
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Re: Ghawar past peak?

Unread postby seahorse » Sun 12 Feb 2006, 21:29:56

Someone asked what was the source for the 800,000 Saudi depletion figure used. If memory serves me correctly, I think this figure first appeared in an Oil and Gas Journal series on peak oil (2004), written in fact, by Naimi.
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Re: Ghawar past peak?

Unread postby PWALPOCO » Sun 12 Feb 2006, 21:42:49

Don't you mean 'Baghdad Bob'? The guy that kept lying about the positions of US forces? Chemical Ali was a different guy

In the UK at least, Baghdad Bob was referred to as "Comical Ali" , a play on words from "Chemical Ali" who you point out is a different guy. There was a suggestion here that the peak oil problems may be "hidden" at first by releasing reserve stocks.

Is there any obvious mechanism that has to be gone through in order to release oil , say from the SPR? Im just wondering if releases from the SPR for example can be hidden or if there has to be some kind of declaration or something that makes it hard to hide.
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News Timelines for Ghawar and Cantarell

Unread postby Bleep » Fri 17 Nov 2006, 20:13:42

Google News now has a timeline mode. Click the links to search on the names of the most productive oil field, Ghawar and second most, Cantarell: Ghawar News Timeline and Cantarell News Timeline
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Reason: Merged with THE Ghawar Thread.
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Re: News Timelines for Ghawar and Cantarell

Unread postby Zardoz » Sat 18 Nov 2006, 10:18:14


This is my favorite:

Saudi Arabia Can Raise Oil Output by 75% Through 2030, IEA Says

The Saudis will pump 18.2 million barrels a day by 2030, up from 10.4 million in 2004, the IEA said.


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That makes CERA look like a bunch of doom-and-gloom super-pessimists.
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Re: News Timelines for Ghawar and Cantarell

Unread postby shortonoil » Sat 18 Nov 2006, 11:07:01

The Saudis will pump 18.2 million barrels a day by 2030, up from 10.4 million in 2004, the IEA said.

This is the same year, 2030, that they will soon be projecting that vast herds of pigs will be flying around all major cities. Is this a case of rejecting all science, all past experience, and all known common sense to perpetuate an agenda? If so, and it appears to be, we have some very desperate people, in very high and powerful places. Beware a cornered wolf, he can surprise you!
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Re: News Timelines for Ghawar and Cantarell

Unread postby shakespear1 » Sat 18 Nov 2006, 11:24:38

GOOGLE is awesome :-) I created a Web Album using MSN which took forever to up load anything and then redid everything using PICASA in minutes !!!! Now this time line feature !!!!

WOW, these guys are dynamite :) :-D :) :-D
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Re: News Timelines for Ghawar and Cantarell

Unread postby morph » Sat 18 Nov 2006, 12:57:11

The Saudis will pump 18.2 million barrels a day by 2030, up from 10.4 million in 2004, the IEA said.

o really? considering that they might have already peaked
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Re: News Timelines for Ghawar and Cantarell

Unread postby newhunter-gatherer » Sat 18 Nov 2006, 13:16:57

[b]"One challenge for the Saudis in achieving this objective is that their existing fields sustain 5 percent-12 percent annual "decline rates,"

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/saudi.html

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Yep, google are right on the money arent they :wink:
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Re: News Timelines for Ghawar and Cantarell

Unread postby Bleep » Tue 21 Nov 2006, 15:09:17

Burgan field timeline
THE PERSIAN GULF STRIKES IT RICH Mon 3 Mar 1952
SIX KINGDOMS OF OIL
The Persian Gulf Strikes it Rich ON a lonely stretch of sandy, salt-encrusted coastline ranging from Oman to Iran, in lands so parched that clear drinking water is a luxury, the greatest treasure hunt of modern times goes on. Bordering the Persian Gulf, sometimes thousands of feet below the surface, lies the greatest pool of oil in the world. So far, 50 billion barrels of oil reserves, worth at least $100 billion, have been found—and this is only the beginning
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Re: News Timelines for Ghawar and Cantarell

Unread postby M_B_S » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 04:06:42

Cantarell oil field output to drop 14 percent a year


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When Mexico have a problem so the US have too :twisted:
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The status of Ghawar

Unread postby Newsseeker » Sun 08 Apr 2007, 09:26:54

Another one from Stuart, this time on the question that everyone has.
90% or so of 'Ain Dar/Shedgum's 2mbpd could water out over the course of a few years.
We are likely somewhere in the midst of that process.
That is likely the explanation for most of the Saudi production declines we have seen since June 2005 (including the failure of Haradh III and Qatif/Abu Safah to raise production)..

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This is almost too technical for me but I still understood most of it. Hopefully a technogeek can summarize it for us.
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Re: The status of Ghawar

Unread postby SD_Scott » Sun 08 Apr 2007, 12:54:57

I've visited that site every day since it first appeared. These recent discussions concerning Ghawar have been so impressive. That site is a real gem.
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Re: The status of Ghawar

Unread postby JPL » Sun 08 Apr 2007, 18:21:04

Newsseeker wrote:This is almost too technical for me but I still understood most of it. Hopefully a technogeek can summarize it for us.

To be honest, I found his earlier articles brilliant but this last one is a bit crap. His graphs are now coming from some fairly bizarre places and I also think his lack of Geology (in particular WRT permeability & flow rates) is starting to show.
Not that I could do any better - maybe time for some real experts (rocdoc?) to chip-in?
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Re: The status of Ghawar

Unread postby Newsseeker » Sun 08 Apr 2007, 19:59:47

pstarr wrote:Yes. The Oildrum is doing a magnificent job digging into this most important story. This is collaboration, journalism, and science at it best. Truth Porn can be as much fun as Doom Porn :)

Recently it seems that Truth Porn is beginning to mirror Doom porn :-D
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Re: The status of Ghawar

Unread postby SD_Scott » Mon 09 Apr 2007, 00:02:48

There's certainly a lot of intellectual self indulgence going on over there. Isn't that what killed jazz? Yes. But it never really died did it? Obviously ghawar is not the only drinkin hole in town, but it was big ole goodin, or a good ole biggin.
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Re: The status of Ghawar

Unread postby Cobra_Strike » Mon 09 Apr 2007, 02:33:48

TheOilDrum posts hurt my head at times, I will leave others to work through the nitty gritty...however I would like to know what they are talking about....other then a general idea.

Too many spaghetti graphs.
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Re: The status of Ghawar

Unread postby savethehumans » Mon 09 Apr 2007, 03:36:45

It ain't good news. THAT, I get! :( I just wish I could save their articles to disk--in printer-friendly format. Can't be done, though. Currently. (Hint, hint to any TOD honchos reading this.) Ghawar's peaked. World peak is upon us, or passed us. Happy spring, everyone!
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Re: The status of Ghawar

Unread postby TheDude » Mon 09 Apr 2007, 04:00:29

Matt Simmons praised the OD quite highly on Ask the Experts the other day.
savethehumans, Copy the text to a word processor like MS Word and then Paste Without Formatting, in MS you do that with Paste Special. It'll leave out all the pics and graphs. WordPad has a similiar feature, and of course there are lots of non Microsoft freeware programs out there.
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